GAMING PC WITHOUT GRAPHICS CARD

[CASDJ12345]

Hey guys, from the title you may or may not be wondering but can anyone build a pc with i7-8700k the reason I don't want a graphics card is because the prices are a bit too much and also because I have access to cloud gaming so I don't think it will be a big problem if I don't have a graphics card. but my budget is 1000-1500.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, CASDJ12345 said:

I have access to cloud gaming

Please god no

 

What you actually want to do is wait until the 12th I think it is, for the Ryzen APUs to drop, they'll be pretty alright at 1080p gaming, especially if you get one of the 75HZ IPS free-sync displays to go with it.

 

The $169 model is basically an R5 1400 + RX 550 assuming you have fast memory

are you interested in a completely silent PC or an ITX system? Do you already have a display?

[1234vietnam]

the person above me is correct but if you want to go with your original plan (don't) then here's a list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xw9gTH

[CASDJ12345]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Please god no

 

What you actually want to do is wait until the 12th I think it is, for the Ryzen APUs to drop, they'll be pretty alright at 1080p gaming, especially if you get one of the 75HZ IPS free-sync displays to go with it.

 

The $169 model is basically an R5 1400 + RX 550 assuming you have fast memory

are you interested in a completely silent PC or an ITX system? Do you already have a display?

I will invest in a better monitor later i have a decent one for now. and how does this compare to intel 

 

[Streetguru]

Just now, CASDJ12345 said:

I will invest in a better monitor later i have a decent one for now. and how does this compare to intel 

 

Ryzen does about 100fps on average in AAA games, Coffee Lake will do 120fps

 

But here's ryzen scaling to get a feel where the R5 1400 will end up whenever you put a high end GPU into the system

 

Gaming on the APU will be better should you get that free-sync display, they're only like $150 USD, are you in the US? What kind of system did you want?
 

 

[CASDJ12345]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Ryzen does about 100fps on average in AAA games, Coffee Lake will do 120fps

 

But here's ryzen scaling to get a feel where the R5 1400 will end up whenever you put a high end GPU into the system

 

Gaming on the APU will be better should you get that free-sync display, they're only like $150 USD, are you in the US? What kind of system did you want?
 

 

Yes, I am in the US, basically for gaming but maybe in future a bit of editing for youtube 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, CASDJ12345 said:

Yes, I am in the US, basically for gaming but maybe in future a bit of editing for youtube 

Then you should probably get on AM4 so you have the option of upgrading to an 8 core R7 2600 Ryzen 2 later on, though X470 motherboards are coming as well

But what kind of system? just a standard best performance per dollar? Or something more specific?

[A1Mike_W]

10 minutes ago, CASDJ12345 said:

the reason I don't want a graphics card is because the prices are a bit too much

Save your money for now and buy later when prices drop. Doesn't sound like you NEED a high-end graphics card if you're asking whether you can get away with integrated graphics. I would absolutely recommend to wait for better price to performance ratio on your next purchase (which would include going for say an i5 8400 over the i7 8700k as gaming performance is almost identical and not far off in editing). If you need a slight boost over an iGPU, you can find cards in the sub $100 range that will offer far better performance (though almost anything is better than an iGPU).

Plenty of games you can run on an iGPU though, you might just have to go a bit retro. Newer stuff like Rimworld, Cuphead, Minecraft, etc. would work, you'd just have to dig around.

[CASDJ12345]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Then you should probably get on AM4 so you have the option of upgrading to an 8 core R7 2600 Ryzen 2 later on, though X470 motherboards are coming as well

But what kind of system? just a standard best performance per dollar? Or something more specific?

performance is my main thing also this if for like competitive gaming 

[CASDJ12345]

1 minute ago, A1Mike_W said:

Save your money for now and buy later when prices drop. Doesn't sound like you NEED a high-end graphics card if you're asking whether you can get away with integrated graphics. I would absolutely recommend to wait for better price to performance ratio on your next purchase (which would include going for say an i5 8400 over the i7 8700k as gaming performance is almost identical and not far off in editing). If you need a slight boost over an iGPU, you can find cards in the sub $100 range that will offer far better performance (though almost anything is better than an iGPU).

Plenty of games you can run on an iGPU though, you might just have to go a bit retro. Newer stuff like Rimworld, Cuphead, Minecraft, etc. would work, you'd just have to dig around.

i will need a graphics card in the my long run

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, CASDJ12345 said:

performance is my main thing 

Then something like that, RAM pricing sucks, and the power supply is overkill, you could get cheaper stuff overall

 

included the free-sync display for reference, that one is free-sync over HDMI I'm pretty sure

Replace the R5 1500X with whatever APU you end up with

 

BUT THE OLD MOTHERBOARD WILL NEED A BIOS FLASH TO USE THE NEW APUS

 

So maybe make sure you wait for Revision motherboards that ship with the new BIOS

So basically don't buy anything yet, maybe X470 launches with the APUs too
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNX8Fd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNX8Fd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($172.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.55 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59HT-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($149.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $806.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-01 23:53 EST-0500

 

[A1Mike_W]

1 minute ago, CASDJ12345 said:

i will need a graphics card in the my long run

Like I said, wait around until prices are better unless you absolutely need it right now.

[CASDJ12345]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Then something like that, RAM pricing sucks, and the power supply is overkill, you could get cheaper stuff overall

 

included the free-sync display for reference, that one is free-sync over HDMI I'm pretty sure

Replace the R5 1500X with whatever APU you end up with

 

BUT THE OLD MOTHERBOARD WILL NEED A BIOS FLASH TO USE THE NEW APUS

 

So maybe make sure you wait for Revision motherboards that ship with the new BIOS

So basically don't buy anything yet, maybe X470 launches with the APUs too
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNX8Fd
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNX8Fd/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($169.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($172.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.55 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59HT-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($149.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $806.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-01 23:53 EST-0500

 

i may invest a bit more in the ram may be 3600 corsair has it for 230

 

[CASDJ12345]

1 minute ago, A1Mike_W said:

Like I said, wait around until prices are better unless you absolutely need it right now.

not right now right now but i am watching the prices so when they drop i can buy it so i just need a build i can work with

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, CASDJ12345 said:

i may invest a bit more in the ram may be 3600 corsair has it for 230

 

Most likely isn't worth going too far past 3000mhz, overclocking the GPU with 3200mhz is already pretty good

Also X470 might bring better memory support overall. We'll have to see whenever reviews are out

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, CASDJ12345 said:

how does this compare to intel