ECC as "cheap" as normal Ram

[Viciously]

Is this realy true? or am i missing something?

 

A 8gb DDR4 2400 DIMM of ECC costs about 99$ (in Europe 80€ on amazon)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242286&cm_re=kingston_ecc_8gb-_-20-242-286-_-Product

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01AW2L8TM?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&linkCode=df0&creative=22502&creativeASIN=B01AW2L8TM&childASIN=B01AW2L8TM&tag=geizhalspre03-21

 

and a "normal" unbuffered 8gb DDR4 2400 DIMM is about 93$

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104679&cm_re=kingston_8gb_ddr4-_-20-104-679-_-Product

 

yeah it comes with a passive cooler and is a few bucks more

but if you look at european prices, a compareble DIMM will cost you 87€

https://www.amazon.de/Crucial-DDR4-2400-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B019FRED60/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1515155455&sr=1-1&keywords=ddr4+8gb+2400

 

I guess it comes down to "normal" RAM beeing expesive as hell butt ECC beeing cheaper then normal RAM kinda confuses me... Any remarks?

[NelizMastr]

Probably because there is more ECC RAM available on the market, so less of a shortage. The main reason consumer DDR4 DIMMs are expensive has to do with supply and demand. There is a lot of demand for consumer stuff and not a terribly big supply.

 

Also, DDR4 8GB ECC RDIMMs are the lowest capacity DDR4 DIMMs still in use in servers, so there is a chance they want to clear the stock out in favor of 16GB modules.

[Oshino Shinobu]

One is in the value series, other is in the "high end" series (not that it really makes a difference, it's just a cooler for looks and black PCB). ECC module is CL17, non-ECC is CL15

 

EDIT: Also, the shortage that caused RAM prices to increase is flash NAND, so it affects both ECC and non-ECC. 

[mariushm]

30 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

One is in the value series, other is in the "high end" series (not that it really makes a difference, it's just a cooler for looks and black PCB). ECC module is CL17, non-ECC is CL15

 

EDIT: Also, the shortage that caused RAM prices to increase is flash NAND, so it affects both ECC and non-ECC. 

Flash NAND is made with a different process than ram, factories have to reconfigure their lines to make nand instead of ram most of the time, can't switch easily between regular ddr4 and nand.

So no, can't really argue both ecc and non-ecc are affected in the same way by the nand shortage.

Factories and stores can have excessive stock of ready made ecc ram sticks and no demand, so the price will go down.. while regular desktop memory uses higher end memory chips and factory overclocked chips which may also be favored by companies like apple and samsung to use in phones (like low power ddr4 chips)

 

The ECC memory sticks are usually 2400 Mhz or 2666 Mhz and high latency (jedec standards) so whatever doesn't pass the tests for higher end DDR4 2800 / 3000 / 3200 Mhz sticks for desktops may be used in these ECC memory sticks.

 

[Viciously]

so bottom line:

no problem in buying the Kingston ECC Dim for a freeNAS build?