3monitor gaming rig

[Fyne]

Hello,
I´m now member from this forum for a couple of months and saw alot of nice post. ( Especially in the build logs )
In the beginning of 2014 i'm planning to build my own game rig.
I'm looking for 3monitors which will work together. I prefer borderless monitors when that is possible but no need.
Which monitors you will recommend? Together with sli or crossfire cards?

Greetings,




 

[Andrew0472]

budget for monitors and gpus?

[WoodenMarker]

AMD's eyefinity is better than Nvidia's surround.

I'd recommend 2 290's if you can afford it.

 

Where are you shopping/located? Budget?

Are there any other peripherals you need? Need a copy of Windows?

[Fyne]

I have a high budget. So it doesn't really matter. Just wondering which you will recommend. Ofcrouse not 1000euro each monitor. that would be crazy. Best price/preformance would be very helpfull

[Andrew0472]

I have a high budget. So it doesn't really matter. Just wondering which you will recommend. Ofcrouse not 1000euro each monitor. that would be crazy. Best price/preformance would be very helpfull

i would just get 2 r9-290 gpus when the aftermarket ones come out and grab 3 1080p monitors. The cards could push higher res but the price would get too high

[WoodenMarker]

I have a high budget. So it doesn't really matter. Just wondering which you will recommend. Ofcrouse not 1000euro each monitor. that would be crazy. Best price/preformance would be very helpfull

The parts that are available as well as pricing depends on where you're shopping/located. 

If we don't know that, we'd have to shoot blindly.

You need to quote a post or tag a member or else they won't get a notification you replied to them.

 

Rough budget is also suggested before quad 780 Ti's and 1TB ssd's are thrown at you by the bucketful.

[MisterZero]

*Troll*

Yes quad 780Ti is really needed and for Nvidia surround you will need to have mismatched monitors of different resolutions!

*/Troll*

 

Indeed, as WoodenMarker said, we need a rough idea of your budget, and AMD's eyefinity is a tid better because you can have different brands monitor as long as they are same resolution.

 

Dual R9 290 with aftermarket cooler seems the best option to me as well.

 

Hope this helped,

Greets.

 

(Guys please don't kill me if I'm wrong, I am totally unaware of AMD multi monitor technology since I'm on an Nvidia GPU, and game with only one monitor)

 

 

The parts that are available as well as pricing depends on where you're shopping/located. 

If we don't know that, we'd have to shoot blindly.

You need to quote a post or tag a member or else they won't get a notification you replied to them.

 

Rough budget is also suggested before quad 780 Ti's and 1TB ssd's are thrown at you by the bucketful.

 

[WoodenMarker]

Indeed, as WoodenMarker said, we need a rough idea of your budget, and AMD's eyefinity is a tid better because you can have different brands monitor as long as they are same resolution.

Dual R9 290 with aftermarket cooler seems the best option to me as well.

Eyefinity just works more easily and with less issues than Surround. It's not just the tidbit about being able to use different monitors.

[Titanicium]

Eyefinity just works more easily and with less issues than Surround. It's not just the tidbit about being able to use different monitors.

 

If I am not wrong you can also have 6 monitors in Eyefinity while you can only have 3 monitors with one auxiliary in Surround?

 

Btw: Why is Eyefinity less trouble and how bad are the problems of Surround?

[WoodenMarker]

If I am not wrong you can also have 6 monitors in Eyefinity while you can only have 3 monitors with one auxiliary in Surround?

Btw: Why is Eyefinity less trouble and how bad are the problems of Surround?

Yes, up to 6. AS for surround, it's 3 and 1 more as an auxiliary display. 

Surround just has more problems like video applications maximizing to all 3 screens, apps not opening to the correct display, applications not moving when the window is dragged.

I'm not sure if these issues have been fixed recently though.

[Titanicium]

Yes, up to 6. AS for surround, it's 3 and 1 more as an auxiliary display. 

Surround just has more problems like video applications maximizing to all 3 screens, apps not opening to the correct display, applications not moving when the window is dragged.

I'm not sure if these issues have been fixed recently though.

 

Hmm interesting...

 

Thanks for lettiing me know never the less!

[geogga]

Since GPUs are covered by above fellows, I'll talk a bit about monitors.

For monitors, unless you're a total gamer get a 60Hz one with a IPS panel. It's has better image quality over TN panels but has less HZ. I'm also going to assume you want to VESA mount, either to a wall or for a stand, so don't forget that either.

You gotta give more details as well. Do u want a 24" or 27", or 1080 or 1440p?

1440p(27") monitors are more costlier than 1080p(24") btw.

I really don't recommend getting 27"1080. Not sure about 1200p 24" tho.

[Fyne]

Since GPUs are covered by above fellows, I'll talk a bit about monitors.

For monitors, unless you're a total gamer get a 60Hz one with a IPS panel. It's has better image quality over TN panels but has less HZ. I'm also going to assume you want to VESA mount, either to a wall or for a stand, so don't forget that either.

You gotta give more details as well. Do u want a 24" or 27", or 1080 or 1440p?

1440p(27") monitors are more costlier than 1080p(24") btw.

I really don't recommend getting 27"1080. Not sure about 1200p 24" tho.

I thought 3times a 27inch monitor but heard that its getting to much? 24inch would be nice tbh.

1080 is enough these days. But what are the options with 1440p monitors cq videocards? Does the cards from now support 1440p monitors? And do you see the difference?

The price each monitor is max 350euro. Will buy myself a big corner desk, and have to find out my self what the nicest way is to game on. When i mount then on the wall or put them on a stand.

 

 

The parts that are available as well as pricing depends on where you're shopping/located. 

If we don't know that, we'd have to shoot blindly.

You need to quote a post or tag a member or else they won't get a notification you replied to them.

 

Rough budget is also suggested before quad 780 Ti's and 1TB ssd's are thrown at you by the bucketful.

 

I live in Europe. So i have to pay with euro. thinking about 2000euro for game rig.

And max 350euro for each monitor. 

I would go for 2cards not more unless it's possible in my budget.

What about the new r9 290x cards and there preformance with 3monitors.

Is nvidea going to bring out new cards begin next year? Would be shitty when i bought 780ti's. And after a month there is a new model.

[geogga]

To go from 1080 to 1440 means a stronger GPU and more memory(GGDR5). I hear that the the difference is noticeable, with more pixels and larger screen.

I'd personally stay at 1080 24", so that means you don't have to get as powerful GPU as you would when playing on 1440p. And you said 1080 is enough and 24" is nice. But one thing you didn't mention is whether you want better image quality or more HZ( more fluidity and smoother). But it's controversial, as some notice it and some don't.

Xfire 290s are a bit too much for 1080, but they will be sure to max out any game including BF4 and 5, so a temporary "future proof" card. I don't recommend more than 3 cards because it is a bit stupid, and adding a 3 cardc results in the performance increase to be less than adding a second card.

I recommend 3 GB GPUs. 4GB version of GPUs are around 40-50 more than the 2GB version.

Maxwell GPUs are set to release in Q1 2014, so around the 700 series' release date.

[WoodenMarker]

I thought 3times a 27inch monitor but heard that its getting to much? 24inch would be nice tbh.

1080 is enough these days. But what are the options with 1440p monitors cq videocards? Does the cards from now support 1440p monitors? And do you see the difference?

The price each monitor is max 350euro. Will buy myself a big corner desk, and have to find out my self what the nicest way is to game on. When i mount then on the wall or put them on a stand.

 

I live in Europe. So i have to pay with euro. thinking about 2000euro for game rig.

And max 350euro for each monitor. 

I would go for 2cards not more unless it's possible in my budget.

What about the new r9 290x cards and there preformance with 3monitors.

Is nvidea going to bring out new cards begin next year? Would be shitty when i bought 780ti's. And after a month there is a new model.

cq?

You'd be hard pressed to find a card now that doesn't support 1440p. The difference is huge.

Where are in Europe are you? Just 'Europe' is too broad to know what shops you can use. 

The 290x isn't worth the money over the much cheaper 290 which is basically the same card.

Nvidia is coming out with new cards. They'll always be coming out with new cards. The same goes for AMD. If you're always waiting, you'll never buy anything. 

[geogga]

Yes, the X version of the R9 cards are just stupid. Dumb AMD marketing did not fool anyone.

Hey woodenmarker, how huge is the difference? I can't find any differences online, and haven't checked YouTube yet.

[Fyne]

To go from 1080 to 1440 means a stronger GPU and more memory(GGDR5). I hear that the the difference is noticeable, with more pixels and larger screen.

I'd personally stay at 1080 24", so that means you don't have to get as powerful GPU as you would when playing on 1440p. And you said 1080 is enough and 24" is nice. But one thing you didn't mention is whether you want better image quality or more HZ( more fluidity and smoother). But it's controversial, as some notice it and some don't.

Xfire 290s are a bit too much for 1080, but they will be sure to max out any game including BF4 and 5, so a temporary "future proof" card. I don't recommend more than 3 cards because it is a bit stupid, and adding a 3 cardc results in the performance increase to be less than adding a second card.

I recommend 3 GB GPUs. 4GB version of GPUs are around 40-50 more than the 2GB version.

Maxwell GPUs are set to release in Q1 2014, so around the 700 series' release date.

If 1440p really makes a difference i would like to have some recommandaties what kind of monitors are nice to use in a 3monitor setting.

Since i´m a gamer i´d like to go for better image quality. Around 350euro each monitor. 24inch would be nice. Or do you know people who have experience wich bigger monitors in a 3screen setting?

[Fyne]

cq?

You'd be hard pressed to find a card now that doesn't support 1440p. The difference is huge.

Where are in Europe are you? Just 'Europe' is too broad to know what shops you can use. 

The 290x isn't worth the money over the much cheaper 290 which is basically the same card.

Nvidia is coming out with new cards. They'll always be coming out with new cards. The same goes for AMD. If you're always waiting, you'll never buy anything. 

I'm living in the Netherlands. The cards are not going to be a problem. I think i will get the new 290's.

I'm  wondering now since we talked about 1440p monitors and the difference. Which you will suggest? 3 monitors of 24inch is good in my opinion or do you recommend bigger?

Like i said above i would like a monitor with better image quality because i will use it mostly for games. 350euro max each screen.

But i read another forum and there they were talking aboug higher hz monitors will reduce the lag?

I also heard that 1440p monitors get better pictures but the fps will be alot less?

[LifesCompanion]

I'm living in the Netherlands. The cards are not going to be a problem. I think i will get the new 290's.

I'm  wondering now since we talked about 1440p monitors and the difference. Which you will suggest? 3 monitors of 24inch is good in my opinion or do you recommend bigger?

Like i said above i would like a monitor with better image quality because i will use it mostly for games. 350euro max each screen.

But i read another forum and there they were talking aboug higher hz monitors will reduce the lag?

I also heard that 1440p monitors get better pictures but the fps will be alot less?

If you plan to game on multiple displays, three 1440P monitors will most likely destroy your FPS, that being said I'm not sure how dual 290's perform in an Eyefinity set up at 1440P x3 but to be safe, I would get three 1080P moniors. 

As for screen size, anything bigger than 24 inch in a surround set up is point less (IMO) since you won't be able to see the monitors. 

 

Regarding the relation between Hz and lag... to put it simply, it's bs. Most IPS monitors are clocked at 60Hz which more than enough (you can get overclocked IPS panels though - yes, ocing monitors does exist). The only difference between the "gaming" monitors (TN panels, 120/144Hz, etc.) and an IPS panel monitor is image quality (IPS > TN) 

 

[geogga]

I'm pretty sure the lag has to do with response time. Like 5ms gtg or black to white.

like I told you, when upgrading from 1080 to 1440, your FPS average will drop around 20 FPS.

IPS panels are more beautiful, (I have a MX239H and it has a AH-IPS, one of the better IPS type panels) and when sacrificing that for a 120HZ TN panel, there is no "lag", only a increase in smoothness and fluidity.

I'm American so I'm estimating £350to be around $500 which seems a tad bit less for the norm for 1440p panels.

I have OCed my panel from 60 to 74hz, and I may have seen an increase in smoothness, but I h aven't experienced true 120HZ and I wouldn't risk smoothness over images quality.

Two 290s will be plentiful.

[Lays]

-snip-

 

 

I agree with this except after seeing some titan 2-3-4 way SLI benchmarks at 7680x1440, I think dual 290's will struggle if settings aren't turned down on certain AAA titles

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1415441/7680x1440-benchmarks-plus-2-3-4-way-sli-gk110-scaling

[geogga]

Oh wow, that's interesting...I am a bit wrong on the 290, you're right.

I haven't really seen bf4 benchmarks as of late, too busy with school and swimming, playing bf4 and looking at the tons of deals lately.

So OP what are your thoughts now, are 1440p monitors worth it or will u stick with 1080?

[geogga]

Found a pic with the 290s, 780s and the TI versions.

[WoodenMarker]

Yes, the X version of the R9 cards are just stupid. Dumb AMD marketing did not fool anyone.

Hey woodenmarker, how huge is the difference? I can't find any differences online, and haven't checked YouTube yet.

Difference between what? 290 and 290x? Pretty much negligible.

I'm living in the Netherlands. The cards are not going to be a problem. I think i will get the new 290's.

I'm  wondering now since we talked about 1440p monitors and the difference. Which you will suggest? 3 monitors of 24inch is good in my opinion or do you recommend bigger?

Like i said above i would like a monitor with better image quality because i will use it mostly for games. 350euro max each screen.

But i read another forum and there they were talking aboug higher hz monitors will reduce the lag?

I also heard that 1440p monitors get better pictures but the fps will be alot less?

What shops are you using?

Triple 23-24" should be plenty. 27" is great but it depends on whether or not you can fit it. Measure out how much space you have.

Higher frequency makes a smoother picture but you often have to sacrifice color quality and viewing angles of a nice IPS panel to get a high frequency TN panel. no worth it imo. 

1440p has more pixels than 1080p. You get less fps because your system has to work much harder to get the same number of frames.

I'm pretty sure the lag has to do with response time. Like 5ms gtg or black to white.

Response times are pretty much irrelevant. It's the latency between the video card and the monitor that causes any relevant lag.

Found a pic with the 290s, 780s and the TI versions.

Pretty sure these are stock and quite irrelevant because of that.

[geogga]

Wood, I wanted to show him the FPS drops from 1080 to 1440p on cards that he might choose.

The other video cards are stock because this was a review on the gigabyte 780Ti GHz edition, but chose the chart because ^

 

When I asked for the difference, I wanted to know how big of a difference1440p is from 1080p.

 

I appreciate that you clarified some stuff for me.