Need some help with my i5 4690k Overclock

[skuul88]

So I am very new to overclocking, having only tried manually pushing past stock clock speeds within the past 2 weeks. I am experiencing some disturbing temperatures at 4.4 ghz with a hyper 212 evo paired with a noctua nf-f12.

 

specs are as follows:

Motherboard: asrock z97 extreme4

CPU: i5 4690k

CPU cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO with noctua nf-f12

Memory: 4x4 Crucial Ballistix

GPUS: MSI  980 OC in SLI (yes they are bottlenecked by the cpu i know)

Power Supply: Corsair RM850

Case: thermaltake urban s71 

Case Fans:

                 Intake:200 mm thermaltake top and front

                 Exhaust: 120mm thermaltake rear mounted

 

Running positive case pressure with decent airflow paths, and core temp is reporting spikes up to 96 degrees while running aida64 on Core #0 only. Core #0 is averaging in the mid 80's The others are stable at more reasonable temps. Thermal paste is arctic silver and has been applied, cleaned with IPA and reapplied twice in the last few days. I suppose the thing I am most curious about is the delta between core0 and the others. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

EDIT:      Thank you everyone who commented, I really appreciate the input and prompt responses. you folks are amazing. this is my first time trying a forum out and i gotta say im impressed with the community feel. im not worried anymore, im just gonna dial back the OC and let it ride till i finish my new build. 

 

 

 

 

[sazrocks]

What did you set the voltage to in the bios?

[skuul88]

Just now, sazrocks said:

What did you set the voltage to in the bios?

Thanks for the quick reply, Voltage is set at 1.2 even. fan profiles are set to full speed for reasons that should be obvious, xmp is active, and cpu input voltage is 1.8 

[ImNotThere]

what is package temps? perhaps try reseating cooler with fresh thermal paste, how old is the system?

[sazrocks]

6 minutes ago, skuul88 said:

Thanks for the quick reply, Voltage is set at 1.2 even. fan profiles are set to full speed for reasons that should be obvious, xmp is active, and cpu input voltage is 1.8 

(not a haswell expert, so take this with a grain of salt)

There are 2 factors I can think of here. First, your 212 evo isn't exactly very good for overclocking, and I can verify this first had. Second, the delta between the cores can be accounted for by bad TIM/TIM application between the die and the IHS. Unfortunately the latter can only be solved by a delid.

[skuul88]

Just now, ImNotThere said:

what is package temps? perhaps try reseating cooler with fresh thermal paste, how old is the system?

didnt measure package temp as i have been using core temp, the cooler has been removed and reseated 2 times in the last few days and the system is about 3 years old. ill run aida64 again and see what the package temp comes out to be in cpuid hwmonitor

[ImNotThere]

Just now, skuul88 said:

didnt measure package temp as i have been using core temp, the cooler has been removed and reseated 2 times in the last few days and the system is about 3 years old. ill run aida64 again and see what the package temp comes out to be in cpuid hwmonitor

just know that the cores will fluctuate as they get "more difficult work" so the package temp is normally the better thing to go off of, if i remember 4th gen wasnt soldered? i could be wrong, im not calling for a delid here but id say dial back by 100 mhz and bring the voltage down a lil till its stable at the lowest possible voltage

[ARikozuM]

What's your ambient and core temps, voltage, and is it just the frequency that was touched?

[skuul88]

1 minute ago, sazrocks said:

(not a haswell expert, so take this with a grain of salt)

There are 2 factors I can think of here. First, your 212 evo isn't exactly very good for overclocking, and I can verify this first had. Second, the delta between the cores can be accounted for by bad TIM/TIM application between the die and the IHS. Unfortunately the latter can only be solved by a delid.

I want to delid this system, due in part to the fact that I am building a new pc soon. i figured that may be the case with the extreme delta. thanks for the info, looks like Ill be dropping back down to a 4.0 or so.

[CaZowski]

31 minutes ago, skuul88 said:

So I am very new to overclocking, having only tried manually pushing past stock clock speeds within the past 2 weeks. I am experiencing some disturbing temperatures at 4.4 ghz with a hyper 212 evo paired with a noctua nf-f12.

 

specs are as follows:

Motherboard: asrock z97 extreme4

CPU: i5 4690k

CPU cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO with noctua nf-f12

Memory: 4x4 Crucial Ballistix

GPUS: MSI  980 OC in SLI (yes they are bottlenecked by the cpu i know)

Power Supply: Corsair RM850

Case: thermaltake urban s71 

Case Fans:

                 Intake:200 mm thermaltake top and front

                 Exhaust: 120mm thermaltake rear mounted

 

Running positive case pressure with decent airflow paths, and core temp is reporting spikes up to 96 degrees while running aida64 on Core #0 only. Core #0 is averaging in the mid 80's The others are stable at more reasonable temps. Thermal paste is arctic silver and has been applied, cleaned with IPA and reapplied twice in the last few days. I suppose the thing I am most curious about is the delta between core0 and the others. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I Think your biggest issue is getting a K series chip with an air cooler. I know the 212 is great but you should really have a liquid cooler for milder temps 

[skuul88]

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

What's your ambient and core temps, voltage, and is it just the frequency that was touched?

ambient is 75f, core temps are in the screenshot, max of 96 on core#0, and the rest are at reasonable temps in the 70s, its an all core OC of 4.4 im just gonna dial back the OC to 4.0 and let it ride till i get my new system built. thanks for commenting though, I appreciate everyone's interest in my little build.

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, skuul88 said:

ambient is 75f, core temps are in the screenshot, max of 96 on core#0, and the rest are at reasonable temps in the 70s, its an all core OC of 4.4 im just gonna dial back the OC to 4.0 and let it ride till i get my new system built. thanks for commenting though, I appreciate everyone's interest in my little build.

Does your motherboard allow per core OC? You can set all of your cores to 44 and the #0 to 40. 

[skuul88]

6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Does your motherboard allow per core OC? You can set all of your cores to 44 and the #0 to 40. 

it does, but im just gonna let it ride like i said. 4.0 is fine i still get 130 fps in rainbow six siege at 1440p and high detail so im straight... thanks tho

[skuul88]

1 hour ago, CaZowski said:

I Think your biggest issue is getting a K series chip with an air cooler. I know the 212 is great but you should really have a liquid cooler for milder temps 

my next build is going to be a custom loop in a caselabs magnum sma8 so im not worried about this one anymore. im not gonna bother with an AIO. thats a hundred bucks better spent on fittings and pipe. i really appreciate everyone in this thread. ive never posted in any forum before so this has been eye opening. LTT folks are the best