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My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

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RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

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Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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Just now, sazrocks said:

What do you mean by "slaving"?

Using one pc to control another pc, and if I understand right, the power of both are combined into a machine more powerful than the sum of its parts, but in all honesty, I'm very new to this sort of thing, and don't completely understand the potential. 

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6 minutes ago, Ripper7620 said:

Using one pc to control another pc, and if I understand right, the power of both are combined into a machine more powerful than the sum of its parts, but in all honesty, I'm very new to this sort of thing, and don't completely understand the potential. 

There is no such thing... 

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1 minute ago, Ripper7620 said:

I've seen videos on doing this, however I don't completely understand how to do this. 

Do you mean clustering? 

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14 minutes ago, Abdul201588 said:

Do you mean clustering? 

He could very well mean Master/Slave which is a computing term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master/slave_(technology)

 

having a main PC(Master) for most things, but it using another computers(Slave) resources to handle rendering video or other tasks.

PATA IDE Harddrives actually had master/slave switches on them for stuff like this.

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3 minutes ago, Ripper7620 said:

Here's an example of what I'm talking about; 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/YDd6Mp

So you want to build a render server? What workloads are you dealing with?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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1 minute ago, Tsuki said:

He could very well mean Master/Slave which is a computing term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master/slave_(technology)

 

having a main PC(Master) for most things, but it using another computers(Slave) resources to handle rendering video or other tasks

That's pretty much what I have in mind, I just lack the understanding 

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3 minutes ago, Tsuki said:

PATA Harddrives actually had master/slave switches on them for stuff like this.

That was for determining which drive was first and which was second... Not really relevant to render servers.

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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4 minutes ago, Tsuki said:

He could very well mean Master/Slave which is a computing term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master/slave_(technology)

 

having a main PC(Master) for most things, but it using another computers(Slave) resources to handle rendering video or other tasks.

PATA Harddrives actually had master/slave switches on them for stuff like this.

Yes, absolutely 

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Just now, Ripper7620 said:

I'm just interested more in learning what is possible, and then finding a way to apply it later 

A lot is possible, we need to know what you have in mind in order to answer your question.

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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7 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

That was for determining which drive was first and which was second... Not really relevant to render servers.

true, the concept is basically the same though.  master still controlled the slave drives. it was because they were connected with the same cable, so it had to be determined which was the controller.

 

it was mostly just a more known reference to the term in computing. im betting most of our forum members have never seen an IDE drive...

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6 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

A lot is possible, we need to know what you have in mind in order to answer your question.

I guess an ideal situation would be controlling my home pc from a portable device, and being able to utilize the power of the pc for doing tasks when I'm away 

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1 minute ago, Ripper7620 said:

I guess an ideal situation would be controlling my home pc from a portable device, and being able to utilize the power of the pc for doing tasks when I'm away 

So you mean remote connection? Like google chrome remote desktop?

 

18 minutes ago, Ripper7620 said:

Here's an example of what I'm talking about; 

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/YDd6Mp

That's called distributed rendering and if you didn't know what that was previously then there is literally 0 reason for you to care about it.

This is not the same as using a desktop remotely.

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3 minutes ago, Ripper7620 said:

I guess an ideal situation would be controlling my home pc from a portable device

 Teamviewer, splashtop would work for that.

3 minutes ago, Ripper7620 said:

 and being able to utilize the power of the pc for doing tasks when I'm away 

What tasks?

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

So you mean remote connection? Like google chrome remote desktop?

 

That's called distributed rendering and if you didn't know what that was previously then there is literally 0 reason for you to care about it.

This is not the same as using a desktop remotely.

Thank you for clearing that up

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3 minutes ago, Ripper7620 said:

Thank you for clearing that up

Chrome remote desktop is the easy way of using your computer remotely.

Teamviewer is also a good option that a lot of people use but requires more setup and learning.

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Just now, Ripper7620 said:

I didn't have anything precisely specific in mind, but an example would be working on music arrangements 

Does that require a particularly large amount of computational power? I don't really see how it would.

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Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

Chrome remote desktop is the easy way of using your computer remotely.

Teamviewer is also a good option that a lot of people use but requires more setup and learning.

Thank you very much, I'm going to look into those and see what is possible. 

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