Old Processor Choosing Help!

[MultiMigo]

Good deals have come up in my country. The GPU of my choice is the GTX 1060 6GB. This system will be for gaming and video editing

 

Im choosing between a Xeon E5 4640 (8C,16T) 2.4 - 2.8GHz for around $150 and that includes an LGA2011 motherboard (Bundle)

 

And with that price of ($150) already converted to dollars. I can also get an i7 2600 with a motherboard with that price.

 

Which deal is the best? Thanks!

[Jurrunio]

Can you actually afford the graphics card though? Find that first.

 

The higher single core performance of the i7 is preferred for games. Only use the Xeon if you plan on building a workstation.

[MultiMigo]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Can you actually afford the graphics card though? Find that first.

 

The higher single core performance of the i7 is preferred for games. Only use the Xeon if you plan on building a workstation.

Yes. I can afford the 1060. I mainly do video editing (short films, travel films, content creation, and indie films) My second thing is gaming which I plan to do also (YouTube) How many frames is the difference from the i7 2600? It has a higher clock speed. Around 1GHz difference from the Xeon, but more cores benefit in editing. I dont mind dropping a few frames in gaming, is the Xeon the better choice?

[Guest]

Get the i7 sandy bridge! It will perform better than the xeon. I'd recommed getting the "K" version though, overclocking will let the chip unleash all of it's performance.

[MultiMigo]

2 minutes ago, Konrad Kwasniewski said:

Get the i7 sandy bridge! It will perform better than the xeon. I'd recommed getting the "K" version though, overclocking will let the chip unleash all of it's performance.

Even in video editing? Does the higher clock speed equal more cores from the Xeon? Hmmm. Let's say I focus on video editing first and gaming second. Should I still go for the i7?

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, MultiMigo said:

Yes. I can afford the 1060. I mainly do video editing (short films, travel films, content creation, and indie films) My second thing is gaming which I plan to do also (YouTube) How many frames is the difference from the i7 2600? It has a higher clock speed. Around 1GHz difference from the Xeon, but more cores benefit in editing. I dont mind dropping a few frames in gaming, is the Xeon the better choice?

This Xeon's gaming performance is about on par with the i5-760, slightly worse than the i5-2400 many budget gamer has. It can game, but only the less demanding ones.

 

As for the i7, assuming that the mobo doesnt support overclocking, it's gaming performance is about the same as Haswell i5s, which makes it 20-30% faster (in CPU-bound games). In workstation use it sure is slower, but not that bad since it is still faster than the much younger i5-7600 thanks to hyperthreading in that regard.

[Damascus]

Xeon m8.  Though I'd try and get one of the 16xx cpus instead for a 6 core that can overclock.

 

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, MultiMigo said:

Even in video editing? Does the higher clock speed equal more cores from the Xeon? Hmmm. Let's say I focus on video editing first and gaming second. Should I still go for the i7?

The higher clock speeds are going to roughly equal in multi core (with a slight lead for the xeon) and it will stomp all over the xeon in single core.

[MultiMigo]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

This Xeon's gaming performance is about on par with the i5-760, slightly worse than the i5-2400 many budget gamer has. It can game, but only the less demanding ones.

 

As for the i7, assuming that the mobo doesnt support overclocking, it's gaming performance is about the same as Haswell i5s, which makes it 20-30% faster (in CPU-bound games). In workstation use it sure is slower, but not that bad since it is still faster than the much younger i5-7600 thanks to hyperthreading in that regard.

Oh okay thanks! So it makes more sense to get the i7 2600, since in gaming performance, it equals the 4th gen i5s and in editing use, it's much faster.

[MultiMigo]

4 minutes ago, Konrad Kwasniewski said:

The higher clock speeds are going to roughly equal in multi core (with a slight lead for the xeon) and it will stomp all over the xeon in single core.

Thank you! Makes much more sense to get the i7

[JoostinOnline]

12 minutes ago, MultiMigo said:

Yes. I can afford the 1060.

What are you paying for it though?  Prices have skyrocketed in most places for that model, so it may not be the best choice.

 

Also, what kind of dollar?  People forget that lots of different countries use the dollar, all with different values.

[MultiMigo]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

What are you paying for it though?  Prices have skyrocketed in most places for that model, so it may not be the best choice.

 

Also, what kind of dollar?  People forget that lots of different countries use the dollar, all with different values.

In my country, The Philippines, the GTX 1060 is priced at retail ($250) US dollars, which is 15000 pesos. 

[Guest]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

What are you paying for it though?  Prices have skyrocketed in most places for that model, so it may not be the best choice.

 

Also, what kind of dollar?  People forget that lots of different countries use the dollar, all with different values.

Well, at least in europe there wasn't much of a price change at all. It is very region dependent.

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, MultiMigo said:

In my country, The Philippines, the GTX 1060 is priced at retail ($250) US dollars, which is 15000 pesos. 

That's a good buy then.  In the US, most models are around $400.

[MultiMigo]

Oh and one last thing, is there a big of a difference in video editing? Between the i7 2600 and Xeon E5 4640? Jurrunio said that the Xeon only performs the same with a 1st gen i5 and the i7 2600 performs as a 4th gen i5.

[MultiMigo]

Well in gaming. The Xeon performs as a 1st gen i5 and the i7 performs as a 4th gen i5

[agent_x007]

Problem with E5 26x0 series is OC lock and slow clock speeds on lower end models.
If you want Xeon, think about getting Xeon E5 16xx [v1/v2] series (I'm assuming LGA 2011 with DDR3 ?).
They are Xeon equall of Core i7 3xx0/4xx0 for that platform, and have unlocked OC.
If you hell bend on 8 Cores tho, there is always E5 2670...

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, MultiMigo said:

Oh and one last thing, is there a big of a difference in video editing? Between the i7 2600 and Xeon E5 4640? Jurrunio said that the Xeon only performs the same with a 1st gen i5 and the i7 2600 performs as a 4th gen i5.

Well xeon's cores are not going to help that much in premiere, so not really.

[MultiMigo]

1 minute ago, Konrad Kwasniewski said:

Well xeon's cores are not going to help that much in premiere, so not really.

Okay! Thanks guys for the fast answers! Will get the i7 2600. If I can get the K version, i'll also try and have extra performance overclocking it.

[Damascus]

3 minutes ago, Konrad Kwasniewski said:

Well xeon's cores are not going to help that much in premiere, so not really.

The cores will give plenty of performance, not that different from a mainstream cpu.  The clocks will be an issue.

[Damascus]

An x79 board with a 1650 v2 will have the same IPC as a 2600, the ability to overclock AND 6c/12t.

 

It will be better in every conceivable way in other words

[Ashleyyyy]

46 minutes ago, Konrad Kwasniewski said:

Get the i7 sandy bridge! It will perform better than the xeon. I'd recommed getting the "K" version though, overclocking will let the chip unleash all of it's performance.

sandy bridge overclocks like a beast. i've heard many stories of close or equal performance of 4th gen 4770 non-K

[SupaKomputa]

11 hours ago, MultiMigo said:

Oh and one last thing, is there a big of a difference in video editing? Between the i7 2600 and Xeon E5 4640? Jurrunio said that the Xeon only performs the same with a 1st gen i5 and the i7 2600 performs as a 4th gen i5.

I'm pro xeon, more core count the better for video editing and other multitasking.

Since you will have 1060, use mercury engine (cuda) and the programs will rely more on your GPU not CPU.

For $150 is a very good deal, plus you can buy very cheap ECC memory (registered).

Used ECC memory is only half the price (even more) of regular DDR3 for its abundance.

You can get 8gb registered ecc memory for as low as $25!

On top of that x79 supports Quad Channel, if thats important to you.

[iskander87]

18 hours ago, MultiMigo said:

Even in video editing? Does the higher clock speed equal more cores from the Xeon? Hmmm. Let's say I focus on video editing first and gaming second. Should I still go for the i7?

yeah man, for 3d rendering it would be another story... but for editing and especially for gaming I guess the 2600 is a tad better