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21 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

How about its clearance with RAM

That vastly depends on your mainboard and ram. But when I was building a pc for a friend of mine we had problems fitting a Hyper T4 on both a MSI Z97S SLI Krait and a MSI Z87-G45 beacuse of VRM cooling clearence issues. (Unrelated: Once we got it fitting by mounting it the other way around and thus having to trim a piece off of the heatspreader of a ram module and modify the bracket it cooled a 4670k @ 4.2 GHz just fine. These early haswell chips aren't exactly running cool, so thats why I think your 8700 would be good)

Cooler Master Hyper 212X vs Cooler Master Hyper T4 for Locked Intel Core i7 8700, aiming cooling performance, silence performance and clearance for memory (mATX board).

 

So the T4 is literally HALF the pricing of the 212X and it looks like it takes less space, have in mind in Brazil all is more expensive so it is a worth noting difference in pricing is not of mere few dollars.

 

I am leaning towards the the cheaper T4, quite frankly I just want something better than the Stock Cooler included with the i7 8700, I have ran an i7 6700 on stock cooler for a year and I still dream with its noise, enough of that I want something silent and cool even if its a locked processor and preferably without breaking the bank ^^

 

Is there any compelling reason for me to go with the 212X instead?

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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how can the intel stock cooler be too loud if you dont overclock anyways? I mean you could also just relid your cpu with liquid metal or good thermal paste

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of those two I'd get the cheaper one.

What about getting a used one? You can get massive heatsinks like the thermalright macho for like 30 bucks used and that is definitely gonna run silent.

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Just now, Tiwaz said:

how can the intel stock cooler be too loud if you dont overclock anyways?

Stock coolers aren't optimal for the locked i7 I know it from experience I have already stated.

 

I am not going to delid the i7 8700.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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4 minutes ago, Tiwaz said:

how can the intel stock cooler be too loud if you dont overclock anyways?

stock coolers are loud AF no matter how you use it

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Stock coolers aren't optimal for the locked i7 I know it from experience I have already stated.

 

I am not going to delid the i7 8700.

back inthe day when i had just built my pc i was cooling a slighty oc'd 4690k with the stock cooler and i never felt it was loud, i mean in summer it would get 65°C under gaming load but that is totally fine for 4,1 ghz on the 4690k

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Just now, Tiwaz said:

4690k

Stock Coolers by Intel gotten fairly worse from Skylake era and on, for instance they have ditch copper bases entirely.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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I undervolted my 6600 and that made my cooler much quieter while remaining at about 65C on a very hot day under load.If that doesn't work I would go T4 since it's so much cheaper and will perform practically the same without OCing

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49 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

So the T4 is literally HALF the pricing of the 212X and it looks like it takes less space, have in mind in Brazil all is more expensive so it is a worth noting difference in pricing is not of mere few dollars.

I worked with both of these multiple times (when the 212x was still called 212 evo) and unless you don't use an AMD AM3+ or FM2+ type mounting bracket on your motherboard the mounting mechanism of the Hyper T4 sucks really really bad. Doesn't completely hold the cooler down unless you use ridiculous amounts of force. And then its still really easy to pop back off because theres no screws holding it down but some lever mechanism which you have to overtighten on intel. Also the Hyper T4 seems to perform slightly worse than the 212, but that should not matter since your can't oc your chip anyways. Also the T4 doesn't take up less space then the 212.

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1 minute ago, black0utm1rage said:

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Thank you kindly this was very meaningful information!

 

So the mounting mechanism on the 212X should give me less headaches and be more reliable all around? I do want things all tight and solid... How about its clearance with RAM? could it be an issue with my z370 ROG Strix-G (mATX) and Trident Z RAM?

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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21 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

How about its clearance with RAM

That vastly depends on your mainboard and ram. But when I was building a pc for a friend of mine we had problems fitting a Hyper T4 on both a MSI Z97S SLI Krait and a MSI Z87-G45 beacuse of VRM cooling clearence issues. (Unrelated: Once we got it fitting by mounting it the other way around and thus having to trim a piece off of the heatspreader of a ram module and modify the bracket it cooled a 4670k @ 4.2 GHz just fine. These early haswell chips aren't exactly running cool, so thats why I think your 8700 would be good)

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37 minutes ago, black0utm1rage said:

That vastly depends on your mainboard and ram. But when I was building a pc for a friend of mine we had problems fitting a Hyper T4 on both a MSI Z97S SLI Krait and a MSI Z87-G45 beacuse of VRM cooling clearence issues. (Unrelated: Once we got it fitting by mounting it the other way around and thus having to trim a piece off of the heatspreader of a ram module and modify the bracket it cooled a 4670k @ 4.2 GHz just fine. These early haswell chips aren't exactly running cool, so thats why I think your 8700 would be good)

Thank you kindly again, after much thinking on it and considering the mounting issues you've addressed I have decided to cool this i7 8700 with the 212X... better safe than sorry despite the increase in spending.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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