4k Editing and 3D Rendering

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

Well, as the tilte says my friend need a complete new setup to properly render 4k, he will be using it for work so he's ready to spent for good quality and future-proof.

 

Budget: 2200 Euros / 2500 USD

 

AIM: 4K Video Editing, 3D modeling - rendering, VR Content Creation, Animations.

 

Monitors: 1 1080p 60hz.

 

SO: WIll be W10.

 

Extra: Already have 4TB from another pc + MOUSE + KEYBOARD.

 

(maybe: CUSTOM WATERCOOLING IN THE FUTURE)

 

 

 

1st: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/BGdNd6

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€302.95 @ PC Componentes) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€124.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Asus - MAXIMUS IX HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€264.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€409.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€86.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€136.40 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card  (€824.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€184.66 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €2334.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

 

2nd: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/2cmVkT

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€279.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€124.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€409.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€86.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€64.80 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€184.66 @ Amazon Espana) 
Total: €1150.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

(SOME PRICES ARE MISSING)

 

WIll the PSU be enough?

It's the R7 1700 enough or should he go with the R7 1800X (future proof)?

 

 

Any other consideration?

 

[PlayStation 2]

R7 1800X is just an overclocked 1700. A little pointless to get that instead.

[Thinkfreely]

So I would build the first one, but swap out the 7700k because your doing video editing for a 1700, and upgrade the PSU to 850 watts.

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

1 minute ago, Thinkfreely said:

So I would build the first one, but swap out the 7700k because your doing video editing for a 1700, and upgrade the PSU to 850 watts.

If  I swap to 1700... wouldn't be the 2nd option better? (beacuse it's and AMD system)

850w isn't a bit overkill?

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

R7 1800X is just an overclocked 1700. A little pointless to get that instead.

Okey!

[Thinkfreely]

These are the changes I would make. Remember that 4k gaming the IPC goes away and it pushes the processing onto the GPU, so the 1700 is more then capable (I speak from personal experience) for 4k gaming, and then you get the extra cores and threads. Also kept you RGB board, and did a 370 so you can use all your PCIE lanes.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€279.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€204.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€409.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€86.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€136.40 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card  (€824.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Total: €1940.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 23:41 CEST+0200

[Thinkfreely]

1 minute ago, JustAnotherIntelFanBoy said:

850w isn't a bit overkill?

No because if you overclock any of this you want all that extra wattage.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Thinkfreely said:

So I would build the first one, but swap out the 7700k because your doing video editing for a 1700, and upgrade the PSU to 850 watts.

He doesn't need an 850W PSU for a single GPU.

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

Just now, Thinkfreely said:

These are the changes I would make. Remember that 4k gaming the IPC goes away and it pushes the processing onto the GPU, so the 1700 is more then capable (I speak from personal experience) for 4k gaming, and then you get the extra cores and threads. Also kept you RGB board, and did a 370 so you can use all your PCIE lanes.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€279.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€204.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€409.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€86.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€136.40 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card  (€824.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 
Total: €1940.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-03 23:41 CEST+0200

Not gaming.-

ONLY 4k video editing.

[Thinkfreely]

Just now, JustAnotherIntelFanBoy said:

Not gaming.-

ONLY 4k video editing.

Then it's doubly the better option to go :D. Also 4k editing benefits from SSD, so take that extra money and get a larger SSD so you can hold more of your editing files without having to swap them to the HHD.

[Thinkfreely]

2 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

He doesn't need an 850W PSU for a single GPU

If he overlclocks the CPU, overclocks the GPU, overclocks the Ram, and overclocks his wind up clock, he will want the extra wattage 

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

Just now, Thinkfreely said:

Then it's doubly the better option to go :D. Also 4k editing benefits from SSD, so take that extra money and get a larger SSD so you can hold more of your editing files without having to swap them to the HHD.

I think that the X370-F is a bit overkill for a single gpu, and my friend can overclock in the b350 too.

[Guest]

Just now, Thinkfreely said:

If he overlclocks the CPU, overclocks the GPU, overclocks the Ram, and overclocks his wind up clock, he will want the extra wattage.

No he won't. A 550W/650W is enough even with overclocking.

[Thinkfreely]

Just now, JustAnotherIntelFanBoy said:

I think that the X370-F is a bit overkill for a single gpu, and my friend can overclock in the b350 too.

I was going to x370 to ensure you have full access to all the PCIE lanes. A 350 is more than capable of overclocking.

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

Just now, Thinkfreely said:

I was going to x370 to ensure you have full access to all the PCIE lanes. A 350 is more than capable of overclocking.

But with the B350 he will cover all the pcie lanes he needs for a single gpu, or not?

[Thinkfreely]

Just now, lee32uk said:

No he won't. A 550W/650W is enough even with overclocking.

Are you basing this off personal experience with testing out the max wattage from the wall when 32gb of ddr4, a 1080ti, and a 1700 are all overclocked? Because I am, and while a 650watt would be perfectly capable of handling it (under most situations) if his GPU and CPU are  pegged at 90% usage for long periods of time his system could have instability. It's better to have a little extra wattage to maintain his efficiency curve. Again IF he overclocks it all, and that is the usage case.

[Thinkfreely]

1 minute ago, JustAnotherIntelFanBoy said:

But with the B350 he will cover all the pcie lanes he needs for a single gpu, or not?

Yes, I was talking about if you add more to the build as you go, or if you update it to Zen 2 next year and need more lanes. Thinking down the road.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Thinkfreely said:

Are you basing this off personal experience with testing out the max wattage from the wall when 32gb of ddr4, a 1080ti, and a 1700 are all overclocked? Because I am, and while a 650watt would be perfectly capable of handling it (under most situations) if his GPU and CPU are  pegged at 90% usage for long periods of time his system could have instability. It's better to have a little extra wattage to maintain his efficiency curve. Again IF he overclocks it all, and that is the usage case.

I am basing it off reviews online. If you had the gpu and cpu fully stressed out in a torture test you will pull around 500W or so. This is not going to happen in everyday usage even with them both overclocked.

 

Also the efficiency curve isn't going to make any difference either. You are talking a couple of percent difference in efficiency across the curve.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-aorus-gtx-1080-ti-xtreme-gaming-review,8.html

https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/amd-ryzen-7-1700-review/6/

[Thinkfreely]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

I am basing it off reviews online. If you had the gpu and cpu fully stressed out in a torture test you will pull around 500W or so. This is not going to happen in everyday usage even with them both overclocked.

 

Also the efficiency curve isn't going to make any difference either. You are talking a couple of percent difference in efficiency across the curve.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-aorus-gtx-1080-ti-xtreme-gaming-review,8.html

https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/amd-ryzen-7-1700-review/6/

Yes and I wasn't saying  "You don't know shit! rofl. I just base things off what i have seen with personal tests. I trust reviews, but I trust what I see more. And I always leave room because I want to have that padded room.

[cj09beira]

x370 will last for 2 more gens of ryzen chips, so i would advise not cheaping out on the board so that in a few years to upgrade the cpu all he needs to do is update the bios and change the cpu, with lots more perf (ryzen 2 cpu will probably be a 12 core)

[cj09beira]

a 1080 ti can pull almost 300w by it self if oced to max, the cpu will use maybe 200w at max, 650w is enough, but don't cheap out on psu (get a good one independently of the wattage)

[seon123]

21 minutes ago, JustAnotherIntelFanBoy said:

But with the B350 he will cover all the pcie lanes he needs for a single gpu, or not?

The issue with a B350 board with Ryzen 7 isn't the PCIe lanes, it's more that you get X370 so that you can overclock without blowing up the board

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Thinkfreely said:

Yes and I wasn't saying  "You don't know shit! rofl. I just base things off what i have seen with personal tests. I trust reviews, but I trust what I see more. And I always leave room because I want to have that padded room.

I wasn't accusing you of saying that  Also it depends on the price of the psu. If there isn't much of a price difference between 650W and 850W then it isn't worth scrimping over a few £££ or $$$ to get the lower wattage unit. 

 

 

[Thinkfreely]

Just now, lee32uk said:

I wasn't accusing you of saying that  Also it depends on the price of the psu. If there isn't much of a price difference between 650W and 850W then it isn't worth scrimping over a few £££ or $$$ to get the lower wattage unit. 

Totes agree. 

[JustAnotherIntelFanBoy]

@Thinkfreely @seon123 @lee32uk @cj09beira

So.... something like this:

 

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/bx3fQV

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (€279.00 @ Amazon Espana) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€124.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€204.25 @ PC Componentes) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€409.95 @ PC Componentes) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€86.95 @ Amazon Espana) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€64.80 @ Amazon Espana) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx White 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€160.25 @ PC Componentes) 
SubTotal: €1330.15 + around 800 GPU + 70 case
Total: €2200

 

I put the white psu beacuse the black one has no price.-

Opinions?