Help with CPU upgrade

[iamjsed]

Hi LTT Community

 

Here's my configuration

 

CPU: Core i5 6500
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-H170N WiFi

GPU: Asus GTX 1070

MONITOR: 1080p 144Hz

 

I noticed that with some game, 6500 bottlenecks the 1070.  I am now contemplating for a CPU upgrade.

 

My options are:

• Get a i7 7700 and be done with it
• Switch to Ryzen 1600x
• Wait for Q1 2018 for Coffee lake

 

Thanks for your opinion

[A Silver]

If you can't wait and have the money, get a 7700 or a 7700k if you plan on overclocking

[iamjsed]

Just now, A Silver said:

If you can't wait and have the money, get a 7700 or a 7700k if you plan on overclocking

My motherboard don't support overclocking.  And i7 7700 is the cheapest option among the 3

[Guest]

I'd just get a B360/H370 motherboard, (they are coming out in 2018), paired with an i7-8700, if you dont want to overclock. If you want to stay on your current platform, the i7-7700 is the most you'll get out of in terms of an upgrade.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, iamjsed said:

My motherboard don't support overclocking.  And i7 7700 is the cheapest option among the 3

This is the most you will get in terms of an upgrade.

[Guest]

I think your motherboard will also require a BIOS update considering you are using a newer kabylake chip on a skylake motherboard (H170).

[iamjsed]

Just now, TheBeastPC said:

I think your motherboard will also require a BIOS update considering you are using a newer kabylake chip on a skylake motherboard (H170).

I'm already on F20 which supports the i7 7700

[KhakiHat]

I would recommend the new Coffee Lake processors, they hold a lot of performance promise. But in the event you decided not to choose the 2018 chips, Intel's i7 7700 is an excellent chip. Though AMD's chips are rising on the performance scale, they still can't out perform an Intel chip.

[Xander Cousins]

1 minute ago, KhakiHat said:

I would recommend the new Coffee Lake processors, they hold a lot of performance promise. But in the event you decided not to choose the 2018 chips, Intel's i7 7700 is an excellent chip. Though AMD's chips are rising on the performance scale, they still can't out perform and Intel chip.

AMD can't out perform Intel in the Gaming department if he was doing stuff like Editing and Visual/Audio shiz then the Ryzen would be more ideal

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, iamjsed said:

I'm already on F20 which supports the i7 7700

So your BIOS is already updated to support the kabylake chip, well I guess its just plug and play now.

 

[Simon771]

Ryzen 1600 ... not sure if I would go with that.

Rather buy i5 8600k in that case. It will have much better single core performance and will deliver better gaming experience.

When it comes to multithreaded workload 8600k will fall behind r5 1600, but just a little bit.

 

8600k is better than 7700k in any scenario, but it's true that if you want to go for 8600k, you also need new motherboard.

 

I went from 4790k to R7 1700 and now I ordered i5 8600k since it will be better for gaming.

[JobbelsNL]

12 minutes ago, iamjsed said:

Hi LTT Community

 

Here's my configuration

 

CPU: Core i5 6500
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-H170N WiFi

GPU: Asus GTX 1070

MONITOR: 1080p 144Hz

 

I noticed that with some game, 6500 bottlenecks the 1070.  I am now contemplating for a CPU upgrade.

 

My options are:

• Get a i7 7700 and be done with it
• Switch to Ryzen 1600x
• Wait for Q1 2018 for Coffee lake

 

Thanks for your opinion

I would suggest buying a 370 series mobo and then buy a I5 8600K you could easily get it to 5.2 ghz and its great for its price because it easily beats the i7 7700K for 220 dollar

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, KhakiHat said:

they still can't out perform an Intel chip.

Gaming=No they cant Productivity workloads= Yes

[KhakiHat]

2 minutes ago, TheBeastPC said:

Gaming=No they cant Productivity workloads= Yes

I can see what you're saying, but as time goes on I feel like Intel is the more reliable option. Assuming this is a gaming build, Intel would still be a better alternative than to AMD.

[Guest]

Just now, KhakiHat said:

I can see what you're saying, but as time goes on I feel like Intel is the more reliable option. Assuming this is a gaming build, Intel would still be a better alternative than to AMD.

In the mobile segment with AMDs ryzen based APUs which feature vega compute units, they are beating intel integrated GPU segment with their mobile processors, but then there is going to be AMD radeon based graphics being implemented into intels processors on the same die within the mobile processors segment. Intel certainly take the win when it comes to clockspeeds and AMD certainly takes the win when it comes to workstation use. And the OP looks to me as they dont want to upgrade to a newer platform.

[KhakiHat]

3 minutes ago, TheBeastPC said:

In the mobile segment with AMDs ryzen based APUs which feature vega compute units, they are beating intel integrated GPU segment with their mobile processors, but then there is going to be AMD radeon based graphics being implemented into intels processors on the same die within the mobile processors segment. Intel certainly take the win when it comes to clockspeeds and AMD certainly takes the win when it comes to workstation use. And the OP looks to me as they dont want to upgrade to a newer platform.

Thus in this case, Intel would be the best option for the OP.

[iamjsed]

I just watched Linus' review of the 8700K and I noticed that the 7500 doesn't lag too far behind the 7700K in gaming. Assuming that the 7700 is maybe a little bit closer to the 7700K in terms of general gaming performance which is my primary use case for my rig  I think 7700 will be the most sensible upgrade for me.

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, KhakiHat said:

Thus in this case, Intel would be the best option for the OP.

Basically yes. If the OP deided to upgrade to ryzen, a whole new platform brings the cost of a new mobo+CPU.

 

12 minutes ago, iamjsed said:

I just watched Linus' review of the 8700K and I noticed that the 7500 doesn't lag too far behind the 7700K in gaming. Assuming that the 7700 is maybe a little bit closer to the 7700K in terms of general gaming performance which is my primary use case for my rig  I think 7700 will be the most sensible upgrade for me.

I mean, if you want to stay on your current platform, then the 7700 is probably your most viable upgrade option.