My pc build

[KevinH9]

Hello 

 

Can someone tell me if this will get me above 60 FPS on medium - ultra settings for newer titles in games like rust, the forest, garrys mod and other new games

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pmPL3F

Here is the link also can someone tell me if the processor is supported on the motherboard 

also i already have 2 hard drives 

 

Thanks!

[iRileyx]

More than capable.

 

I'd swap out the PSU for a G2/G3 from Evga, or a Corsair CXm which are regularly on sale.

[KevinH9]

Just now, RKRiley said:

More than capable.

i meessed up on motherboard it is the one without the water-cooling tubes input on it

[iRileyx]

Just now, KevinH9 said:

i meessed up on motherboard it is the one without the water-cooling tubes input on it

That won't make a difference.

 

Most Z170 boards will ship with an updated BIOS now, but there's a chance it won't, in which case you'll need to find a way to update it. (someone/somewhere who has a 6th gen chip)

[Jurrunio]

Just now, KevinH9 said:

i meessed up on motherboard it is the one without the water-cooling tubes input on it

Your cooler is an all-in-one type, so you cant connect any water-cooled parts to it anyway.

[KevinH9]

1 minute ago, RKRiley said:

That won't make a difference.

 

Most Z170 boards will ship with an updated BIOS now, but there's a chance it won't, in which case you'll need to find a way to update it. (someone/somewhere who has a 6th gen chip)

it says one their website supports 6/th and 7th generation intel processor and will the z170 underperform the z270 

[KevinH9]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Your cooler is an all-in-one type, so you cant connect any water-cooled parts to it anyway.

i didn't mean cooler the motherboard has water tube pipe inputs if i wanted to water cool other things with a pump 

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, KevinH9 said:

it says one their website supports 6/th and 7th generation intel processor and will the z170 underperform the z270 

no, same performance.

 

1 minute ago, KevinH9 said:

i didn't mean cooler the motherboard has water tube pipe inputs if i wanted to water cool other things with a pump 

you won't be building a custom loop just for your motherboard, so the inlets don't matter

[iRileyx]

3 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

it says one their website supports 6/th and 7th generation intel processor and will the z170 underperform the z270 

 

It's still possible that it won't work though, that board was produced before 7th gen chips came out, so depending how long the store you buy from has had it in their stock, it can potentially not have the correct bios.

Motherboards generally make 0 performance difference, unless you overclock then the VRM's can make a difference but still not a major one.

[RadiatingLight]

I'd recommend this build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($196.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($144.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($424.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1156.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-26 19:24 EDT-0400

 

it's more expensive, both because you didn't include your motherboard price in the calculation, and because this has 16GB RAM, Includes storage, and has a GTX 1070.

[KevinH9]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

I'd recommend this build:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($196.29 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($106.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($144.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($424.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1156.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-26 19:24 EDT-0400

 

it's more expensive, both because you didn't include your motherboard price in the calculation, and because this has 16GB RAM, Includes storage, and has a GTX 1070.

not AMD fan

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, KevinH9 said:

not AMD fan

Why?

[KevinH9]

3 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Why?

AMD underperforming in gaming i am mainly focusing on gaming 

[iRileyx]

3 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

AMD underperforming in gaming i am mainly focusing on gaming 

For 1080p 60fps you won't notice a difference.

 

Also gives you the extra cores/threads for if you ever decide to record, edit, or stream(or all three) your gameplay  

[RadiatingLight]

4 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

AMD underperforming in gaming i am mainly focusing on gaming 

Anyone on this forum will say that a 1600 + GTX 1070 is miles better than a 7700K + GTX 1060.

 

40% better GPU performance, with maybe 3-4% lower FPS due to the CPU.

AMD isn't bad at gaming, it's just not as good as the best.

if you look at intel's X299 CPUs, they're also worse at gaming than the 7700K.

[DocSwag]

8 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

not AMD fan

 

3 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

AMD underperforming in gaming i am mainly focusing on gaming 

Not true, IMO a Ryzen 5 1600 is better than a 7600k for example for gaming.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument/page-4

 

While Intel wins in averages, if you pay close attention Ryzen wins in minimums. This indicates a much smoother and more consistent experience rather than one that's sometimes good and sometimes bad. I would personally much rather choose the consistent one as the lows are what you notice.

 

That's not to mention a 1600 based system is cheaper than a 7600k based one (cheaper cpu, cheaper mobo, comes with stock cooler). And it has a better upgrade path.

 

Regardless, you may want to consider waiting a week or two for Coffee Lake to launch. It'll give us 6 core i5s and that may be a better option than Ryzen for gaming.

[Connor Price]

7 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

AMD underperforming in gaming i am mainly focusing on gaming 

Not entirely true. The R5 1600 is very competitive with the i5 7600k and beats it on occasion. The R7's are also very competitive and lower priced than a 7700k. The 7700k is still the gaming top dog, however for 1080p gaming you won't notice unless you're pushing very high refresh rates. AMD under performing is something straight out of the Bulldozer era of CPU's which were in fact rubbish for gaming.

[DocSwag]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

40% better GPU performance, with maybe 3-4% lower FPS due to the CPU.

1600 won't bottleneck a 1070 except maybe in something like 720p  

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Leshya said:

It doesn't matter if you are a fan or not. You are getting value for money. Higher overall performance on a platform which has a four year cycle makes for a cheap buy in whilst constant updating unlike that of Intel. Its the whole idea of false economy. AMD will release Zen 2 and have improvements both IPC and clock-speeds. Intel has been stagnant and as such allows for performance on AMDs side easier to obtain while retaining better value.

Not stagnant anymore!

[DocSwag]

Just now, Leshya said:

IPC wise tho  but let's be honest here, covfefe lake is just Kaby-Lake with different core configurations.

It's not like there's that much IPC jump to be had  

 

Yeah Covfefe Lake is just Kaby Lake with more cores. But that's still a huge deal. 50% more cores for the same price is not something to scoff at.

 

Of course, we must pay our respects to amd for bringing this to us  

[KevinH9]

8 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Anyone on this forum will say that a 1600 + GTX 1070 is miles better than a 7700K + GTX 1060.

 

40% better GPU performance, with maybe 3-4% lower FPS due to the CPU.

AMD isn't bad at gaming, it's just not as good as the best.

if you look at intel's X299 CPUs, they're also worse at gaming than the 7700K.

well yeah because it 1060 vs 1070, 1070 is a lot faster then that but if it was an 7700k with 1070 it win

[iRileyx]

3 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

well yeah because it 1060 vs 1070, 1070 is a lot faster then that but if it was an 7700k with 1070 it win

Again, at 1080p 60fps you wouldn't notice a difference as both configs easily push out 60+ fps.

 

The main point was that a 7700k + 1060 is the same price(give or take like $20) as a 1600 + 1070, but the 1600 + 1070 would offer better performance and being able to crank up the graphical settings in games.

[KevinH9]

Just now, RKRiley said:

Again, at 1080p 60fps you wouldn't notice a difference as both configs easily push out 60+ fps.

It’s been know that intel beats amd

[iRileyx]

1 minute ago, KevinH9 said:

It’s been know that intel beats amd

You really aren't getting the point here, are you?

 

You're only going to be running 1080p 60fps, yes intel beats amd for gaming but they both push easily over 60fps, why pay the extra for intel when you won't get to notice the extra fps?

[RadiatingLight]

5 minutes ago, KevinH9 said:

It’s been know that intel beats amd

Nope!

not in price/performance, and you can save $150 on a CPU, which you can put towards a GPU, and get much better gaming performance.

the 1600 is not as good as the 7700K in gaming, but it's not bad at all, and not bad enough to be noticeable if you have a standard 60Hz monitor.

AMD CPUs have trouble with anything over 120FPS, which you won't even need