Posted September 20, 2017 Hello, I'm helping a friend of mine build a new gaming PC, because his old one is more than 5 years old. His budget is ~1500-1600€, there's no need for an OS, a monitor or any peripherals. We're both from germany. Here's the build so far: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€300.78 @ Mindfactory) CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€153.94 @ Mindfactory) Motherboard: ASRock - X370 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (€151.94 @ Mindfactory) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€149.34 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€99.39 @ Mindfactory) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (€527.84 @ Mindfactory) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case (€114.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€74.84 @ Mindfactory) Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer (€16.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1687.23Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 20:06 CEST+0200 Are there any parts that we should change? In particular I'm never really sure about the motherboard, is the one we chose good? We also have a question about the ssd, would it be worth it to get an NVMe ssd or is the performance upgrade neglectable? He'll be using the ssd as a boot drive and put some frequently used software and games on there. Another question we have is the CPU cooler, is it worth it to get a liquid cooler if we don't plan on overclocking the cpu? If not we'll be getting an air cooler, any suggestions on quiet ones? We can also swap out the case if there are any similar priced ones that are more quiet or have a better build quality, he doesn't really care how the case looks as long as it's black and quiet. That's pretty much it, if you have any feedback or suggestions, please let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 If hes just gaming and not doing any streaming and rendering stuff like that get a 7700k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, Xrellik said: If hes just gaming and not doing any streaming and rendering stuff like that get a 7700k Not worth it anymore mate. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, rawberry said: Hello, I'm helping a friend of mine build a new gaming PC, because his old one is more than 5 years old. His budget is ~1500-1600€, there's no need for an OS, a monitor or any peripherals. We're both from germany. Here's the build so far: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€300.78 @ Mindfactory) CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€153.94 @ Mindfactory) Motherboard: ASRock - X370 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (€151.94 @ Mindfactory) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€149.34 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€99.39 @ Mindfactory) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (€527.84 @ Mindfactory) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case (€114.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€74.84 @ Mindfactory) Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer (€16.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1687.23Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 20:06 CEST+0200 Are there any parts that we should change? In particular I'm never really sure about the motherboard, is the one we chose good? We also have a question about the ssd, would it be worth it to get an NVMe ssd or is the performance upgrade neglectable? He'll be using the ssd as a boot drive and put some frequently used software and games on there. Another question we have is the CPU cooler, is it worth it to get a liquid cooler if we don't plan on overclocking the cpu? If not we'll be getting an air cooler, any suggestions on quiet ones? We can also swap out the case if there are any similar priced ones that are more quiet or have a better build quality, he doesn't really care how the case looks as long as it's black and quiet. That's pretty much it, if you have any feedback or suggestions, please let me know! you running those 2 1tb hdd in raid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Author Just now, Sage_Masters said: you running those 2 1tb hdd in raid? Yes, we'll be running them in raid1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Being Delirious said: Not worth it anymore mate. The 7700k is only worth it ONLY if you game it gives major increase in fps at 1080/1440p with a 1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, rawberry said: Yes, we'll be running them in raid1. does he plan on doing streaming, video editing stuff like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, Xrellik said: The 7700k is only worth it ONLY if you game it gives major increase in fps at 1080/1440p with a 1080 Theres only a 2% bottleneck with a vega 64 and a ryzen 5 1600. And its cheaper. Makes a lot more sense. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Author Just now, Sage_Masters said: does he plan on doing streaming, video editing stuff like that? He'll be doing both occasionally but not really a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Wrong currency The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 The actual amount is 1584.60 in your country PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMwPZ8 Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMwPZ8/by_merchant/ CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Amazon UK) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£100.00 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£108.90 @ More Computers) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£143.98 @ More Computers) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£86.99 @ Ebuyer) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.99 @ Aria PC) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.99 @ Aria PC) Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card (£479.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.37 @ Box Limited) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.96 @ Box Limited) Total: £1397.16 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 19:37 BST+0100 The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, rawberry said: He'll be doing both occasionally but not really a priority. does he care to save money or his happy with his budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Author 7 minutes ago, Being Delirious said: The actual amount is 1584.60 in your country PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMwPZ8 Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rMwPZ8/by_merchant/ CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Amazon UK) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£100.00 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard (£108.90 @ More Computers) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£143.98 @ More Computers) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£86.99 @ Ebuyer) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.99 @ Aria PC) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£53.99 @ Aria PC) Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8GB Video Card (£479.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case (£84.37 @ Box Limited) Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£104.96 @ Box Limited) Total: £1397.16 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 19:37 BST+0100 What are the main differences between the vega 64 and the gtx 1080? Also, is there a noticable difference between the ryzen 5 and ryzen 7? And is the liquid cooler worth it when not overclocking? Ohh and @Sage_Masters: Of course the cheaper the better, but he still wants a really good current pc. Thanks a lot for the help so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, rawberry said: What are the main differences between the vega 64 and the gtx 1080? Also, is there a noticable difference between the ryzen 5 and ryzen 7? And is the liquid cooler worth it when not overclocking? Ohh and @Sage_Masters: Of course the cheaper the better, but he still wants a really good current pc. Thanks a lot for the help so far! I think its a little cheaper is why, still very good performance in the end. It depends on what your doing with them, if he just plans to game a ryzen 5 1600 will do perfect. Not really no. The geek himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 What are the main differences between the vega 64 and the gtx 1080? Also, is there a noticable difference between the ryzen 5 and ryzen 7? I have the same issue, i already have ryzen 7 1700 + gtx 1080 not sure if i should change to ryzen 5 1600 all that i need is a pc gaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, rawberry said: Hello, I'm helping a friend of mine build a new gaming PC, because his old one is more than 5 years old. His budget is ~1500-1600€, there's no need for an OS, a monitor or any peripherals. We're both from germany. Here's the build so far: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor (€300.78 @ Mindfactory) CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€153.94 @ Mindfactory) Motherboard: ASRock - X370 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (€151.94 @ Mindfactory) Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€149.34 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€99.39 @ Mindfactory) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (€527.84 @ Mindfactory) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case (€114.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€74.84 @ Mindfactory) Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer (€16.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1687.23Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 20:06 CEST+0200 Are there any parts that we should change? In particular I'm never really sure about the motherboard, is the one we chose good? We also have a question about the ssd, would it be worth it to get an NVMe ssd or is the performance upgrade neglectable? He'll be using the ssd as a boot drive and put some frequently used software and games on there. Another question we have is the CPU cooler, is it worth it to get a liquid cooler if we don't plan on overclocking the cpu? If not we'll be getting an air cooler, any suggestions on quiet ones? We can also swap out the case if there are any similar priced ones that are more quiet or have a better build quality, he doesn't really care how the case looks as long as it's black and quiet. That's pretty much it, if you have any feedback or suggestions, please let me know! buy 1 single 2 terabyte Hard drive Get a cheaper X370 board and do you need the DVD drive Ex frequent user here, still check in here occasionally. I stopped being a weeb in 2018 lol For a reply please quote or @Eduard the weeb me Xayah Main in Lol, trying to learn Drums and guitar. Know how to film do photography, can do basic video editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, rawberry said: What are the main differences between the vega 64 and the gtx 1080? Also, is there a noticable difference between the ryzen 5 and ryzen 7? And is the liquid cooler worth it when not overclocking? Ohh and @Sage_Masters: Of course the cheaper the better, but he still wants a really good current pc. Thanks a lot for the help so far! water cooling is like ummm it is kinda cool but really air cooling is safer, cheaper and not much of a performance difference. Ex frequent user here, still check in here occasionally. I stopped being a weeb in 2018 lol For a reply please quote or @Eduard the weeb me Xayah Main in Lol, trying to learn Drums and guitar. Know how to film do photography, can do basic video editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, Being Delirious said: I think its a little cheaper is why, still very good performance in the end. It depends on what your doing with them, if he just plans to game a ryzen 5 1600 will do perfect. Not really no. The cheapest vega 64 I can find here in germany is around 600€, while the 1080 I linked in the initial post is 520€. I also heard that the power consumption is a lot higher with the vega 64. Would you still recommend getting the vega? The ryzen 5 1600 seems like the better choice for cpu then, since he'll mostly be gaming on the machine. And do you have any recommendations for a good air cooler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, rawberry said: The cheapest vega 64 I can find here in germany is around 600€, while the 1080 I linked in the initial post is 520€. I also heard that the power consumption is a lot higher with the vega 64. Would you still recommend getting the vega? The ryzen 5 1600 seems like the better choice for cpu then, since he'll mostly be gaming on the machine. And do you have any recommendations for a good air cooler? yeah right now VEgas are more exspensive then there counter parts due to lack of stock in them with not meany out and AMd fanboys fighting to have them I would stick with the 1080 tbh. Ex frequent user here, still check in here occasionally. I stopped being a weeb in 2018 lol For a reply please quote or @Eduard the weeb me Xayah Main in Lol, trying to learn Drums and guitar. Know how to film do photography, can do basic video editing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, tyrage said: What are the main differences between the vega 64 and the gtx 1080? Also, is there a noticable difference between the ryzen 5 and ryzen 7? I have the same issue, i already have ryzen 7 1700 + gtx 1080 not sure if i should change to ryzen 5 1600 all that i need is a pc gaming The GTX 1080 seems better in gaming than Vega 64 you dont need to change from 1700 to 1600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, Eduard the weeb said: buy 1 single 2 terabyte Hard drive Get a cheaper X370 board and do you need the DVD drive We want to run the harddrives in raid1, if he needs more space we'll just get an additional harddrive. Yes he wants to have a dvd drive for cds and so on. Which motherboard would you recommend then, with an ryzen 5 1600 instead of an ryzen 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Dont get the Gaming X It is a gamble which batch you get. One is total garbage and one is good. Get Asus Prime X370 Pro. Don't buy Apple M1 computers with 8GB of RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, rawberry said: We want to run the harddrives in raid1, if he needs more space we'll just get an additional harddrive. Yes he wants to have a dvd drive for cds and so on. Which motherboard would you recommend then, with an ryzen 5 1600 instead of an ryzen 7? Strix B350-F, MSI B350 Carbon/Krait Don't buy Apple M1 computers with 8GB of RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, dave_k said: Dont get the Gaming X It is a gamble which batch you get. One is total garbage and one is good. Get Asus Prime X370 Pro. how about asus b350 plus prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 20, 2017 Author PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€199.90 @ Caseking) CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Shadow Rock 2 51.4 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler (€43.99 @ Aquatuning) Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€149.34 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€95.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€48.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (€527.84 @ Mindfactory) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case (€114.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€74.84 @ Mindfactory) Optical Drive: LG - GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer (€16.20 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1320.97Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 21:03 CEST+0200 How about something like this? Changed it to an 1600, the Strix B350-F and a Shadow Rock 2 air cooler instead of an liquid cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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