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So I just upgraded my motherboard and Cpu and Benchmarks are LOWER then my previous setup

 

Old setup

Asus Z97-A 

8 GB DDR3 ram

I5 4690K

Gigabyte GTX 1080 Extreme gaming edition

256GB Samsung 850 Pro OS drive

 

I got 8600 on time spy with this setup 

 

New setup

Asus Prime x370 Pro

16 GB DDR4 Ram 3000

1800x Ryzen 

Gigabyte GTX 1080 Extreme gaming edition

256GB Samsung 850 Pro OS drive

 

With this setup I got 7800 time spy

 

Latest CPU MB and GPU drivers. 

 

Also Unziping files is painfully slow also. ~20Mb a sec.

 

I didn't reinstall the OS for the new setup, I know it should be done but I dont think that would cause such a dramatic drop. 

 

 

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How about you post a link to both so we can see more than a general score. Literally says nothing.

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Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions.

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Just now, RandomGuy13 said:

I recommend reinstalling your OS, That is the only thing I can think of that might cause worse performance that you should get. 

Agreed reinstall OS, check to make sure all drivers are installed, and make sure your ram is actually running at 3000mhz.

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13 minutes ago, RandomGuy13 said:

I recommend reinstalling your OS, That is the only thing I can think of that might cause worse performance that you should get. 

 

11 minutes ago, Doomed83 said:

Agreed reinstall OS, check to make sure all drivers are installed, and make sure your ram is actually running at 3000mhz.

>not even sure what the problem is

>full nuclear -> OS reinstall

 

fucking wat? 

Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power!

Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.
Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions.

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3 minutes ago, Majestic said:

>full nuclear -> OS reinstall

Reinstalling OS is advised since he went from Haswell to Ryzen, full platform changes are nice to go new fresh install of the OS... regardless OP should have 1 thing in mind the i5 4690k and Ryzen 7 1800x have fairly similar single thread performance meaning you're likely not going to feel difference in gaming performance at all, with exceptions though obviously.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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26 minutes ago, Mock Taburnak said:

 

Well make sure your CPU isn't overheating

 

and ya reinstall windows, you can get windows 10 for free from microsoft using their media creation tool

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Reinstalling OS is advised since he went from Haswell to Ryzen, full platform changes are nice to go new fresh install of the OS... regardless OP should have 1 thing in mind the i5 4690k and Ryzen 7 1800x have fairly similar single thread performance meaning you're likely not going to feel difference in gaming performance at all, with exceptions though obviously.

You don't really need to do that anymore tbh. I've done it a couple of times between platforms and it worked fine.

Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power!

Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.
Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions.

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Just now, Majestic said:

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Single experiences are not the entire thing, not looking into an argue, OP has issues software side, reinstalling windows fixes it if he needs to, now if you have better troubleshooting steps you want to explain to OP that's all more welcome.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Single experiences are not the entire thing, not looking into an argue, OP has issues software side, reinstalling windows fixes it if he needs to, now if you have better troubleshooting steps you want to explain to OP that's all more welcome.

Yeah posting the results and actually looking at the results before reinstalling. Who knows how much he needs to backup and reinstall afterwards..

Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power!

Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.
Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions.

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I think I may have found an issue. I don't know if it's the reason for the benchmark score but my 850 pro is having very low iops about 44k w/r. seems it's a Samsung support for amd chipset thing. I haven't found a solution yet but it looks like there is one because others have posted proper ssd speeds with similar setups. 

 

I wanted to get a new m.2 drive anyway so since I saw the plextor m8pe on sale I jumped on a 512 for that. might as well do a new install since I'm upgrading the os drive. 

 

it will take a week to deliver so I'll redo the bench after all that. 

 

as for the Samsung drive. when windows 10 preview was released it took more then a year for Samsung to update their magician software to support it. the slackers probably know it's an issue but are just taking their time to support it until amd market share becomes relevant.

 

I'll post again in a week

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1 minute ago, Mock Taburnak said:

I got a 280 loop it's very cool

Are you watching temps with Ryzen Master or HWinfo? Just making sure you didn't leave the plastic on the bottom of it

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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So I got the new drive and did a complete windows install. Benchmark is still exactly the same 7800 on timespy basic. I couldnt find my timespy result from before with the I5 so I re-ran a firestrike benchmark (since the gpu is the same it shouldn't make a difference between dx11 and dx12). 

 

1800x score is 

Graphics Score
22 014
Physics Score
19 605
Combined Score
6 763
total 17697
 
4690k score is 
Graphics Score
21 265
Physics Score
8 318
Combined Score
8 231
Total Score 15278
 
So the CPU has had a positive effect on my system. 

 

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