Did I buy the right Motherboard and RAM for my Ryzen 1700 and RX 580?

[komputeridiat]

It seems like there is a never ending trickle of information that always follow after I have done my purchases even when I thought that I have done sufficient research. This always add doubt and it's driving me nuts.
 
This is my build: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xqXZkT

All parts purchased and price listed include tax already in Canadian dollars. I was going with the 1600x before, but quickly changed my mind the moment I spotted the cheapest deal for the 1700 that was only priced 20 dollars above it. That deal had the 1700 at it's lowest price ever on Amazon and it only lasted 5 days. And correct me if I am wrong, but my mind is telling me that 1700 OC>1600x in terms of frequency.  
 
I am planning to use this computer to game at 1080p and 60-144hz for modern games like Witcher 3, DotA, SC II, and fps. I also wish to tinker with video editing, programming, and mining.
 
The one that gave me the biggest headache is the motherboard and RAM. For the MSI B350 gaming pro motherboard, I just recently read that it has really long (30sec) post time where it normally is 5 seconds or less. I didn't even know what post time is until today. In addition, this guy: https://youtu.be/iZUt9AYhxz0 recommends that more expensive boards are needed for r1700. I don't need crossfire or, at least I believe, 4 ram slots because I don't think I will need 32 GB for what I want the rig to do.  
 
For the RAM, in addition to the questionable brand because it's not popular, I just found out that AMD has a list of compatible RAM and TeamGroup is not even there. I don't want to open the RAM package to test anything because Canada Computers won't do any refunds on this product at all, not even store credits unless the package is in original condition.
 
Should I spare a few more dollars to change the motherboard and RAM? I think I will stick with Amazon since they have the best return policy. Thanks in advance!

 

Edit: I was told that my motherboard is terrible and should consider the msi carbon. Are there alternatives? Can anyone comment on the RAM too, because I received no feedback on Reddit. Thanks!!

 

Edit 2: link should be fixed. It had a period at the end.

[Kakapipi]

Post a new link, it says 404 not found

 

[Jurrunio]

15 minutes ago, komputeridiat said:

but my mind is telling me that 1700 OC>1600x in terms of frequency.  

1600x is binned to reach higher frequency while 1700 isnt. The two extra cores is why 1700 is a higher end product.

 

16 minutes ago, komputeridiat said:

Edit: I was told that my motherboard is terrible and should consider the msi carbon. Are there alternatives?

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Exactly. In fact MSI mobo for AMD processors never worked as well as others. Also, handling 8 overclocked cores will need the power delivery of an X370 mobo. Theoretically, MSI B350 Carbon does have the power delivery for it, but it's so expensive might as well buy an X370 instead. Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock all make good boards, just pick the one you like.

 

4 RAM slots means you can get 4x4 RAM setups which is sometimes cheaper than 2x8. Also having more slots means if any one of them died in the future, you arent stuck with only 1 slot.

 

It's better to get memory supported by the mobo. Their official webpages will show a list of compatible RAM.

[komputeridiat]

17 minutes ago, Kakapipi said:

Post a new link, it says 404 not found

 

Sorry, it had a period at the end. Thanks for letting me know.

[Aw_Ginger_Snapz]

Your motherboard isn't bad, and team-group ram isn't bad either. Also, anyone who tells you that you need a more expensive board for the R7 CPUs are full of it. You can put any Ryzen CPU in any AM4 socket motherboard with any chipset (X370 on the high, B350 in the mid range, and A320 on the low end) and it will work. It just wont have all of the fancy features like SLI and crossfire, RGB control, extra usb 3.1 10gb/s ports, and overclocking support on the low end. You'll be fine, don't worry.

 

Edit: I don't recommend Asus boards cause the support, warrenty, and the BIOS aren't very good. One of my Asus B350 Prime-Plus boards got bricked for seemingly no reason and Asus support is god awful to deal with.

[komputeridiat]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1600x is binned to reach higher frequency while 1700 isnt. The two extra cores is why 1700 is a higher end product

Well, I am hoping to go beyond just gaming and into video editing and others. I thought having more cores might help.

[SupaKomputa]

Your motherboard is ok. Many used it no problem. You don't need higher motherboard for Ryzen 1700.

Ryzen 1700 is better than 1600x, it got 2 more cores / 4 more threads. Don't compare it clock for clock.

Every Ryzen has the potential to OC to 4ghz max even the 1200. Yes you can overclock it if you want to.

 

For memory, i think the recommended memory list is outdated.

It is meant for the early adopters of Ryzen when it still have some problem.

But the problems are mostly fixed by now.

AMD already released the third revision of its AGESA.

 

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I don't need crossfire or, at least I believe, 4 ram slots because I don't think I will need 32 GB for what I want the rig to do.  

Yes, buy what you need, don't buy things you wont use.

[komputeridiat]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock all make good boards, just pick the one you like.

Do you have a recommendation for someone to overclock on 1700? There are just so many choices?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, komputeridiat said:

Do you have a recommendation for someone to overclock on 1700? There are just so many choices?

Only 2 conditions:

1. X370 chipset

2. Looks you like

 

Then buy the cheapest

[Aw_Ginger_Snapz]

1 minute ago, komputeridiat said:

Do you have a recommendation for someone to overclock on 1700? There are just so many choices?

If your on a budget, I'd recommend the Gigabyte B350-Gaming. It's what I'm rocking now, and it's rock-solid reliable for pretty much everything. I got my R7 1700 to 4 Ghz no problem. I couldn't even do that on my Asus X370 Prime board.

[komputeridiat]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Your motherboard is ok. Many used it no problem. You don't need higher motherboard for Ryzen 1700.

Ryzen 1700 is better than 1600x, it got 2 more cores / 4 more threads. Don't compare it clock for clock.

Every Ryzen has the potential to OC to 4ghz max even the 1200. Yes you can overclock it if you want to.

 

For memory, i think the recommended memory list is outdated.

It is meant for the early adopters of Ryzen when it still have some problem.

But the problems are mostly fixed by now.

AMD already released the third revision of its AGESA.

 

Yes, buy what you need, don't buy things you wont use.

I am considering the longevity of the board itself. I was told that it does not have great heat dissipation for it's vrm so it will deteriorate faster. However, thank you for your input.

[komputeridiat]

9 minutes ago, Aw_Ginger_Snapz said:

If your on a budget, I'd recommend the Gigabyte B350-Gaming. It's what I'm rocking now, and it's rock-solid reliable for pretty much everything. I got my R7 1700 to 4 Ghz no problem. I couldn't even do that on my Asus X370 Prime board.

Thank you. Gigabyte b350 gaming it is. Is that the precise name? Is it one of the three listed here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Comparison/Result/2?pids=6166,6225,6227

 

Gigabyte also have this ultradurable brand. Are they really what the name implies?

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, komputeridiat said:

I am considering the longevity of the board itself. I was told that it does not have great heat dissipation for it's vrm so it will deteriorate faster. However, thank you for your input.

Don't overclock then. If you're overclocking, then you are prepared to loose your motherboard at any time, even the most expensive one. Thing can go wrong if you're overclocking.

First thing to do is ask yourself, do you need to OC?

Overclocking may help up to 10% more, is it worth the risk?

FPS for games are mostly powered by the GPU.

 

I say just test the system first, see if its enough for your usage.

And if you're worried about the heat dissipation of the VRM you can use one of these :

[just_dave]

1 hour ago, Aw_Ginger_Snapz said:

your on a budget, I'd recommend the Gigabyte B350-Gaming. It's what I'm rocking now, and it's rock-solid reliable for pretty much everything. I got my R7 1700 to 4 Ghz no problem

Wow, prepare the fire extinguisher

[just_dave]

For overclocking R7, Prime X370 Pro is the best choice without spending too much

The board you got is the worst thing you could've gotten

[just_dave]

1 hour ago, komputeridiat said:

Thank you. Gigabyte b350 gaming it is. Is that the precise name? Is it one of the three listed here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Comparison/Result/2?pids=6166,6225,6227

 

Gigabyte also have this ultradurable brand. Are they really what the name implies?

The board he recommended is basically no upgrade from what you have now.

In fact, it's most likely gonna be even worse

[komputeridiat]

1 hour ago, dave_k said:

The board he recommended is basically no upgrade from what you have now.

In fact, it's most likely gonna be even worse

What are you basing that on? The user just stated he was able to oc to 4ghz. Is x370 really that necessary? Why can't b350 models work?

[just_dave]

8 hours ago, komputeridiat said:

What are you basing that on? The user just stated he was able to oc to 4ghz. Is x370 really that necessary? Why can't b350 models work?

B350 board with r7 1700 overclocked will die in 1-2 years. Their specs are trash and the VRM cooling is trash too.