My First Build

[DevilsDJ]

Well the title says it , this will be my first desktop build in like ....um..... 10-12 years of using laptops.I would appreciate any and all comments and suggestions about the parts picked.One thing I have to mention is Im a bit limited on part variety since Im getting all the parts from the same shop where Ill be getting them on leasing (dont have the cash to drop at once).This is the site for the shop for whoever wants to look at prices or what I can pick from , please have in mind site quality is bad and the currency is in Bulgarian Lev. - www.most-sz.com/

SO on to the build and why it is as it is - I wanted a small pc (ended picking Mid tower build for more Cpu cooling options) , which will MOSTLY , but not only be used for movies , youtube , music and such , and sometimes Dota and other not so high and mighty games.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - V8 GTS 82.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370M GAMING PRO AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($43.50 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5t ATX Mid Tower Case  ($76.89 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $709.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-27 18:12 EDT-0400

 

Or the other case with other CPU fan ( since the V8 wont fit in this one ) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($87.69 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370M GAMING PRO AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Crucial - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($43.50 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($64.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $676.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-27 18:17 EDT-0400

[DevilsDJ]

I like this cuz as the lack of my building skills shows me this is a nice prebuild for later upgrading - like adding 1/2 video cards (board supports SLI ) ,adding Ram and even upgrading the CPU to like an i5 or i7 8gen.

 

O and forgot to mention as alot of you will point it out , I already have several SSD's so I dont need to buy one and I forgot to just add it to the build in the list.

[Jurrunio]

Ryzen 3 1200 can already crunch these less demanding games at much lower prices.

 

You need a graphics card. 1050ti is enough but 1060 3gb gives better value out of mid end cards.

 

Even 450W PSU can power a 1200 with 1060 3gb so no need to overspend on that. That doesnt mean you can go cheap though.

[emosun]

also you can pretty much just use the stock intel heatsink , 90$ on a cpu cooler with your limited budget is a waste of money.

 

and yeah the machine doesn't even have a gpu in it so no need for a 620w psu

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, DevilsDJ said:

 adding 1/2 video cards (board supports SLI)

Not a good way to spend money. You get less than you pay when going SLI. Always go for a more powerful single graphics card than adding more of them.

5 minutes ago, DevilsDJ said:

even upgrading the CPU to like an i5 or i7 8gen.

That's a good reason, provided that you are willing to pay

 

1 minute ago, emosun said:

also you can pretty much just use the stock intel heatsink , 90$ on a cpu cooler with your limited budget is a waste of money.u

K CPUs dont come with stock heatsink

[DevilsDJ]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Ryzen 3 1200 can already crunch these less demanding games at much lower prices.

 

You need a graphics card. 1050ti is enough but 1060 3gb gives better value out of mid end cards.

 

Even 450W PSU can power a 1200 with 1060 3gb so no need to overspend on that. That doesnt mean you can go cheap though.

 

Just now, emosun said:

also you can pretty much just use the stock intel heatsink , 90$ on a cpu cooler with your limited budget is a waste of money.

 

and yeah the machine doesn't even have a gpu in it so no need for a 620w psu

The idea is to get the mostly needed parts and add on to these at a later date - add a video card or 2 , about the cpu cooler have no idea ( mostly like the badass V8 :D), and Id like it to be as most future proof as possible as to not have to buy 2-3 parts when I mostly wanna add/replace 1 - like adding a video card but not having enough W so having to get a new PSU as well 

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

K CPUs dont come with stock heatsink

then buy one

[DevilsDJ]

Im thinking the integraded video card will be sufficient enough for start or should I just get a 1050ti or 1060ti

[Cyracus]

this would be a better system https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rYfqGf   but if you want to build it your way get something like a hyper 212 or cryorig c7, that should more than handle what that 8350k will put out, even OC'd

[DevilsDJ]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Ryzen 3 1200 can already crunch these less demanding games at much lower prices.

 

You need a graphics card. 1050ti is enough but 1060 3gb gives better value out of mid end cards.

 

Even 450W PSU can power a 1200 with 1060 3gb so no need to overspend on that. That doesnt mean you can go cheap though.

Also what brand to go with the video card ? I have no idea so many to choose from , this is the list of the ones i can pick from http://www.most-sz.com/components.aspx?t=VIDEO CARD

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, DevilsDJ said:

 

The idea is to get the mostly needed parts and add on to these at a later date - add a video card or 2 , about the cpu cooler have no idea ( mostly like the badass V8 :D), and Id like it to be as most future proof as possible as to not have to buy 2-3 parts when I mostly wanna add/replace 1 - like adding a video card but not having enough W so having to get a new PSU as well 

By the time you get a graphics card hungry enough for a beefy PSU, the one you have has probably spent enough time to be replaced due to wear anyway. Also a graphics card is needed for even less demanding games other than those really non-demanding ones like minesweeper, solitaire and so on.

 

Ryzen is guaranteed to be future compatible: CPU support up to 2020. 8th gen though... Intel has been cutting compatibility every 2 generations so it should last to 9th gen in theory (though most likely a refresh). Still, the previous track record only shows 2-3 years of future compatibility. However Intel chips are better at games despite being more expensive, so that's a choice on whether you have deep pockets.

 

If you are getting Coffee Lake after considering both sides, make sure you wait till next year. Prices should drop to a much more acceptable level as supply stabilizes.

9 minutes ago, DevilsDJ said:

Also what brand to go with the video card ? I have no idea so many to choose from , this is the list of the ones i can pick from http://www.most-sz.com/components.aspx?t=VIDEO CARD

What currency is that? For what you do a 1050ti is enough but 1060 3gb can give you more for your money. Which exact card depends on your computer case.

[Jurrunio]

16 minutes ago, emosun said:

then buy one

In that case, there's simply no reason not to get an aftermarket one and prefer the noisy, inefficient stock cooler.