Is the 8600k going to be a better gaming cpu than the 8700k?

[MekaStrix]

Hi,

 

So in the past i5's have been pretty much as good as i7's for gaming is this still the case for the new coffeelake sku's as in the past I have heard hyper threading actually hurts game performance.

 

Thanks

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, MekaStrix said:

 as in the past I have heard hyper threading actually hurts game performance.

No, that was never an issue, I think there may have been stuttering on like first gen i7s but that's about it.

the best buy overall IMO is the i7 8700 for intel, would usually recommend that over the 8600K as it's not much more, and when H370 boards drop there should be cheaper boards to make the end price the same. Also the 8600K needs a cooler, so minimum + $25 there, making the 8700 even more attractive.

Otherwise just hop on the R5 1600 train and enjoy not having to delid, will be limited to about 100fps in most AAA games though.

[MekaStrix]

Just now, Streetguru said:

No, that was never an issue, I think there may have been stuttering on like first gen i7s but that's about it.

the best buy overall IMO is the i7 8700 for intel, would usually recommend that over the 8600K as it's not much more, and when H370 boards drop there should be cheaper boards to make the end price the same.

Otherwise just hop on the R5 1600 train and enjoy not having to delid, will be limited to about 100fps in most AAA games though.

I feel a 1600 would bottleneck my 1080ti quite a bit

[epic_ziver_D]

1 minute ago, MekaStrix said:

Hi,

 

So in the past i5's have been pretty much as good as i7's for gaming is this still the case for the new coffeelake sku's as in the past I have heard hyper threading actually hurts game performance.

 

Thanks

The i7 is better because of the 4.7 Max Turbo boost and hyperthreading doesn't hurt performance on this amount of cores. (I am sure of this because I have a 8700k and am getting better frames than my friend who has same graphics card just i5 8600k)

[Streetguru]

Just now, MekaStrix said:

I feel a 1600 would bottleneck my 1080ti quite a bit

What resolution/refresh rate? Do you already have a system?

[MekaStrix]

Just now, Streetguru said:

What resolution/refresh rate? Do you already have a system?

I use 1440p 144hz and I had a system I just sold a lot of the parts to upgrade to Coffelake as my old pc was more workstation based for photoediting and video rendering but I no longer use it for that so sold the expensive CPU and motherboard to save myself some cash and increase my gaming performance.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, MekaStrix said:

 

If it was intel based running above 4ghz Coffee Lake wouldn't be much faster unless the old PC was 1st or 2nd gen Core Architecture.

If 144hz and you want the best then yes, get an 8700k and delid it. Or if you want say less cooling overhead and are OK at 100fps in AAA games, then go Ryzen

GN covers like everything, and puts it Vs Ryzen, Ryzen isn't too far behind depending on the game

 

[epic_ziver_D]

Just now, MekaStrix said:

I use 1440p 144hz and I had a system I just sold a lot of the parts to upgrade to Coffelake as my old pc was more workstation based for photoediting and video rendering but I no longer use it for that so sold the expensive CPU and motherboard to save myself some cash and increase my gaming performance.

The i7-8700k is the best gaming cpu but the price is also for the 6 cores / 12 threads so if you don't plan to use that type of stuff at all you might be better off with even a i3-8350k if you get a ok cooler and overclock it a bit

[MekaStrix]

Just now, Streetguru said:

If it was intel based running above 4ghz Coffee Lake wouldn't be much faster unless the old PC was 1st or 2nd gen Core Architecture.

If 144hz and you want the best then yes, get an 8700k and delid it.

I plan on the delid I also wanted to get rid of quad channel memory as i've had nothing but issues with it I was only ever able to get one kit to work with all 4 sticks the others would only use 3 sticks and I know all the sticks were fine as I tested them individually and ran ram tests they just wouldn't play nicely together so I decided to go back to the simpler mainstream.

[epic_ziver_D]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

If it was intel based running above 4ghz Coffee Lake wouldn't be much faster unless the old PC was 1st or 2nd gen Core Architecture.

If 144hz and you want the best then yes, get an 8700k and delid it. Or if you want say less cooling overhead and are OK at 100fps in AAA games, then go Ryzen

Yea but deliding dose void warranty and when your buying a 300+$ CPU you at least want to make sure it works properly in the first year or so

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, epic_ziver_D said:

Yea but deliding dose void warranty and when your buying a 300+$ CPU you at least want to make sure it works properly in the first year or so

It'll be fine, pretty much required if you want to get the most out of the chip

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, MekaStrix said:

 

Edited the post to include GN's review, it covers everything on the 8700K including benchmarks vs ryzen

[MekaStrix]

Just now, epic_ziver_D said:

Yea but deliding dose void warranty and when your buying a 300+$ CPU you at least want to make sure it works properly in the first year or so

TBH my experience with computer companies cough Asus cough Intel warranty means nothing with them guys but I get what you're saying intel need to stop cheaping out though on the materials they use.

[DocSwag]

Yes.

 

The 8700k is still better but the difference is very small.

 

Unless you're going all out an 8600k is a better option.

[epic_ziver_D]

Just now, MekaStrix said:

TBH my experience with computer companies cough Asus cough Intel warranty means nothing with them guys but I get what you're saying intel need to stop cheaping out though on the materials they use.

Yea but I would rather get PTPP and not delid for at least a year if not 2 (which is what I'm going to do) before delidding