PC not living up to it's hardware.

[Jev96]

So as the title says I'm not getting the most out of my PC. I recently upgraded my motherboard, CPU, and ram.

 

Specs before I upgraded:

Asus hero VI LGA 1150 Motherboard

i7 4770k

16 GB Ripjaw DDR3

1080ti EVGA Black edition

AX760i Corsair PSU

500gb SSD

2tb WD HDD

 

I upgraded to:

MSI Carbon Pro Motherboard

16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX

Ryzen 7 1700x @4.0 

 

So as the title states my PC is just not living up to it's hardware, I was getting higher frames with my old i7 build than I am with my current new build. For example I was getting 180+ FPS on Doom max settings, now it's gone down to lows of 80 and I'm getting constant frame drop in most other games.

 

One game that stands out a lot for me is Borderlands 2, only running around 70 frames whilst my old build and friends of mine with 1060s and 1070s are getting way more frames than I am, sometimes I'm dropping down to 40 and even lows of 30 on a 5 year old game.

 

I ran 'GPUtest' got a score of 14,000 with anti aliasing on 8x, average fps of 240 whilst my friend with an i5 4500k and a 1070 was getting around 11,000 score and around 180 frames.

 

Things I have already tried to fix this:

Resetting the overclock on my CPU

messed around with nvidia control panel

reinstalling windows

reinstalling games (such as borderlands)

rolling back GPU drivers

I even tried my friends 1070 in my PC and i'm getting the same result; my 1080ti in his PC is working just fine and getting more results than I am.

 

It's worth mentioning that when I rebuilt my PC it was refusing to boot, so I put it down to faulty ram, got a replacement set (of the same corsair LPX 16gb) and it booted. 

 

Thanks for reading and if you have any suggestions then please let me know.

[hconverse02]

Is the ram running at full speed?

[Jev96]

Just now, hconverse02 said:

Is the ram running at full speed?

Ram is running at 2400 Mhz which is it's full speed yes.

[SquintyG33Rs]

1 minute ago, Jev96 said:

Ram is running at 2400 Mhz which is it's full speed yes.

you need faster ram. this is just part of the problems with ryzen. you shouldn't have upgraded like this for gaming it's actually more of a downgrade. these chips are great for production not games.

[staubgame]

4 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Is the ram running at full speed?

You should still get higher fps. I played Doom on my 1080 and was at 120ish fps at 1440p.

(I assume you dont play at 4K)

2 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

you need faster ram. this is just part of the problems with ryzen. you shouldn't have upgraded like this for gaming it's actually more of a downgrade. these chips are great for production.

Speaking from benchmarks alone, the Ryzen 7 should still (at least) be up to par with the i7-4xxx. 

Not significantly worse.

 

Have you run a hardware monitor while gaming? To see if any component gets to hot?

[Himommies]

Without at least 2888mhz ram you actullay switched to a weaker processor

But it shoudn't be this severe.reinstall drivers 

[Jev96]

1 minute ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

you need faster ram. this is just part of the problems with ryzen. you shouldn't have upgraded like this for gaming it's actually more of a downgrade. these chips are great for production not games.

Well actually my main purpose for upgrading is for streaming, which this CPU is far superior for over the 4770k

[Jev96]

Just now, staubgame said:

You should still get higher fps. I played Doom on my 1080 and was at 120ish fps at 1440p.

(I assume you dont play at 4K)

Speaking from benchmarks alone, the Ryzen 7 should still be up to par with the i7-4xxx. 

Not significantly worse.

 

Have you run a hardware monitor while gaming? To see if any component gets to hot?

Yes I am playing at 1080p, the thing is if I load 'GPUtest' it will increase the temps from my GPU from an idle of around 50 up to around 65-70. however when I load a game such as borderlands 2, it doesn't increase in temperature whatsoever

[SquintyG33Rs]

Just now, staubgame said:

Speaking from benchmarks alone, the Ryzen 7 should still be up to par with the i7-4xxx. 

Not significantly worse.

no dude i had a 4790k and i now have a 1700 i know what i'm talking about. check your benchmarks again because they all used different ram so make sure it's comparable to this configuration before saying that

[hconverse02]

Just now, Jev96 said:

Yes I am playing at 1080p, the thing is if I load 'GPUtest' it will increase the temps from my GPU from an idle of around 50 up to around 65-70. however when I load a game such as borderlands 2, it doesn't increase in temperature whatsoever

Are you watching gpu/cpu usages during games? If they don't increase (say gpu usage stays at 40% the entire time) that could be another problem

[SquintyG33Rs]

5 minutes ago, Jev96 said:

Well actually my main purpose for upgrading is for streaming, which this CPU is far superior for over the 4770k

oh yeah definitely. you can easily do 1080p@60fps x264 medium encoding with 0 drops

[RadiatingLight]

3 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

you need faster ram. this is just part of the problems with ryzen. you shouldn't have upgraded like this for gaming it's actually more of a downgrade. these chips are great for production not games.

 

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

Without at least 2888mhz ram you actullay switched to a weaker processor

But it shoudn't be this severe.reinstall drivers 

 

Um... no.

RAM speed matters with Ryzen, but not enough to completely ruin it. it should definitely be able to get 100+ FPS on stuff like borderlands

I feel like this is the next craze -- if you don't have 4Ghz RAM, you might as well just get intel amirite?

 

just DDU and reinstall

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

oh yeah definitely. you can easily do 108880p@60fps x264 medium encoding with 0 drops

Holy shit. We're all struggling to game at 4K while this kid is playing at 20,000K

[SquintyG33Rs]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

Holy shit. We're all struggling to game at 4K while this kid is playing at 20,000K

keyboard is fucking with me with multy hits...... fixed it

[BWLServers]

You lost about 5% single core performance with Ryzen. Definitely not 100 FPS worth. Anyone saying it's a "downgrade" is an Intel fanboy or a simpleton.

Monitor CPU and GPU load (individual cores is helpful) during games and check back.

[Jev96]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

 

 

Um... no.

RAM speed matters with Ryzen, but not enough to completely ruin it. it should definitely be able to get 100+ FPS on stuff like borderlands

I feel like this is the next craze -- if you don't have 4Ghz RAM, you might as well just get intel amirite?

 

just DDU and reinstall

This is exactly what I mean, even if it was a 'downgrade' there's no way I should be getting under 60fps on a 5 year old game. By the way this is the same story in a lot of games, I've tried shadow of mordor, bioshock infinite. Still no good.

[staubgame]

2 minutes ago, Jev96 said:

Yes I am playing at 1080p, the thing is if I load 'GPUtest' it will increase the temps from my GPU from an idle of around 50 up to around 65-70. however when I load a game such as borderlands 2, it doesn't increase in temperature whatsoever

An idle of 50 sounds very high already. Is it that hot at your place?

I was mostly thinking about maybe the cpu getting to hot, not the gpu. 

Maybe like thermal paste forgotten or wrong or something?

50^C idle is quite hot. ^^

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, Jev96 said:

This is exactly what I mean, even if it was a 'downgrade' there's no way I should be getting under 60fps on a 5 year old game. By the way this is the same story in a lot of games, I've tried shadow of mordor, bioshock infinite. Still no good.

yeah DDU and reinstall.

(uninstall drivers using Display Driver Uninstaller, then reinstall)

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, staubgame said:

An idle of 50 sounds very high already. Is it that hot at your place?

I was mostly thinking about maybe the cpu getting to hot, not the gpu. 

Maybe like thermal paste forgotten or wrong or something?

50^C idle is quite hot. ^^

not really, especially if his GPU has a 0RPM mode

[staubgame]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

not really, especially if his GPU has a 0RPM mode

So has mine but is usually hovers around 35°C idle. (yes 0RPM) ^^

 

Edit: Currently at 39°C with 22°C ambient temperature.

[BWLServers]

1 minute ago, staubgame said:

So has mine but is usually hovers around 35°C idle. (yes 0RPM) ^^

 

Edit: Currently at 39°C with 22°C ambient temperature.

Unless the GPU is throttling (perhaps that's the issue but doesn't sound like it) the temps aren't a super big concern or red flag. A 10 degree difference ain't a big deal.

[staubgame]

Just now, BWLServers said:

Unless the GPU is throttling (perhaps that's the issue but doesn't sound like it) the temps aren't a super big concern or red flag. A 10 degree difference ain't a big deal.

Still refering to his CPU.

If the Ryzen runs 90°C it will throttle everything ^^

 

Otherwise I'd clean uninstall drivers as well first. How was it said. DDU?  

[BWLServers]

Oh. I thought you were all arguing over the GPU. My bad.

[Jev96]

1 minute ago, staubgame said:

Still refering to his CPU.

If the Ryzen runs 90°C it will throttle everything ^^

 

Otherwise I'd clean uninstall drivers as well first. How was it said. DDU?  

nope CPU Isn't running hot either.

[normpearii]

Quick question.


What power plan are you using?