Upgrading my PC for 500 euros.

[seon123]

54 minutes ago, Underi said:

Would you rather take Ryzen 7 and high-speed ram instead of 8400 and lower-end ram? I checked out and it'd be 500 euros with the 8400, lower end ram and a decent mobo and PSU, but having high-speed ram with 1700 and OC mobo would be about 600 euros, and lower end ram with 8600k and OC mobo would be 17 euros cheaper than the 1700 combo. What should I pick?

For gaming, the 8400 is the better choice. You won't be overclocking a Ryzen 8 core on a B350 motherboard. 

Don't get the Corsair VS, get a decent PSU

[Underi]

4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

For gaming, the 8400 is the better choice. You won't be overclocking a Ryzen 8 core on a B350 motherboard. 

Don't get the Corsair VS, get a decent PSU

Like I said I picked a "decent" psu, with 80 plus bronze certificate. Is 8600k worth the extra 100 or should I just stick with 8400? I don't feel that good about it since I currently have the "equivalent" one of haswell series, 4460 and I wouldn't really call it a good CPU. Sure it runs even todays games around 60 FPS, but I feel like I am just getting a newer version of my current processor. Maybe this is true.

[MrTiC]

R5 1600 with stock cooler

B350 Board (asrock or asus)

16GB 2666 or 3000mhz/3200Mhz

Rest of budget to a better psu

 

Or wait a month or 2 and get:

I5 8400

H310/B360 mobo (Q1 2018)

16GB 2666Mhz ram

Rest of budget to a better psu

[seon123]

Just now, Underi said:

Like I said I picked a "decent" psu, with 80 plus bronze certificate. Is 8600k worth the extra 100 or should I just stick with 8400? I don't feel that good about it since I currently have the "equivalent" one of haswell series, 4460 and I wouldn't really call it a good CPU. Sure it runs even todays games around 60 FPS, but I feel like I am just getting a newer version of my current processor. Maybe this is true.

The Corsair VS is a pile of garbage. 80+ certifications don't say anything about how good a PSU is, it just measures the efficiency or cherry picked units. Something like the CX450/M, Pure Power 10 or Vengeance shouldn't cost that much more.

The 8400 beats the 7700K in some titles, and performs similarly in most. I wouldn't worry about it. 

[Underi]

5 minutes ago, MrTiC said:

R5 1600 with stock cooler

B350 Board (asrock or asus)

16GB 2666 or 3000mhz/3200Mhz

Rest of budget to a better psu

 

Or wait a month or 2 and get:

I5 8400

H310/B360 mobo (Q1 2018)

16GB 2666Mhz ram

Rest of budget to a better psu

Too bad only a couple of games support many cores. I'd rather actually upgrade from my CPU, not just get another 200 euro mid-range CPU that is good for gaming for like 2 years only to buy i5 9400 next.

[MrTiC]

3 minutes ago, Underi said:

Too bad only a couple of games support many cores. I'd rather actually upgrade from my CPU, not just get another 200 euro mid-range CPU that is good for gaming for like 2 years only to buy i5 9400 next.

1st the 8400 is a HUGE upgrade from the 4460

2nd it seems you made youre mind already with the 8600K ...

On a sub par motherboard with the lowest tier corsair psu ... 

3rd youre already talking about being obsolete in 2 years for gaming, but yet you use an already obsolete 970 ...

 

 

[Underi]

43 minutes ago, MrTiC said:

3rd youre already talking about being obsolete in 2 years for gaming, but yet you use an already obsolete 970 ...

Sorry mate, this is one thing that ticks me off. 970 obsolete? What the hell? That card wasn't designed for 1440p. You are trying to compare it with 1070. Another thing that ticks me off is people comparing it to the 1050 ti. NO! It's performance is that of a 1060, slightly worse, but that is something that you won't even notice. 1050 ti barely runs shit 60fps since it is a budget card, 970 is a high-end GPU and runs a lot better and 1060 does practically the same. You don't play 1440p with a 1060. 970 is not obsolete, it is a very good card that will run fine for at least a year or two. Look at this, you won't even notice the difference.in games : http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2577vs3639

 

What I don't like about in 8400 is the fact that my processor is also x400. It is a fucking budget CPU. But is 8600k worth 100 euros more just for the extra performance? Take my processor as an example. i5 4460 was released in 2014 and these days IS old and IS obsolete. What about 8400? You own one in 2020 and it WILL be obsolete. And then I'm supposed to "upgrade" to something like 9400? It's not upgrading. It is buying the same fucking processor, but just newer. 8600k is a high-end processor. That you can call an upgrade. Of course 8400 will perform massively better than 4460, it is 3 years older than the 8400!