X370 Ryzen+

[Draydince]

I recently had a Ryzen build with a 1700x, but had to RMA it due to a bunch of issues.

My plan was to get an 8700k, but the scarcity of them seems like that wont be happening anytime soon.

The rumors seem like Ryzen+ will be coming out in earlier 2018, around FEB - but the rumors also say that the x470 motherboard will come a little later, maybe march.

What is the likelyhood that an x370 board will support Ryzen+ without needing an older gen1 ryzen to flash the bios in the first place? I'm considering since it's not too far away just waiting for Ryzen+, but not having a gen 1 cpu to upgrade the bios is a bit worrisome.

 

[Aidanlockett1]

wait untill ryzen plus, and buy a motherboard maybe a month or so after you either buy the cpu or wait. the bios should be updated and if prices don't change then just buy an x470

[Fardin]

dont buy nothing now. since you can wait, better wait & buy all together whatever that works best for you. 

[Draydince]

Yeah, I'll probably wait for X470 but the rumors indicate that the motherboard will be releasing after the CPU... Seems like a kind of weird move to make. I'm just wondering if it would even theoretically work. I've never built a system using an old motherboard that didn't already have the gen before its cpu to upgrade.

I guess if I get an 8700k or X470 build strictly comes down to which one becomes available first.

[phongle123]

All cards are on the table now. Nothing much is going to happen until Ryzen adds 2 additional cores to their product line like people have been hinting. Until then Intel won't do anything, they've got a strong lineup against Ryzen right now considering the 8700k almost matches the cinebench score of the 1700-1800x overclocked. 1660ish @5.0Ghz vs 1770ish @4.0Ghz overclocked on both.

I'm not hating on Ryzen, I own a 1700x but considering changing to 8700k due to the games I play which are mostly single core.

[GDRRiley]

AMD has said that all ryzen cpus and mobos should work till zen2 or zen2+/zen3.

[Draydince]

33 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

AMD has said that all ryzen cpus and mobos should work till zen2 or zen2+/zen3.

Being compatible doesn't mean out of the box, though.

Just as you could put a 7700k in a z170 board, but you need a bios update to be compatible with them.

Is this not the case with AMD? I have an 8350 right now, but it's with a 990fx board so it was compatible from the get-go.

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Draydince said:

Being compatible doesn't mean out of the box, though.

Just as you could put a 7700k in a z170 board, but you need a bios update to be compatible with them.

true but a compatible cpu is 50 and you could always return it or most pc places would flash it for you. some don't even need a cpu in them 

[Draydince]

I don't live even remotely close to any genuine computer shops, unfortunately. The closest thing I have is a Best Buy lol.

[just_dave]

X370 will work with Zen+ or Zen 2 or Zen 3, but it needs to be a decent one tm. one of the 8 X370s