Refreshing a 2006 build

[TGS96]

Hi guys,

I'm theoretically, in a long time, due to lack of money, upgrading a 2006 rig. It consists of a Core 2 Duo E6600, 4GB of DDR2 800 MHz, three HDD (two of which RAID 0) and a dead GTX 460 (I'm currently using a 100000-year-old AMD of unknown origin ). I wanted to pick a GTX 1050 or a RX 560 to have the possibility of playing old (max 2012) games on a 1280x1024 monitor. Turns out the CPU will bottleneck the system as hell, so I'm asking you: what could be the cheapest and most effective way to upgrade this junkyard? Thanks in advance

[Guest]

For real if i were you i'd find a used I5 2400 PC and buy a 1050Ti low profile GPU and be done with it 

 

 

[Princess Luna]

I'll say again the RX 550 is enough, it has the same performance of a GTX 560 Ti which was a very decent balanced pairing with this CPU back in the day.

 

Also get a GTX 1050 as an investment for a future CPU upgrade makes no sense because it still is a low end card, get the RX550 and after it start saving for a meaningful upgrade that includes both CPU and GPU in the future.

 

What you've with the RX 550 will still play a hell lot of old games which is what you're aiming.

[TGS96]

1 minute ago, jdwii said:

For real if i were you i'd find a used I5 2400 PC and buy a 1050Ti low profile GPU and be done with it 

 

 

Won't the i5 2400 bottleneck a 1050 Ti?

[Herman Mcpootis]

if you don't have much rn, spend a few bucks on a core 2 quad and a 2-4gb of ddr2, then prepare for a platform upgrade to a zen+/coffee lake cpu in the future.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-1GB-2GB-4GB-NON-ECC-DIMM-RAM-Tested-Desktop-Memory-DDR2-DDR3-For-Samsung-Kit/152779526028?hash=item23925e8f8c:m:mjSo6dOMc5RPBKmPVrlx7cA

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q8200-SLG9S-2-33GHz-Quad-Core-Processor/192381390850?epid=2254314482&hash=item2ccad31002:g:Z6wAAOSwPc9WyJls

[Pasi123]

What is your mobo? If it's from 2006 it probably doesn't support anything newer than first gen Core2 Duo's (best one would be a E6700). If it's newer then get a Core2 Quad Q6600 and then overclock or tape mod it

[Guest]

Just now, TGS96 said:

Won't the i5 2400 bottleneck a 1050 Ti?

Na not really dude and i can't give you links directly but look at ebay for a few min's try and find a build that can fit a normal 1050Ti and make sure it has 8GB of ram at least and that will be a nice budget build for you

[dragonhart6505]

Since you moved the topic from the GPU section to the CPU section, I'll reiterate:

Upgrade your system if those are the cards you're looking into. Get the GPU now and benefit from being able to bump things like resolution, then get your CPU/motherboard in a couple months for cheap. An 1155 socket or AM3+ will do perfectly fine for 1050/RX series cards.

[TGS96]

1 minute ago, CUDA_Cores said:

First of all, your system is LGA 775. LGA 775 has been kind of deemed end of life for PC gamers and content creators for some time now. There are upgrades you can make, but even with those upgrades any CPU is still going to hold back your GPU. 

 

First of all:

 

1. Where do you live?

 

2. What currency do you use?

 

3. I will need an intended budget for these upgrades.

 

4. What will this machine by used for (guessing gaming)

I don't actually plan on staying LGA775, CPU should be one of the most important upgrades along with mobo and RAM. So I was wondering if I would see some actual benefit buying a Ryzen 3 1200 or a G4560 or even some older CPUs that I can easily find on eBay. I live in Italy, so I use euros. Let's say I have like 500 euros to build the whole machine, so imagine buying CPU, mobo, RAM and GPU for about 400 dollars (pricing here is much higher than in US)

[TGS96]

6 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

What is your mobo? If it's from 2006 it probably doesn't support anything newer than first gen Core2 Duo's (best one would be a E6700). If it's newer then get a Core2 Quad Q6600 and then overclock or tape mod it

Don't actually know, but since it's LGA775 if I plan on upgrading the CPU I'll have to buy another one

[nishe1]

Just now, TGS96 said:

I don't actually plan on staying LGA775, CPU should be one of the most important upgrades along with mobo and RAM. So I was wondering if I would see some actual benefit buying a Ryzen 3 1200 or a G4560 or even some older CPUs that I can easily find on eBay. I live in Italy, so I use euros. Let's say I have like 500 euros to build the whole machine, so imagine buying CPU, mobo, RAM and GPU for about 400 dollars (pricing here is much higher than in US)

Something like that: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RY2nWX

[TGS96]

2 minutes ago, nishe1 said:

Something like that: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RY2nWX

Not bad, though I don't need the case and the PSU since mine are still valuable

[TGS96]

9 minutes ago, dragonhart6505 said:

Since you moved the topic from the GPU section to the CPU section, I'll reiterate:

Upgrade your system if those are the cards you're looking into. Get the GPU now and benefit from being able to bump things like resolution, then get your CPU/motherboard in a couple months for cheap. An 1155 socket or AM3+ will do perfectly fine for 1050/RX series cards.

I was thinking the same. Maybe used hardware has a better price/performance ratio

[Guest]

A GTX 1060 and a Ryzen 3 is a bad pair sorry but it is a 1050TI is the max i would get for that setup without getting GPU usage below 90% in games. 

 

 

Again for the cheapest option get a used I5 PC and a 1050TI for new the Ryzen 3 and a 1050TI is fine too

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 minutes ago, TGS96 said:

I don't actually plan on staying LGA775, CPU should be one of the most important upgrades along with mobo and RAM. So I was wondering if I would see some actual benefit buying a Ryzen 3 1200 or a G4560 or even some older CPUs that I can easily find on eBay. I live in Italy, so I use euros. Let's say I have like 500 euros to build the whole machine, so imagine buying CPU, mobo, RAM and GPU for about 400 dollars (pricing here is much higher than in US)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€115.35 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€71.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€84.25 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Low Profile Video Card  (€153.85 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cougar - GX-S 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€61.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €485.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-06 13:20 CET+0100

[nishe1]

Just now, TGS96 said:

Not bad, though I don't need the case and the PSU since mine are still valuable

Nice, so you could get a GTX 1050Ti or/and better CPU. Well but you won't better GPU if you're gonna play in the low resolution.

[dragonhart6505]

Just now, TGS96 said:

I was thinking the same. Maybe used hardware has a better price/performance ratio

For the 1050/RX 560, yes. A system like mine (Phenom II 955 + motherboard) with the performance I mentioned in your other thread, run you $80 for the combo.

[TGS96]

15 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'll say again the RX 550 is enough, it has the same performance of a GTX 560 Ti which was a very decent balanced pairing with this CPU back in the day.

 

Also get a GTX 1050 as an investment for a future CPU upgrade makes no sense because it still is a low end card, get the RX550 and after it start saving for a meaningful upgrade that includes both CPU and GPU in the future.

 

What you've with the RX 550 will still play a hell lot of old games which is what you're aiming.

For just 20 euros more I can have a far more capable GPU, if I'm upgrading the system why should I buy a 550?

[TGS96]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€115.35 @ Amazon Italia) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€71.37 @ Amazon Italia) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (€84.25 @ Amazon Italia) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB OC Low Profile Video Card  (€153.85 @ Amazon Italia) 
Power Supply: Cougar - GX-S 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€61.00 @ Amazon Italia) 
Total: €485.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-06 13:20 CET+0100

Why the LP GPU?

[Princess Luna]

Just now, TGS96 said:

For just 20 euros more I can have a far more capable GPU, if I'm upgrading the system why should I buy a 550?

Because your "Far more capable GPU" will perform identically to the RX 550 for as long as you have that Core2Duo on your system and in the way you speak it seems you're awfully too short on funds to upgrade every thing altogether.

[dragonhart6505]

I'm sure someone will have a "but for $80 you could get this and it performs way better..."

Just wait for it and take your own opinion. Research is key

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, TGS96 said:

Why the LP GPU?

didn't notice the stormX unit earlier, you can get that unit instead.

[TGS96]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Because your "Far more capable GPU" will perform identically to the RX 550 for as long as you have that Core2Duo on your system and in the way you speak it seems you're awfully too short on funds to upgrade every thing altogether.

If I buy an RX 550 and in a reasonably short time I manage to upgrade the rig I'll have to spend money again on another GPU (the RX 550 won't be enough anymore)...

[dragonhart6505]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Because your "Far more capable GPU" will perform identically to the RX 550 for as long as you have that Core2Duo on your system and in the way you speak it seems you're awfully too short on funds to upgrade every thing altogether.

It doesn't matter which upgrade comes first. He's got a dead GTX and using a crappy unknown AMD GPU now. Performance will suffer either way he goes first.

IMO, get the CPU/Mobo first, GPU prices will drop by the time you got enough to snag one. GPU first and use the E6600 for the time being saves you the headache of searching for reasonable GPU later. It's your call

[xg32]

2 hours ago, TGS96 said:

Hi guys,

I'm theoretically, in a long time, due to lack of money, upgrading a 2006 rig. It consists of a Core 2 Duo E6600, 4GB of DDR2 800 MHz, three HDD (two of which RAID 0) and a dead GTX 460 (I'm currently using a 100000-year-old AMD of unknown origin ). I wanted to pick a GTX 1050 or a RX 560 to have the possibility of playing old (max 2012) games on a 1280x1024 monitor. Turns out the CPU will bottleneck the system as hell, so I'm asking you: what could be the cheapest and most effective way to upgrade this junkyard? Thanks in advance

you could easily find a sandy bridge or hell, even ryzen pc used. I've seen a few  wanting to upgrade to coffee lake.

 

I know i've seen  r5 1600 builds for 600-800dollars the last couple of months.