Ryzen 7 1700 OC Behavior issues

[suzerain_00]

So I've been using my Ryzen 7 1700 system for exactly a month now (https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/K4hJhq) and I believe I've successfully overclocked the 1700 to 3.85gHz at 1.3v. I've run AIDA64 multiple times, anywhere from 5-30 minutes and the system is perfectly stable. I've played games at 1080p with not stutters, hangs or crashes, I've rendered video in Vegas with nothing strange to note and I've exported in DaVinci Resolve with the same results. As far as I can tell, the overclock is sound. However, for some strange reason video compression in Handbrake always leads in a system crash. The screen goes black and I have to reset the system. I'm trying to compress Vegas XAVC files to the internet 1080p 30fps setting at 20 on the quality slider on Handbrake and it never works. Any thoughts? I want to blame hardware, but literally everything other than Handbrake my hardware seems to be doing quite well so idk. Ryzen quirk? Handbrake issue? Love to hear back from everyone. Thanks a bunch ?.

[johndms]

4 minutes ago, ExodusR said:

I believe I've successfully overclocked the 1700 to 3.85gHz at 1.3v. I've run AIDA64 multiple times, anywhere from 5-30 minutes and the system is perfectly stable.

Try 2 hours. 5-30 minutes is useless. I'm not satisfied until I can let my CPU overclock run overnight (7hrs) without it failing. When you use Aida64's stress test.  Check only the first three boxes.  CPU / FPU / Cache.

[Fraser Cow]

You are lucky, I have to crank the voltage up around 1.4 to get 3.85. You can try bumping your voltage up just a bit, or better yet go back to stock and see if it still crashes. If it still crashes at stock you know it's a software bug, if it doesn't crash at stock try an bit more voltage.

[johndms]

1 minute ago, Fraser Cow said:

You are lucky, I have to crank the voltage up around 1.4 to get 3.85. You can try bumping your voltage up just a bit, or better yet go back to stock and see if it still crashes. If it still crashes at stock you know it's a software bug, if it doesn't crash at stock try an bit more voltage.

the only thing that worries me is a Ryzen 7 on a budget-oriented b350 board. I wouldn't recommend taking the vcore higher than 1.35v.

[just_dave]

dont even oc on that crappy board

[Fraser Cow]

11 hours ago, johndms said:

the only thing that worries me is a Ryzen 7 on a budget-oriented b350 board. I wouldn't recommend taking the vcore higher than 1.35v.

I assumed you were using an X370 board. You should try going back to stock and running the encode in Handbrake again. If it works try 3.7 on all cores and if that works go a little higher until you have the problem again and then dial back your clock speed a little and call it quits.

[suzerain_00]

15 hours ago, johndms said:

Try 2 hours. 5-30 minutes is useless. I'm not satisfied until I can let my CPU overclock run overnight (7hrs) without it failing. When you use Aida64's stress test.  Check only the first three boxes.  CPU / FPU / Cache.

Noted, I'll test for 2hrs later this afternoon. Thanks  

[suzerain_00]

15 hours ago, Fraser Cow said:

You are lucky, I have to crank the voltage up around 1.4 to get 3.85. You can try bumping your voltage up just a bit, or better yet go back to stock and see if it still crashes. If it still crashes at stock you know it's a software bug, if it doesn't crash at stock try an bit more voltage.

I just tested a few compressions at stock clocks and and it's fine, I'm thinking more voltage is necessary  Thanks though, I wouldn't have tried it at stock if you didn't mention it  

[suzerain_00]

15 hours ago, johndms said:

the only thing that worries me is a Ryzen 7 on a budget-oriented b350 board. I wouldn't recommend taking the vcore higher than 1.35v.

I'd imagine 1.35v is probably close to the upper limit for the Pro4. The VRM is pretty toasty at 1.3v so I might have to fiddle around with clocks and voltage...

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, ExodusR said:

I just tested a few compressions at stock clocks and and it's fine, I'm thinking more voltage is necessary  Thanks though, I wouldn't have tried it at stock if you didn't mention it  

more voltage will only kill your board more and more

look for prime x370 pro if you want to OC R7

[johndms]

2 minutes ago, ExodusR said:

I'd imagine 1.35v is probably close to the upper limit for the Pro4. The VRM is pretty toasty at 1.3v so I might have to fiddle around with clocks and voltage...

I need to invest in one of those infrared temperature gun things. Is that what you're using to test vrm temp?

[suzerain_00]

2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

more voltage will only kill your board more and more

look for prime x370 pro if you want to OC R7

I knew it was a stretch to begin with, overclocking an R7 on a B350 board. But my dude, I personally can't justify spending $250 CAD on a mobo when I can potentially get away with a lower priced one. You're probably right honestly, it's better for the whole system generally if I had X370 but I'm sticking with what I got for the moment. Also, how tf do you expect me to take your advice seriously when it's in Comic Sans?

[suzerain_00]

6 minutes ago, johndms said:

I need to invest in one of those infrared temperature gun things. Is that what you're using to test vrm temp?

I don't actually know the VRM temps, but if you watch this video from Actually Hardcore Overclocking, buildzoid mentions that the board is just a 3+3 phase rather than a genuine 6 phase which doesn't help VRM temps. So it's pretty safe to assume that the board at 1.28v and up will experience higher VRM temps. Although now that you bring it up, I am kind of interested to see for myself what the VRMs are actually doing, maybe I'll buy a temperature gun as well...

[just_dave]

8 minutes ago, ExodusR said:

I don't actually know the VRM temps, but if you watch this video from Actually Hardcore Overclocking, buildzoid mentions that the board is just a 3+3 phase rather than a genuine 6 phase which doesn't help VRM temps. So it's pretty safe to assume that the board at 1.28v and up will experience higher VRM temps. Although now that you bring it up, I am kind of interested to see for myself what the VRMs are actually doing, maybe I'll buy a temperature gun as well...

@johndms knows quite a lot about this particular ASSRock mobo, so he'll help you the most.

Generally, since you're using an AIO, take the fan off the stock AMD cooler and ziptie it on the place so it blows on the VCore VRM heatsink.

I have "worked" with bz and actually made the drama about cooking B350 boards that resulted in the video.

[just_dave]

21 minutes ago, ExodusR said:

I knew it was a stretch to begin with, overclocking an R7 on a B350 board. But my dude, I personally can't justify spending $250 CAD on a mobo when I can potentially get away with a lower priced one. You're probably right honestly, it's better for the whole system generally if I had X370 but I'm sticking with what I got for the moment. Also, how tf do you expect me to take your advice seriously when it's in Comic Sans?

Bcoz comic sans rolls

[suzerain_00]

UPDATE: I don't remember changing priorities, but for whatever reason Handbrake's system priority was set to below normal. I changed it from below normal to high and it appears to have solved the problem, also it's the only thing I've changed since I posted this (I was playing around with voltage but I went back to my old overclock of 3.8gHz at 1.3v). I've also switched from running AIDA64 to Prime95, and I'll be continuing my long OC burn in later today. Thanks for the help guys! Love you all <3