AMD/Intel Build?

[Newbix_Cube]

Which build would you suggest and why? I'm not biased toward AMD or Intel, but I do  believe you get what you pay for so any guidance is helpful.

Trying to keep it under $1050 including taxes and shipping if possible.

 

AMD: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2hjKV
Intel: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gpWD

For both builds I'll be purchasing one on the 18th. Of course before I purchase I'll make changes dependent on sales, if there are any good sales going on that I can take advantage of.
In January I'll be adding a 120gb+ SSD and Corsair H90 (mounted at back vent as exhaust).

 

Both builds will have the same case, airflow, and water cooling system.

Diagram below will show how I intend to cool the system, with intake from the front and exhaust from the top and back. Including a push pull setup with the radiator.

Would this cooling setup work well?

 

[FireFox]

I'm not a fan of the FX line of CPU's but I'd say the AMD built will offer better value but I would drop the 280x and get a 280 and OC it yourself but if it was my money then I would be going for Intel.

[tristan1035]

I would make the rad intake air and put a dust filter on the back.

 

I would go with the AMD build (the AMD's cores will become much better than Intel's with console games) and get the 990fx UD3 instead.

[helping]

Go with an air cooler and put fans in the two top vents only if you run into throttling from VRM heat. 

 

you're pissing all over the "silence" aspect of the case with an h90  <_<

[WoodenMarker]

Get a rosewill hive instead: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-hive750

Has much nicer flat cables.

Go with an air cooler and put fans in the two top vents only if you run into throttling from VRM heat. 

you're pissing all over the "silence" aspect of the case with an h90  <_<

^

Keep a front intake to rear exhaust airflow and don't disrupt it with top fans. 

 

Get a barracuda instead of a caviar blue. It's a bit better. 

The extra fans may also not be necessary. 

[Newbix_Cube]

I'm not a fan of the FX line of CPU's but I'd say the AMD built will offer better value but I would drop the 280x and get a 280 and OC it yourself but if it was my money then I would be going for Intel.

 

 

What would be the difference between the 280x and 280? I can't find an R9 280 anywhere.

 

I would make the rad intake air and put a dust filter on the back.

 

I would go with the AMD build (the AMD's cores will become much better than Intel's with console games) and get the 990fx UD3 instead.

 

If I made it intake air wouldn't I lose the whole wind tunnel airflow as the intake would just go directly out of the case from the top exhaust?

 

Go with an air cooler and put fans in the two top vents only if you run into throttling from VRM heat. 

 

you're pissing all over the "silence" aspect of the case with an h90  <_<

 

H90 is loud?

 

Get a rosewill hive instead: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-hive750

Has much nicer flat cables.

^

Keep a front intake to rear exhaust airflow and don't disrupt it with top fans. 

 

Get a barracuda instead of a caviar blue. It's a bit better. 

The extra fans may also not be necessary. 

 

So don't bother with top fans? I should leave the soundproof material in the top portion of the case?

Thoughts on having a H90 exhaust? I prefer not having the bulky air cooler.

A water cooler would be for cooling and aesthetics, maybe there's a better AIO I could get?

I believe the top portion of the case can mount a 240mm rad as well.

[FireFox]

What would be the difference between the 280x and 280? I can't find an R9 280 anywhere.

 

Really? also the 'X' AMD's are the same as the normal ones but apparantly clocked higher, I would save the money and OC myself

[brob]

I'd pick the Intel because I prefer it but either build will be good.

 

Don't buy any fans. Move the rear 140 mm fan to the front when you get the H90. This should give you decent air flow and maximize noise reduction.

 

I'm with WoodenMarker on the Barracuda, Seagate ST1000DM003.

 

I'd go with a fully modular psu. 650W is more than sufficient for this build. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg0650gr

[brob]

I would make the rad intake air and put a dust filter on the back.

 

I would go with the AMD build (the AMD's cores will become much better than Intel's with console games) and get the 990fx UD3 instead.

 

The problem with passing intake air over a radiator is that it immediately raises the ambient temperature inside the case. This reduces the cooling efficiency of air cooled parts like a gpu.

[WoodenMarker]

If I made it intake air wouldn't I lose the whole wind tunnel airflow as the intake would just go directly out of the case from the top exhaust?

 

H90 is loud?

 

So don't bother with top fans? I should leave the soundproof material in the top portion of the case?

Thoughts on having a H90 exhaust? I prefer not having the bulky air cooler.

A water cooler would be for cooling and aesthetics, maybe there's a better AIO I could get?

I believe the top portion of the case can mount a 240mm rad as well.

Yes, the H90 is loud. 

 

It'd be best if you covered the top and bottom holes. Not necessary but a good idea.

What do you use the system for? If it's not cpu intensive, I wouldn't pour much money into cooling the cpu.

[TheMissxu]

Really? also the 'X' AMD's are the same as the normal ones but apparantly clocked higher, I would save the money and OC myself

You confuse 280x with 290x.. There is no AMD Radeon R9 280.

 

The 'x' also means more shader cores... In the case of R9 290(x). (With the 270/270x, it is just a higher clock).

[Newbix_Cube]

I'd pick the Intel because I prefer it but either build will be good.

 

Don't buy any fans. Move the rear 140 mm fan to the front when you get the H90. This should give you decent air flow and maximize noise reduction.

 

I'm with WoodenMarker on the Barracuda, Seagate ST1000DM003.

 

I'd go with a fully modular psu. 650W is more than sufficient for this build. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg0650gr

 

So keep the stock fans, the back exhaust and front intake.

Once I get the H90 remove the back exhaust and put in front as intake.

Would the H90 push pull method be a good idea? 

 

As for PSU I do plan on crossfiring in the future so I'd think I'd want more headroom.

[FireFox]

You confuse 280x with 290x.. There is no AMD Radeon R9 280.

 

The 'x' also means more shader cores... In the case of R9 290(x). (With the 270/270x, it is just a higher clock).

 

Wait what?

 

So there is a 270 and 270X, a 290 and 290X but no 280, how retarded is that

[Newbix_Cube]

Yes, the H90 is loud. 

 

It'd be best if you covered the top and bottom holes. Not necessary but a good idea.

What do you use the system for? If it's not cpu intensive, I wouldn't pour much money into cooling the cpu.

 

Any other water cooler suggestions?

 

1. Gaming (BF4, Day Z, Titanfall, EOS, All types of different games.)

 

2. Light Streaming (Friends from my group like to watch certain games they don't want to buy and I could stream it with decent quality for them to watch.)

 

3. Graphic Design Work (Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, and Cinema 4D.)

 

4. Web Browsing

[Newbix_Cube]

Wait what?

 

So there is a 270 and 270X, a 290 and 290X but no 280, how retarded is that

 

AMD pulled a full Kappa on that one.

[WoodenMarker]

Wait what?

 

So there is a 270 and 270X, a 290 and 290X but no 280, how retarded is that

They're probably going to do the same thing as 270/270x and come out with the 280 later as a more value oriented card with the performance of the 7950. 

Any other water cooler suggestions?

1. Gaming (BF4, Day Z, Titanfall, EOS, All types of different games.)

2. Light Streaming (Friends from my group like to watch certain games they don't want to buy and I could stream it with decent quality for them to watch.)

3. Graphic Design Work (Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, and Cinema 4D.)

4. Web Browsing

If you must go water, you could get a h80i and replace the fan. Of course, this is quite more expensive than something like a 212 Evo or a Havik 140. 

[Newbix_Cube]

They're probably going to do the same thing as 270/270x and come out with the 280 later as a more value oriented card with the performance of the 7950. 

If you must go water, you could get a h80i and replace the fan. Of course, this is quite more expensive than something like a 212 Evo or a Havik 140. 

 

Personally I want to make the computer a project. I'd like it to have some nice aesthetics. To me an air cooler is an eye sore.

Water cooler is very preferable no matter the price. H80i comes with two fans on both sides if I recall correctly. I could just unscrew one and swap it around to make it push pull?

[WoodenMarker]

Personally I want to make the computer a project. I'd like it to have some nice aesthetics. To me an air cooler is an eye sore.

Water cooler is very preferable no matter the price. H80i comes with two fans on both sides if I recall correctly. I could just unscrew one and swap it around to make it push pull?

It's already push pull. Replace the stock fans. They are quite loud. 

[Newbix_Cube]

It's already push pull. Replace the stock fans. They are quite loud. 

 

The stock fans on the H80i or Case?

[WoodenMarker]

The stock fans on the H80i or Case?

Stock h80i fans are loud. The case fans are quiet. 

[Newbix_Cube]

Stock h80i fans are loud. The case fans are quiet. 

 

So you think ordering 2 more 140 mm fractal design fans would work to match the other case fans?

[helping]

Personally I want to make the computer a project. I'd like it to have some nice aesthetics. To me an air cooler is an eye sore.

Water cooler is very preferable no matter the price. H80i comes with two fans on both sides if I recall correctly. I could just unscrew one and swap it around to make it push pull?

A NDH14, PHTC14PE, or Dark rock pro 2 are all aesthetically amazing, especially if you match the case with Noctua fans. 

 

You would be best doing this as an Intel and high end air build.

 

So you think ordering 2 more 140 mm fractal design fans would work to match the other case fans?

You shouldn't use those fans on an h80i. It's an AIO and it doesn't matter that much it's still suboptimal because the fans are not intended for that use.

[WoodenMarker]

So you think ordering 2 more 140 mm fractal design fans would work to match the other case fans?

It would match but why?

You shouldn't use those fans on an h80i. It's an AIO and it doesn't matter that much it's still suboptimal because the fans are not intended for that use.

Not sure if he meant using them for the rad but yeah^

[brob]

So keep the stock fans, the back exhaust and front intake.

Once I get the H90 remove the back exhaust and put in front as intake.

Would the H90 push pull method be a good idea? 

 

As for PSU I do plan on crossfiring in the future so I'd think I'd want more headroom.

 

Yes on the fans. I haven't seen any H90 benchmarks on the difference between push only and push/pull. Typically the difference is only a degree or two. Personally I'd use push which should help reduce the noise escaping the case. You can always replace the fan with a quieter one if you find things too noisy. Everyone's noise tolerance and environment is different, so wait until you hear it before you decide.

 

Yes you do need more psu headroom, perhaps http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750bnlg9 or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg0750gr. If you feel you need even more power perhaps http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850bbefx or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-x850.

[Newbix_Cube]

Yes on the fans. I haven't seen any H90 benchmarks on the difference between push only and push/pull. Typically the difference is only a degree or two. Personally I'd use push which should help reduce the noise escaping the case. You can always replace the fan with a quieter one if you find things too noisy. Everyone's noise tolerance and environment is different, so wait until you hear it before you decide.

 

Yes you do need more psu headroom, perhaps http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1750bnlg9 or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120pg0750gr. If you feel you need even more power perhaps http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850bbefx or http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-x850.

 

Looks like I may be getting the H80i and replace the fans with two 120mm setup in a push push exhaust factor.