My Project "The Dragon" With AMD FX 8300.

[GHz1]

So I started this project like a year ago. I've been using an AMD processor for some time now, I really got sick of Intel using those high prices, I was a really huge Intel fanatic, And I used Intel processors my whole life, never used AMD, I even remember when I was a kid, we argued which one is the better, Intel or AMD. Oh those were the times..  And Ive had Intel's Pentium 3,4 and C2D (Core 2 Duo) and Core 2 Quad, And latest Intel I had was i3, and after that i switched to AMD.  Anyway, I saw this processor, AMD FX 6300, Price was really low, it think it was something around 90-100€ back then, (€uros because I live in Finland) Aaaand that's how i started with AMD, I've been really happy about it too.. Overclocking possibilities are just awesome.. just epic! 

 

So this is my RIG. 

Case: Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass Edition (I modifed it a littlebit.) EDIT: This has been changed to Fractal Desing Meshify C.

PSU: Corsair 500W Builder Series EDIT: Changed to Be quiet Pure Power 600W

Motherboard: MSI 970A Krait Edition (I typed it wrong earlier, i typed Kraken LOL )

 

Processor: AMD FX 8300 3.3GHz @ OC 4.2GHz Stable AF! lol (OVERCLOCK is now 4.4GHz! )

It stays pretty well stable at 4.2GHz, sure there was some changes to be made in voltages etc, but it is very stable. I have air cooling so this is the absolute maxium I dare to overclock without liquid cooling.

Processor Cooler: Raijintek Leto. Changed to ID COOLING AIO 240 liquid cooler.

 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Limited Edition 1333MHz (2x4GB) & Kingston HyperX 1333MHz Fury (2x4GB) Overclocked to 1866MHz

 

Graphics: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 8GB

 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1Tb 7200 rpm & PNY 240GB SSD

 

For displays/monitors I use Philips 278E8QJAB curved 27" monitor and 65" Philips ambilight 4K TV. Both FullHD and 4K resolutions work out pretty well. Both are used gaming With High or Max settings tho I dont like to use, motion blur, bloom, film grain or any of those kind of effects. I use only max 2 or 4x af, or aa And never go higher than that. With both I can get +50fps and almost never goes below that. With FullHD it doesnt go below 60 fps.

 

 

OH! And the HEAT, So with FullHD, the temperature is about 40 degrees celsius when gaming. Temperature is measured from the heatsink of the processor cooler. At 4K it's around 50 celsius. I think it's overall pretty good. Idle temperatures are around 26-34 celsius. 

 

Any questions and comments are welcome!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nena Trinity]

Nice! :3

[GHz1]

1 minute ago, Nena360 said:

Nice! :3

Oh, thank you! :3 

[Klemmbrett]

On 16.1.2018 at 11:13 AM, GHz1 said:

AMD FX 8300 3.3GHz @ OC 4.2GHz Stable AF! lol 

 

On 16.1.2018 at 11:13 AM, GHz1 said:

OH! And the HEAT, So with FullHD, the temperature is about 40 degrees celsius when gaming. Temperature is measured from the heatsink of the processor cooler. At 4K it's around 50 celsius. I think it's overall pretty good. Idle temperatures are around 26-34 celsius. 

 

 At what voltage ? And how is the temp measured  is it really like i think from what i read the heat sink temp? The reason im asking is that when idle is up to 34 full load cant be 40 C I also know one guy who had  this processor  and thought temps and everything else where fine until he killed his motherboard first and then 2nd motherboard + processor. 

[Klemmbrett]

On 16.1.2018 at 11:13 AM, GHz1 said:

With both I can get +50fps and almost never goes below that. With FullHD it doesnt go below 60 fps.

50 + fps at 4K with high to max setting ignoring some effects like motion blur ok but in what games ? I dont want to bash AMD or the RX 580 in any way but this is certainly not a 4K card for modern titles 1080p and 1440p should be no problem even for some years at 1080p  ignoring horrible optimized games like ARK for example where even my 1080 TI struggles with stable 60 fps@1440p with epic settings (that means just every option maxed out including every effect there is and max render distance) while running at 2050 Mhz all day long. 

[GHz1]

On 17.1.2018 at 6:43 PM, Klemmbrett said:

 

 At what voltage ? And how is the temp measured  is it really like i think from what i read the heat sink temp? The reason im asking is that when idle is up to 34 full load cant be 40 C I also know one guy who had  this processor  and thought temps and everything else where fine until he killed his motherboard first and then 2nd motherboard + processor. 

I think here is everything you need to know about voltages and heat. I don't know about your friend but im not about to destroy my mb or processor.. The sensor of the heatmonitor is between the thin metal plates which makes the processor cooler, sensor and 2 of the thin metal plates make a kinda of "monitor sandwich" lol  it barely makes it in there, so the monitor makes a pretty realistic tamperature overall from the inside, it's not realistic heat signal FROM the PROCESSOR, but overall, it's good way to measure, so i can adjust the fans manually.

[GHz1]

On 17.1.2018 at 6:58 PM, Klemmbrett said:

50 + fps at 4K with high to max setting ignoring some effects like motion blur ok but in what games ? I dont want to bash AMD or the RX 580 in any way but this is certainly not a 4K card for modern titles 1080p and 1440p should be no problem even for some years at 1080p  ignoring horrible optimized games like ARK for example where even my 1080 TI struggles with stable 60 fps@1440p with epic settings (that means just every option maxed out including every effect there is and max render distance) while running at 2050 Mhz all day long. 

I know it's not 4K card. Im Very aware about that. But I dont use Highest settings. I told that I use "High/Ultra" and the balance is somewhere in there.. I dont use almost any eyecandy. Shadows are always Medium or high, No V-Sync, (Who needs it, am i right? lol )

But I dont know anything about your problem, maybe your hardware is having a hard time because of somekind of bottleneck and v-sync.

 

I've only tested so far

Forza Horizon 3

Resident Evil 7 (No problem at FullHD, but 4K strugles between 45-55)

Forza Motorsport 7

Fallout 4

Skyrim Special Edition

Counter Strike GO

[Klemmbrett]

4 hours ago, GHz1 said:

But I dont know anything about your problem, maybe your hardware is having a hard time because of somekind of bottleneck and v-sync.

Nah there is no bottleneck just a bad optimized game CPU load is 60-70 % in that game GPU 100% in other AAA game with max settings + every eye candy it maintains 60 fps all day long with v sync and 1200-1400 MHZ or 140+ fps in games like PUBG or 400 in cs go.  

[GHz1]

5 minutes ago, Klemmbrett said:

Nah there is no bottleneck just a bad optimized game CPU load is 60-70 % in that game GPU 100% in other AAA game with max settings + every eye candy it maintains 60 fps all day long with v sync and 1200-1400 MHZ or 140+ fps in games like PUBG or 400 in cs go.  

60-70%? That's really high cpu load when gaming? Even if it's badly optimized. Games arent really that taxing on cpu.

[Klemmbrett]

3 minutes ago, GHz1 said:

60-70%? That's really high cpu load when gaming? Even if it's badly optimized. Games arent really that taxing on cpu.

Uhm what ? its a 4c/4t cpu so im pretty satisfied and even in games where i dont use V-sync 100% load is nothing bad if you have good cooling it stays under 60 c  And games are very different when it comes to CPU load. 

 

5 hours ago, GHz1 said:

I think here is everything you need to know about voltages and heat. I don't know about your friend but im not about to destroy my mb or processor.. The sensor of the heatmonitor is between the thin metal plates which makes the processor cooler, sensor and 2 of the thin metal plates make a kinda of "monitor sandwich" lol  it barely makes it in there, so the monitor makes a pretty realistic tamperature overall from the inside, it's not realistic heat signal FROM the PROCESSOR, but overall, it's good way to measure, so i can adjust the fans manually.

 Your talking about the heat sink fins ? in this case no its not  the heat is transferred from the heat spreader to the heat pipes(cooper) from there its spread throughout the fins(aluminum) these fins increase the surface area. The individual fins don´t get near as hot as your CPU and that´s the temp you should focus.  Im interested in the temps which are showing in your pic when idle as 22 c  but under full load after 15 min of prime 95 or aida64 or intense gaming. 

[GHz1]

2 minutes ago, Klemmbrett said:

Uhm what ? its a 4c/4t cpu so im pretty satisfied and even in games where i dont use V-sync 100% load is nothing bad if you have good cooling it stays under 60 c  And games are very different when it comes to CPU load. 

 

 Your talking about the heat sink fins ? in this case no its not  the heat is transferred from the heat spreader to the heat pipes(cooper) from there its spread throughout the fins(aluminum) these fins increase the surface area. The individual fins don´t get near as hot as your CPU and that´s the temp you should focus.  Im interested in the temps which are showing in your pic when idle as 22 c  but under full load after 15 min of prime 95 or aida64 or intense gaming. 

I know, that's why it's good to measure the overall temperature of the case, from the heatsinks, not the temperature of cpu. I know the cpu is hotter than the heatsink.

[Klemmbrett]

2 minutes ago, GHz1 said:

I know, that's why it's good to measure the overall temperature of the case, from the heatsinks, not the temperature of cpu. I know the cpu is hotter than the heatsink.

And how hot are these temps then ? About usage you got a 8c/8t CPU as most games only utilize 4 threads you wont see usage over 50 % with your processor while 4 of your individual cores might be 100% all time. The problem is that 4 threads have become standard in the past 7 years as it is what 90% of the people have in their systems and Intel as market leader haven`t had any competition from AMD for so long that they don´t saw any reason to go higher with the core count on the mainstream platform when they could sell you a 6/8/10 core for double or more the price on x99 platform for example. The AM3 / AM3+ platform was not enough to force them and Ryzen(AM4) did what everybody hoped for they finally got into spitting distance of Intel so intel released 6 core and soon 8 cores on mainstream platform. So in the future we might see more than the ones now i can count with one hand that use more than the before mentioned 4 cores and 4 threads.   

[GHz1]

18 hours ago, Klemmbrett said:

And how hot are these temps then ? About usage you got a 8c/8t CPU as most games only utilize 4 threads you wont see usage over 50 % with your processor while 4 of your individual cores might be 100% all time. The problem is that 4 threads have become standard in the past 7 years as it is what 90% of the people have in their systems and Intel as market leader haven`t had any competition from AMD for so long that they don´t saw any reason to go higher with the core count on the mainstream platform when they could sell you a 6/8/10 core for double or more the price on x99 platform for example. The AM3 / AM3+ platform was not enough to force them and Ryzen(AM4) did what everybody hoped for they finally got into spitting distance of Intel so intel released 6 core and soon 8 cores on mainstream platform. So in the future we might see more than the ones now i can count with one hand that use more than the before mentioned 4 cores and 4 threads.   

I don't have any solid answer to that, I will find out about the usage as soon as I have some time to play some games, and about the temps too.

[GHz1]

So, I have made the conclusion that the memory sticks wont necessarily manage the overclock of 1333MHz to 1866MHz. The computer has started to freeze in a weird situations like just browsing the web. When the sticks was at 1600MHz and processor at 4.2GHz there was no problems at all. So I think its just the sticks, but not completely sure about it. I have to some more research.

[GHz1]

So, a little update to the system, first, I have changed the case, from Phanteks P400S to Fractal Design Meshify C, It has lot better air intake than the Phanteks had.

I have also changed the cpu cooler from Raijintek Leto to 240 AIO liquid cooler from ID Cooling, needless to say, it has rgb like the rest of the setup, except motherboard. So it's all controlled by controller. I think my next setup will be compact mini-itx. 

 

 

[Santo22]

Nice build. One thing I would suggest if you haven't yet is download HWInfo64. I have a similar build with an 8350 at 4.8ghz and a Kraken x62.2. I was using HWMonitor for awhile before finding HWInfo64. What you'll find with HWInfo64 is an actual TRUE Cpu temperature reading. HWM always showed around 20c idle and 50c at load. In HWI64 the actual temp is 32-35c idle and 65-70c under load. It's a much more accurate reading and will help you monitor and make sure nothing goes up in flames. 

[GHz1]

22 hours ago, Santo22 said:

Nice build. One thing I would suggest if you haven't yet is download HWInfo64. I have a similar build with an 8350 at 4.8ghz and a Kraken x62.2. I was using HWMonitor for awhile before finding HWInfo64. What you'll find with HWInfo64 is an actual TRUE Cpu temperature reading. HWM always showed around 20c idle and 50c at load. In HWI64 the actual temp is 32-35c idle and 65-70c under load. It's a much more accurate reading and will help you monitor and make sure nothing goes up in flames. 

 

Thanks bro! I will try it!