Help with skyrim mod optimization

[thatguyjerry]

not sure if this is the proper place to post for help with this, but I am getting a lot of CTD with my skyrim and I run a lot of mods. I use LOOT but I believe I read somewhere in another forum before that tools like MO not only alter the loading order of mods but the priority of their memory allocation or something? As you can tell, I'm not terribly experienced with this and mostly rely on NMM and LOOT to pull all the weight even though there are plenty of personal tweaks I need to make myself, I just don't really know how to go about them. I will post my load order below, a lot of them are textures overwriting other textures and whatnot, all of which have been optimized with Ordenador, but I also think I have a couple of animation mods without FNIS in place  need to fix that I know.

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
  3  3 Skyrim Project Optimization.esm
  4  4 Falskaar.esm
  5  5 moonpath.esm
  6  6 ApachiiHair.esm
  7  7 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  8  8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
  9  9 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
 10  a HighResTexturePack01.esp
 11  b HighResTexturePack02.esp
 12  c HighResTexturePack03.esp
 13  d Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 14  e The Dance of Death.esp
 15  f art_argonian_2016_sp0.esp
 16 10 art_nord_2016_sp0.esp
 17 11 art_orc_sp0.esp
 18 12 art_breton_sp0.esp
 19 13 RelightingSkyrim.esp
 20 14 Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp
 21 15 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
 22 16 Helgen Reborn.esp
 23 17 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
 24 18 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 25 19 spawners_weightless_books_nodlc.esp
 26 1a art_highelf_lop_sp0.esp
 27 1b xce.esp
 28 1c NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
 29 1d RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
 30 1e AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
 31 1f Differently Ebony.esp
 32 20 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
 33 21 Convenient Horses.esp
 34 22 High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp
 35 23 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
 36 24 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 37 25 spawners_weightless_potions_nodlc.esp
 38 26 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 39 27 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
 40 28 IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp
 41 29 Duel - Combat Realism.esp
 42 2a ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
 43 2b Intro music replacement by Malukah.esp
 44 2c mainmenuimage4.esp
 45 2d musicpack.esp
 46 2e spawners_weightless_berenziah.esp
 47 2f spawners_weightless_dragonscalesandbones.esp
 48 30 spawners_weightless_ingots_and_ores_nodlc.esp
 49 31 spawners_weightless_preciousstones.esp
 50 32 spawners_weightless_soulgems.esp
 51 33 lockpickpro.esp
 52 34 spawners_10xrichermerchants.esp
 53 35 MoneyPress.esp
 54 36 smithfarmirondagger.esp
 55 37 SkyUI.esp
 56 38 FreeCraftingCheat.esp
 57 39 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
 58 3a black mage armor.esp
 59 3b soulgemchests.esp
 60 3c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 61 3d Enhanced 3rd Person Camera V1.0.esp
 62 3e Dual Sheath Redux.esp
 63 3f barenziahquestmarkers.esp
 64 40 allmarkersvisible_en.esp
 65 41 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
 66 42 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp
 67 43 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 68 44 Improved Artifacts - No DLC Collection.esp
 69 45 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
 70 46 SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp
 71 47 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 72 48 Immersive Weapons.esp
 73 49 High Level Enemies.esp
 74 4a art_woodelf_sp0.esp
 75 4b Run For Your Lives.esp
 76 4c longbows.esp
 77 4d quest_thebiggertheyare.esp
 78 4e Soul Gem Vendors.esp
 79 4f BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp
 80 50 art_darkelf_sp0.esp
 81 51 art_imperial_sp0.esp
 82 52 art_khajiit_sp0.esp
 83 53 art_redguard_sp0.esp
 84 54 art_no_jump_bonus_sp0.esp
 85 55 VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp
 86 56 QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
 87 57 quest_nomercy.esp
 88 58 moonpath_questdata.esp
 89 59 quest_seaofghosts.esp
 90 5a SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
 91 5b Religion.esp
 92 5c Immersive Patrols II.esp
 93 5d tos_amber_guard.esp
 94 5e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 95 5f Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
 96 60 tos_granitehall.esp
 97 61 quest_sorcery.esp
 98 62 ForgottenCity.esp
 99 63 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
100 64 quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp
101 65 Sheogoraths Rabbit Hole.esp
102 66 blacksmithsstoragebymrsaibot.esp
103 67 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
104 68 ESFCompanions.esp
105 69 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
106 6a Armored Skeleton.esp
107 6b SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
108 6c spawners_weightless_ingredients_nodlc.esp
109 6d spawners_weightless_scrolls_nodlc.esp
110 6e spawners_weightless_hidesandpelts_nodlc.esp
111 6f spawners_weightless_tools_nodlc.esp
112 70 SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
113 71 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
114 72 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
115 73 arrow.esp
116 74 ScopedBows.esp
117 75 Unique Uniques.esp
118 76 DCR_KingCrusaderArmor.esp
119 77 wanderer armor.esp
120 78 ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
121 79 IngredientsSupplyChest.esp
122 7a PerkPointPotion.esp
123 7b TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
124 7c lights.esp
125 7d CinematicFireFX.esp
126 7e Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
127 7f Skysan_Icicle.esp
128 80 Unique Grasses.esp
129 81 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
130 82 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp
131 83 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
132 84 SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp
133 85 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
134 86 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp
135 87 skilllevelspeed.esp
       Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
136 88 IceBreaker's Improved Reverb v0.025.esp
137 89 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
138 8a dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
139 8b dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
140 8c ELE_S_Lite.esp
141 8d ELE_Fs_Lite.esp
142 8e Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
 

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

[JoostinOnline]

First off, make sure you clean the DLC. LOOT will tell you what needs to be cleaned. Second, keep in mind that each time you add or remove a mod it makes the save more unstable. That wasn't true with Oblivion, but times have changed. 

[thatguyjerry]

3 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

First off, make sure you clean the DLC. LOOT will tell you what needs to be cleaned. Second, keep in mind that each time you add or remove a mod it makes the save more unstable. That wasn't true with Oblivion, but times have changed. 

I don't use any DLC, just the vanilla game. Also, did not know that about the save  my files probably all messed up rn. I've gotten that "this save relies on content no longer available" message multiple times. Is it possible to re-stabilize with console commands like reset inventory and whatnot?

 

Edit: I've also done all the cleaning that LOOT has told me to do, so maybe my files is just too screwed.

[KostWarCZE]

In this situation i normally tag all mods in Google Docs like "Texture", "Combat", etc..

Then if there's any problem with two textures which load in same time and blink though each other i just open mods which have this "abilities" in editor (Notepad++, VisualStudio, etc..) and remove update string (if there's any) and remove string with textures (for example). 

As far as i know this is the only way how to fix that much mods and optimize them.

[thatguyjerry]

6 minutes ago, KostWarCZE said:

Then if there's any problem with two textures which load in same time and blink though each other i just open mods which have this "abilities" in editor (Notepad++, VisualStudio, etc..) and remove update string (if there's any) and remove string with textures (for example). 

Do you mean like multiple textures for the same file? Isn't that fixed by NMM when installing the mod by manual overwrites?

[KostWarCZE]

5 minutes ago, thatguyjerry said:

Do you mean like multiple textures for the same file? Isn't that fixed by NMM when installing the mod by manual overwrites?

Should be fixed by NWM, but if you using LOOT with it and other platforms or if its marked like (example) "grass1" "grass2" for grass object. it still could make problems. 

Source: happend to me a lot of time.

[ScratchCat]

If you don't have it already I would recommend the 4gb patch. It should help with many CTDs due to lack of memory due to larger than vanilla skyrim HD textures.

 

Also the skyrim unofficial patch should go after any ".esm" files as it is an ".esp" (elder scrolls master /plugin respectively) unless the developer explicitly tells you to.