I'm confused

[Roguedrigo]

So, I first installed Windows 10 because it's easy to use, then I discovered that San Andreas doesn't work with it, so I installed Windows 7 to play it without any issue, now I found out that my CPU isn't compatible with this OS, I don't know what else can I do.
I have a GTX 960 lying around, will installing it solve the problem? To do the latter I'd need to get a VGA to HDMI/DVI/DisplayPort adapter, because my monitor uses that.

[TheElectronicGeek1]

2 minutes ago, Roguedrigo said:

So, I first installed Windows 10 because it's easy to use, then I discovered that San Andreas doesn't work with it, so I installed Windows 7 to play it without any issue, now I found out that my CPU isn't compatible with this OS, I don't know what else can I do.
I have a GTX 960 lying around, will installing it solve the problem? To do the latter I'd need to get a VGA to HDMI/DVI/DisplayPort adapter, because my monitor uses that.

What cpu do you have? I think windows 7 doesn't support new 7th gen intel chips.

[Roguedrigo]

1 minute ago, TheElectronicGeek1 said:

What cpu do you have? I think windows 7 doesn't support new 7th gen intel chips.

Intel Celeron G3930, H110 motherboard.
I know, that's what I discovered today, while I was trying to solve the problem, installing the latest drivers for its iGPU.

[TheElectronicGeek1]

Just now, Roguedrigo said:

Intel Celeron G3930, H110 motherboard. I know, that's what I discovered today, while I was trying to solve the problem, installing the latest drivers for its iGPU.

Yep, that launched beginning of 2017, i'm guessing it's just not supported by windows 7. Typical microsoft forcing everyone to windows 10.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 minute ago, Roguedrigo said:

Intel Celeron G3930, H110 motherboard. I know, that's what I discovered today, while I was trying to solve the problem, installing the latest drivers for its iGPU.

The Intel Celeron G3930 is based on the Kaby Lake Architecture which dropped support for any Windows edition older than 10. Skylake is the last generation that supported these older versions of Windows.

 

[Roguedrigo]

12 minutes ago, TheElectronicGeek1 said:

Yep, that launched beginning of 2017, i'm guessing it's just not supported by windows 7. Typical microsoft forcing everyone to windows 10.

I would use Windows 10 without any problem, but the thing is that it isn't compatible with older DirectX versions, which means that games like San Andreas won't work, at least properly.

 

11 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

The Intel Celeron G3930 is based on the Kaby Lake Architecture which dropped support for any Windows edition older than 10. Skylake is the last generation that supported these older versions of Windows.

I know, but will installing the graphics card I mentioned solve the problem? Or should I just lay on the ground and cry miserably?

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

3 minutes ago, Roguedrigo said:

I would use Windows 10 without any problem, but the thing is that it isn't compatible with older DirectX versions, which means that games like San Andreas won't work, at least properly.

If there are issues in terms of compatibility, there's unfortunately nothing you can really do outside of just acquiring an older system to play your older games. Some DirectX9 games like Combat Arms for instance still worked flawlessly even on Windows 10, others aren't so lucky. 

[TheElectronicGeek1]

Just now, Roguedrigo said:

I know, but will installing the graphics card I mentioned solve the problem? Or should I just lay on the ground and cry miserably?

No your SOT. Unless you have a extra skylake cpu lying around.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 minute ago, Roguedrigo said:

I know, but will installing the graphics card I mentioned solve the problem? Or should I just lay on the ground and cry miserably?

I would just try anyways. There's no harm to it. Especially if you're just running on intel HD graphics right now. 

[Roguedrigo]

By the way, not even GTA 2 is working... I want to die... So badly.

[AresKrieger]

You can get windows 7 running on a new PC, but it is a major pain in the ass and basically requires getting a modified install of the OS, I failed trying to get it on a friends PC but you may find someone with better expertise if you're lucky

[Roguedrigo]

2 minutes ago, TheElectronicGeek1 said:

No your SOT. Unless you have a extra skylake cpu lying around.

Maybe I can manage to get a G4400, but only if it's guaranteed to work with Windows 7.

1 minute ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

I would just try anyways. There's no harm to it. Especially if you're just running on intel HD graphics right now. 

Okay then, I will try. If it doesn't work I'll look for something like a G4400, thanks.
Do VGA to HDMI adapters work? VGA female to HDMI male.

[KieuVanQuan]

I may sound stupid now but have you tried running GTA SA in "compatibility mode" when you had win10?

[Roguedrigo]

Just now, KieuVanQuan said:

I may sound stupid now but have you tried running GTA SA in "compatibility mode" when you had win10?

I did practically EVERYTHING I could to play it on Windows 10, I even tried to get it to work by installing a few different DirectX versions, but failed miserably, I also did that Compatibility Mode thing.

[KieuVanQuan]

Just now, Roguedrigo said:

I did practically EVERYTHING I could to play it on Windows 10, I even tried to get it to work by installing a few different DirectX versions, but failed miserably, I also did that Compatibility Mode thing.

What were the error messages?

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

5 minutes ago, Roguedrigo said:

Maybe I can manage to get a G4400, but only if it's guaranteed to work with Windows 7.

Okay then, I will try. If it doesn't work I'll look for something like a G4400, thanks.
Do VGA to HDMI adapters work? VGA female to HDMI male.

Hopefully someone else here can double check whether or not Kaby lake boards are backwards compatible with Skylake chips. 

 

I haven't heard or have seen such connectors, mainly because VGA doesn't carry a digital signal and HDMI doesn't carry an analog signal so it most likely won't work without any additional circuitry and trickery. 

 

DVI-I on the other hand has both signals so DVI-I to VGA adapters do work and I've used quite a few over the years.

[Roguedrigo]

5 minutes ago, KieuVanQuan said:

What were the error messages?

"At least DirectX 9 is required", it popped every single time I executed the game.

4 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Hopefully someone else here can double check whether or not Kaby lake boards are backwards compatible with Skylake chips. 

 

I haven't heard or have seen such connectors, mainly because VGA doesn't carry a digital signal and HDMI doesn't carry an analog signal so it most likely won't work without any additional circuitry and trickery. 

 

DVI-I on the other hand has both signals so DVI-I to VGA adapters do work and I've used quite a few over the years.

https://www.amazon.com/Active-Adapter-Benfei-Converter-Gold-Plated/dp/B01KLKQN9U/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506288628&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=vga+adapter&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-RCDC-14038-Displayport-Female-Adapter/dp/B00N9GIECS/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506288628&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=vga+adapter&psc=1
DisplayPort is also digital as HDMI, I believe.

[AresKrieger]

Looks like the solution people have been using is essentially installing a copy via a cd/dvd drive and installing a user created patch to allow updates such as SP1 to be installed, though those updates can be installed manually as well but that is a bit of a hassle unless you have the updates on a drive already

1 minute ago, Roguedrigo said:

At least DirectX 9 is required

Trying installing/reinstalling a directx9 version then, can't hurt assuming you haven't already

[TheElectronicGeek1]

Just checked, Skylake chips work on Kabylake boards as long as you have the newest bios version.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

2 minutes ago, Roguedrigo said:

"At least DirectX 9 is required", it popped every single time I executed the game.

https://www.amazon.com/Active-Adapter-Benfei-Converter-Gold-Plated/dp/B01KLKQN9U/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506288628&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=vga+adapter&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-RCDC-14038-Displayport-Female-Adapter/dp/B00N9GIECS/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1506288628&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=vga+adapter&psc=1
DisplayPort is also digital as HDMI, I believe.

Yea, that's what I meant as in additional circuitry and trickery. You do come across ones that are just literally adapters from time to time, and those don't work.

[Roguedrigo]

1 minute ago, AresKrieger said:

Trying installing/reinstalling a directx9 version then, can't hurt assuming you haven't already

I did, several times actually.

1 minute ago, TheElectronicGeek1 said:

Just checked, Skylake chips work on Kablake boards as long as you have the newest bios version.

 

7 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Hopefully someone else here can double check whether or not Kaby lake boards are backwards compatible with Skylake chips. 

They are, this is my motherboard. Compatible with both Skylake and Kaby Lake out of the box.

2 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

yea, that's what I meant as in, additional circuitry and trickery. You do come across ones that are just literally adapters from time to time, and those don't work.

Yes, I just ordered a chinese one, I'm going to get a new monitor soon, so I don't know.

[Roguedrigo]

By the way, ASRock's site has a tutorial on how to install Windows 7 with the latest chipsets, I followed it and I got it to work. Games appear to be a different story, so I'll just get a G4400 to be 100% sure.

[KieuVanQuan]

4 minutes ago, Roguedrigo said:

By the way, ASRock's site has a tutorial on how to install Windows 7 with the latest chipsets, I followed it and I got it to work. Games appear to be a different story, so I'll just get a G4400 to be 100% sure.

My SSD doesn't even support Windows 7 anymore lol.

[TheElectronicGeek1]

Just now, KieuVanQuan said:

My SSD doesn't even support Windows 7 anymore lol.

Lol how is that possible.

[Roguedrigo]

Just now, KieuVanQuan said:

My SSD doesn't even support Windows 7 anymore lol.

I have an SSD too, it works apparently. It's a UV400, what's yours?