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Hello, I've never built a PC before and was never really into PC gaming, but I'm hoping to build my own this spring/summer. Anyway with the launch of the new R3 2200G and the R5 2400G is coming in February and I have a few questions. I was planning on getting a Ryzen 3 1200 for $109, but the new R3 2200G is shown to out perform the R3 1200 (according to AMD) at only $99 USD. Also having the better graphics (I wasn't planning on using the integrated graphics, but I guess it would be nice to have), wouldn't that just be the obvious choice?

 

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AFAIK Ryzen APUs will use the first gen Zen cores whereas the the new CPUs coming out on April will use the better Zen+ cores. I can't think of any uses of the iGPU if you're going to get a discrete graphics card anyways save for testing.

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You get slightly less cache but yeah, I think for the most part it looks like a better deal.

 

Ryzen 2 is coming in April most likely with 10% or so higher clock speeds, so once it's out then that's when it'll make more sense.

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Just now, DocSwag said:

You get slightly less cache but yeah, I think for the most part it looks like a better deal.

 

Ryzen 2 is coming in April most likely with 10% or so higher clock speeds, so once it's out then that's when it'll make more sense.

The discrete graphics should be equivalent to at least a 1050 so for budget builds in 1080p go for it

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you will get much better performance in 1080p gaming  with something like a Pentium G4560 + GTX 1050

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3 minutes ago, mok said:

you will get much better performance in 1080p gaming  with something like a Pentium G4560 + GTX 1050

At double the cost..

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30 minutes ago, Blancaster said:

Hello, I've never built a PC before and was never really into PC gaming, but I'm hoping to build my own this spring/summer. Anyway with the launch of the new R3 2200G and the R5 2400G is coming in February and I have a few questions. I was planning on getting a Ryzen 3 1200 for $109, but the new R3 2200G is shown to out perform the R3 1200 (according to AMD) at only $99 USD. Also having the better graphics (I wasn't planning on using the integrated graphics, but I guess it would be nice to have), wouldn't that just be the obvious choice?

 

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If you can wait I say its worth it. If it doesn't pan out the Ryzen 1200 should drop price, or your going to be getting something better for less.

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30 minutes ago, mok said:

you will get much better performance in 1080p gaming  with something like a Pentium G4560 + GTX 1050

That has a 2 core CPU with mediocre upgrade space and it costs more. 

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2 minutes ago, jtmoseley said:

The discrete graphics should be equivalent to at least a 1050 so for budget builds in 1080p go for it

IGPU would at best be as good as the best sub $100 gpu, like 1030. Which is good enough, if not the best igpu ever offered. 1050 is twice 1030.

 

11 minutes ago, bleedblue said:

AFAIK Ryzen APUs will use the first gen Zen cores whereas the the new CPUs coming out on April will use the better Zen+ cores. I can't think of any uses of the iGPU if you're going to get a discrete graphics card anyways save for testing.

slightly better like sandy bridge to ivy bridge. Lower temp, higher clock, but the core is still the same. April is 3 months away, who can wait that long. :D 

 

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you will get much better performance in 1080p gaming  with something like a Pentium G4560 + GTX 1050

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Well I'm going to wait until at least April anyway to start buying parts. So I think I'll be choosing from R3 1st and 2nd gen or the R3 2200G. I'll just have to see what my budget is when I get there.

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15 hours ago, jtmoseley said:

The discrete graphics should be equivalent to at least a 1050 so for budget builds in 1080p go for it

Eh I doubt it'd be that powerful. The 560 with GDDR5 and 1024 SPs matches up to a 1050; the 2200g's GPU only has 512 SPs and will have to use slower DDR4, so it'll be quite a bit slower for sure. I think it should match up to a GT 1030 though with decently fast RAM and when OCed

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