8700k upgrade

[Bush Badger]

So currently my PC spec is as follows

4790k OC 4.6ghz

z97m plus

Corsair vengence 16gb

1080ti

 

New upgrade

8700k

Aorus gaming 7

TridentZ RGB 16gb

 

How much of an FPS increase am I going to get? Some how my currently build is struggling to maintain 144hz on 1080p  and 1440p. I am starting to think CPU is bottlenecking and that the ram and mobo is also not up to par. When I do upgrade to the new combo the FPS increase will be significant right?

 

P.S I am running on medium to high setting on 1080 / 1440p.

[BryceJonathan]

Honestly it is going to depend on what games you are playing. Games like GTAV that are really cpu dependent you should get a significant upgrade but in most games the increase is going to be negligible as the 4790k is still a fantastic processor for modern games. Dont expect much is all I am going to say.

[Bush Badger]

18 minutes ago, BryceJonathan said:

Honestly it is going to depend on what games you are playing. Games like GTAV that are really cpu dependent you should get a significant upgrade but in most games the increase is going to be negligible as the 4790k is still a fantastic processor for modern games. Dont expect much is all I am going to say.

well to be honest even 10 FPS means the world to me. All I am chasing is the stable 144hz, because yeah when the game is quiet and no action it stays at 144 but as soon as something happens it might drop to 130 - 120 hell even 90. Surprisingly the mouse input will feel laggy even with a 10 FPS decrease so I am willing to pay a premium for it. My last resort is another 1080ti. But I am definitely going to see a 10+ fps increase right? Preferably I wana see 30 - 40 plus

 

Games I play right now are

Killing Floor 2

PUBG

Overwatch

[Ordinarily_Greater]

depends on what games you are gonna play, yes i7-8700K is overkill for CS:GO

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, Mr Magic Man said:

well to be even 10 FPS means the world to me. All I am chasing is the stable 144hz, because yeah when the game is quiet and no action it stays at 144 but as soon as something happens it might drop to 130 - 120 hell even 90. Surprisingly the mouse input will feel laggy even with a 10 FPS decrease so I am willing to pay a premium for it. My last resort is another 1080ti. But I am definitely going to see a 10+ fps increase right?

 

Games I play right now are

Killing Floor 2

PUBG

Overwatch

yes then these games will benefit from the CPU Upgrade

[BryceJonathan]

2 minutes ago, Mr Magic Man said:

well to be even 10 FPS means the world to me. All I am chasing is the stable 144hz, because yeah when the game is quiet and no action it stays at 144 but as soon as something happens it might drop to 130 - 120 hell even 90. Surprisingly the mouse input will feel laggy even with a 10 FPS decrease so I am willing to pay a premium for it. My last resort is another 1080ti. But I am definitely going to see a 10+ fps increase right?

 

Games I play right now are

Killing Floor 2

PUBG

Overwatch

With pubG and overwatch I think you will definitely see at least 10 fps if not more I am not familiar with killing floor so I cant say much about that. I think pubg will be the game you see the biggest increase in.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

and i mean by benefit is maybe in a small degree because i7-2600K can still give a good performance gaps to the 8700K, then the 4790K is obviously having smaller gaps

[Bush Badger]

13 minutes ago, BryceJonathan said:

With pubG and overwatch I think you will definitely see at least 10 fps if not more I am not familiar with killing floor so I cant say much about that. I think pubg will be the game you see the biggest increase in.

yeah because for now I am only getting 60-70 FPS in the lobby (which is super choppy as I run a 144hz monitor) in game I am getting 144 at places but during populated areas I dip to 80-90s. As long as I am getting more FPS im willing to do anything! (that came out wrong)

[Ordinarily_Greater]

5 minutes ago, Mr Magic Man said:

yeah because for now I am only getting 60-70 FPS in the lobby (which is super choppy as I run a 144hz monitor) in game I am getting 144 at places but during populated areas I dip to 80-90s. As long as I am getting more FPS im willing to do anything! (that came out wrong)

yeah your demand to upgrade is true so we will just need to find Asus Z370 Apex (not a must) grade motherboard

[Bush Badger]

16 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

yeah your demand to upgrade is true so we will just need to find Asus Z370 Apex (not a must) grade motherboard

is the aorus gaming 7 not adaqute? 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

5 minutes ago, Mr Magic Man said:

is the aorus gaming 7 not adaqute? 

i would go for the Z370-E from Asus if it is cheaper than the Aorus

[Bush Badger]

15 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

i would go for the Z370-E from Asus if it is cheaper than the Aorus

I dont understand your logic, you advised me to buy a 350 bucks mobo then you suggest me to buy a 200 board. To top it off my question was is the aorus gaming 7 adequate.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, Mr Magic Man said:

I dont understand your logic, you advised me to buy a 350 bucks mobo then you suggest me to buy a 200 board. To top it off my question was is the aorus gaming 7 adequate.

because i don't know how much the Apex costs, sorry.

well yeah the Gigabyte one will be fine but if you want more robust ecosystem go for the Asus one

how much is the Aorus board?

[Princess Luna]

Here mate it is up to you to find out whether it is worth it or not:

Personally speaking and I own the i7 8700 I believe your pairing is good to hold you until September of this following year of 2018 for the great release of Intel's first 10nm processors on Ice Lake architecture 9th gen.

[Bush Badger]

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Here mate it is up to you to find out whether it is worth it or not:

Personally speaking and I own the i7 8700 I believe your pairing is good to hold you until September of this following year of 2018 for the great release of Intel's first 10nm processors on Ice Lake architecture 9th gen.

hey! long time no speak and yeah definitely upgrading tbh its more about what chip and board i kinda have my kind set on the 8700k with the aorus gaming 7 for that 144fps stable juiciness. whatever give me more fps i suppose.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Mr Magic Man said:

aorus gaming 7

Happy home fire, give it 2 months your VRMs will catch fire forcing a 5ghz overclock on that shitty board though...

 

if you want to overclock the i7 8700k for a spotless 5ghz or even beyond remember delid is necessary, a beefier cooler also needed.

 

Motherboards should be aiming at:

Asus Prime-A

Asus ROG Strix-E or F

Asus Maximus Hero X

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AsRock Taichi

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MSi GODLIKE Gaming

MSi Gaming M5

 

The rest is not worth your time as the motherboard will become a wall for your overclocking potential.

[Bush Badger]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

 

Motherboards should be aiming at:

 

Asus ROG Strix-E or F

AsRock Taichi

Though I do not mind the E or F I was told they wont be suffice when it comes to higher OCs but my target its just around 4.9ghz. Also why would the aorus gaming 7 cost more than the taichi and the E / F if it doesnt perform just as well if not nice? is it because the aorus gaming 7 got some insane RGB?

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Mr Magic Man said:

is it because the aorus gaming 7 got some insane RGB?

Yes, I am not motherboard enthusiast, @dave_k is more appropriate, but long story short the Aorus Gaming 7 is an overpriced pile of junk with a VRMs disaster to anyone focused on overclocking that bad... but hey! at least you get a Christmas tree?

 

Sad part is that it'll catch fire like the tree does

 

Then again I am a strong defender that the locked i7 8700 offers superior value and that for being a locked 65w TDP processor can be placed on just about any z370 board... but knowing your deep desire for overclocking even if it will result in no fps difference even with a 1080 Ti at 1440p at least do it right and take advise of more knowledge people about motherboard raw component quality.

[just_dave]

1 hour ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yes, I am not motherboard enthusiast, @dave_k is more appropriate, but long story short the Aorus Gaming 7 is an overpriced pile of junk with a VRMs disaster to anyone focused on overclocking that bad... but hey! at least you get a Christmas tree

What? 

Gaming 5 is pretty much junk, Gaming 7 is great.

It has 6* ISL99227 Smart Powerstages, it sometimes had issues with thermal pads so the VRM ran hot, but technically it is powerful and efficient.

Gaming 7 is a good board

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

Gaming 7 is a good board

Really? was it the x299/399 then that got severely criticized then? I could swear there was a Gaming 7 doing poorly somewhere

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Really? was it the x299/399 then that got severely criticized then? I could swear there was a Gaming 7 doing poorly somewhere

X399 Gaming 7 is behind Asus, ASRock and MSI (it's using IR3556 instead of IR3555 like the rest)

[epsilon84]

This should give you a good idea of the improvement you can expect.

 

To be honest with you, I don't think it's really worth it, you are spending $700 on a platform upgrade that will give you about a 10% increase in framerates (with the exception of heavily multithreaded games, you may see larger gains there)

 

Yes, it will get you closer to 144fps in most games, but not all. I can assure you even a 8700K @ 5GHz won't maintain 144fps in a game like PUBG, it's just not a very well optimised game. 

 

 

[xg32]

the 8700k should be about 15% faster in gaming if u get it to 4.9, also the extra cores will help even more in some games. Here's another video, the first chart with the 1080 ti is with a 7700k or 8700k, then they just downgraded the cpu to show the bottlenecks.

 

As for mobo, probably can't go wrong with Taichi, E/F, hero, or gaming 7. You'll need a beefy cooler for anything above 4.6 to be safe. (D15 for airflow or something), MSI boards have the highest DOA rates according to newegg so that's up to you.

[Bush Badger]

11 hours ago, xg32 said:

 

 You'll need a beefy cooler for anything above 4.6 to be safe. (D15 for airflow or something), MSI boards have the highest DOA rates according to newegg so that's up to you.

I got the cooling part sorted with a 360 rad cooling the cpu and some janky self rigged fan tunnel for the gpu. As far as DOA goes, I am ordering from Amazon so i guess i am covered.