$750 setup, any thoughts?

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, MegaVoltz said:

What does that mean?

How about this one?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438100&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817438100&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt5SKh-CW1gIVwh6GCh3OOg_CEAYYASABEgLyV_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

The easiest to use reference is the PSU tier list here on the forum. Tier 1-3 are recommended. 

[MegaVoltz]

Thank you! Very much appreciated

[DocSwag]

56 minutes ago, MegaVoltz said:

CX650 has 4.3 stars compared to the 4.5 on the 600B.

It's also a lot more expensive. EVGA units are rock-solid reliable. No one I've ever talked to has had a bad experience with them.

What about this?

 

Stars means "people that are extremely uneducated about psus think the 600b is better than the cx650."

 

EVGA units aren't all good. Their N1 PSUs are literal garbage. The one you linked is an N1. Basically it's literal garbage.

 

If you look at any good psu reviews you'll see the cx psus have vastly better voltage regulation and ripple than the 600b.

 

Also you don't need 600 watts, so you could get a cx550 instead.

[MegaVoltz]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Stars means "people that are extremely uneducated about psus think the 600b is better than the cx650."

 

EVGA units aren't all good. Their N1 PSUs are literal garbage. The one you linked is an N1. Basically it's literal garbage.

 

If you look at any good psu reviews you'll see the cx psus have vastly better voltage regulation and ripple than the 600b.

 

Also you don't need 600 watts, so you could get a cx550 instead.

Gonna upgrade in the future boi

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, MegaVoltz said:

Gonna upgrade in the future boi

Upgrade what, the psu?

[MegaVoltz]

15 hours ago, DocSwag said:

Upgrade what, the psu?

Yes LOL

no, obviously having more wattage is better if you plan to not upgrade your power supply for a while. It also lets the fan run at a lower speed due to not using all of the PSU's wattage.

[DocSwag]

Just now, MegaVoltz said:

Yes LOL

no, obviously having more wattage is better if you plan to not upgrade your power supply for a while. It also lets the fan run at a lower speed due to not using all of the PSU's wattage.

The psu is worse quality though. By a fair amount.

 

The fan rpm difference is gonna be so little you probably won't notice. If anything the fan itself will make more of a difference.

[MegaVoltz]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

The psu is worse quality though. By a fair amount.

 

The fan rpm difference is gonna be so little you probably won't notice. If anything the fan itself will make more of a difference.

The EVGA BQ series is one tier above the 500/600B though. I simply can't AFFORD the higher-end ones.

[seon123]

Just now, MegaVoltz said:

The EVGA BQ series is one tier above the 500/600B though. I simply can't AFFORD the higher-end ones.

The CX is fairly good and cheap

[MegaVoltz]

Just now, seon123 said:

The CX is fairly good and cheap

50 less watts and non-modular while being only one tier higher and more expensive? I'd rather go with the 600BQ.

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, MegaVoltz said:

50 less watts and non-modular while being only one tier higher and more expensive? I'd rather go with the 600BQ.

The CX is tier 3 because of its sleeve bearing fan. If it wasn't sleeve bearing, it would be tier 2. And 550W is already overkill. Even if you upgrade to let's say a 1080 Ti, You would be looking at a power draw of around 400W. Assuming you overclock both the CPU and GPU. If you want a modular PSU, just get the CXM instead. 

[MegaVoltz]

11 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The CX is tier 3 because of its sleeve bearing fan. If it wasn't sleeve bearing, it would be tier 2. And 550W is already overkill. Even if you upgrade to let's say a 1080 Ti, You would be looking at a power draw of around 400W. Assuming you overclock both the CPU and GPU. If you want a modular PSU, just get the CXM instead. 

CXM is even more expensive than that.

Also, what if I was upgrading to an r7 1700 and a 1080 ti, both overclocked with 16 gigs of ram and a bunch of peripherals, monitors, hard drives, fan controllers and stuff? I calculated it on CoolerMaster's psu wattage calculator and it came to slightly over 540 watts.

It has all the features I want. Fully sleeved black cables, 80+ bronze rating, 600 watts, a solid review on johnnyguru,

 

 

"Performance (40% of the final score) - while the 600 BQ was not the best performer I have ever seen, it didn't do a half bad job at all, I reckon. Efficiency was well above Bronze targets at all times, so no deduction there. Ripple control was a similar story... not the best ever, but still good enough to get by without a deduction. However, voltage stability was only average, managing 2.7% in the hot box. That's a full two point deduction, because we are a fair distance from mythic level in this regard. With no other performance issues needing scoring on, we come up with an 8 here.

Functionality (20% of the final score) - I have two deductions only to make here. First, that Berg connector loses half a point. Second, the unit is only semi-modular, so half a point comes off there, too. And there we stop. EVGA threw in so many extra goodies that no points come off for accessories, and we had way more than enough cables and connectors for a unit this size. They did good, here. 9.

Value (20% of the final score) - $72.98 is the going rate for these at Newegg right now. It has some competition around that dollar level, mostly with Rosewill. However, that's the bad news... the Capstone G is two dollars more money and 80 Plus Gold. Yeah, you'd be buying a somewhat bland performing Enhance built unit, but I personally prefer them as an OEM to HEC, and in this case you're going up in efficiency in the bargain. Two dollars difference? That is when you can justify Gold over Bronze (or Silver, as the case may be for some of these). And there's the other thing... Corsair's CX750 along with EVGA's own B1 unit are both cheaper than this one by seven bucks. Not an especially good value, this unit. 6.5.

Build Quality (20% of the final score) - I'm taking half a point for capacitors and half a point for the weirdness on the bridge rectifier traces. Since the power cord is not too small for the current draw I saw through it, that is all. 9."

 

"Performance
    

8

Functionality
    

9

Value
    

6.5

Build Quality
    

9
Total Score

8.1"

 

Not to mention it's actually less expensive than it was when it was reviewed. I'd say it would get at least a total of 8.7. Good enough for me.

[seon123]

5 minutes ago, MegaVoltz said:

CXM is even more expensive than that.

Also, what if I was upgrading to an r7 1700 and a 1080 ti, both overclocked with 16 gigs of ram and a bunch of peripherals, monitors, hard drives, fan controllers and stuff? I calculated it on CoolerMaster's psu wattage calculator and it came to slightly over 540 watts.

It has all the features I want. Fully sleeved black cables, 80+ bronze rating, 600 watts, a solid review on johnnyguru,

 

 

"Performance (40% of the final score) - while the 600 BQ was not the best performer I have ever seen, it didn't do a half bad job at all, I reckon. Efficiency was well above Bronze targets at all times, so no deduction there. Ripple control was a similar story... not the best ever, but still good enough to get by without a deduction. However, voltage stability was only average, managing 2.7% in the hot box. That's a full two point deduction, because we are a fair distance from mythic level in this regard. With no other performance issues needing scoring on, we come up with an 8 here.

Functionality (20% of the final score) - I have two deductions only to make here. First, that Berg connector loses half a point. Second, the unit is only semi-modular, so half a point comes off there, too. And there we stop. EVGA threw in so many extra goodies that no points come off for accessories, and we had way more than enough cables and connectors for a unit this size. They did good, here. 9.

Value (20% of the final score) - $72.98 is the going rate for these at Newegg right now. It has some competition around that dollar level, mostly with Rosewill. However, that's the bad news... the Capstone G is two dollars more money and 80 Plus Gold. Yeah, you'd be buying a somewhat bland performing Enhance built unit, but I personally prefer them as an OEM to HEC, and in this case you're going up in efficiency in the bargain. Two dollars difference? That is when you can justify Gold over Bronze (or Silver, as the case may be for some of these). And there's the other thing... Corsair's CX750 along with EVGA's own B1 unit are both cheaper than this one by seven bucks. Not an especially good value, this unit. 6.5.

Build Quality (20% of the final score) - I'm taking half a point for capacitors and half a point for the weirdness on the bridge rectifier traces. Since the power cord is not too small for the current draw I saw through it, that is all. 9."

 

"Performance
    

8

Functionality
    

9

Value
    

6.5

Build Quality
    

9
Total Score

8.1"

 

Not to mention it's actually less expensive than it was when it was reviewed. I'd say it would get at least a total of 8.7. Good enough for me.

If you can afford a 1700 and a 1080 Ti, you can afford a better PSU. And even in the use case you described, a good 450W unit would be fine. PSU calculators tend to overestimate the power draw by a lot. It's nearly as if they want to sell their more expensive PSUs. And Jonnyguru reviews aren't really that positive, unless they get a 9.0 at least. And since the review is nearly 2 years old, the score would be lower, due to the reviewer increasing the requirements to not get deducted. 

 

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, MegaVoltz said:

The EVGA BQ series is one tier above the 500/600B though. I simply can't AFFORD the higher-end ones.

CX is even better and usually relatively affordable.

57 minutes ago, MegaVoltz said:

CXM is even more expensive than that.

Also, what if I was upgrading to an r7 1700 and a 1080 ti, both overclocked with 16 gigs of ram and a bunch of peripherals, monitors, hard drives, fan controllers and stuff? I calculated it on CoolerMaster's psu wattage calculator and it came to slightly over 540 watts.

It has all the features I want. Fully sleeved black cables, 80+ bronze rating, 600 watts, a solid review on johnnyguru,

 

 

"Performance (40% of the final score) - while the 600 BQ was not the best performer I have ever seen, it didn't do a half bad job at all, I reckon. Efficiency was well above Bronze targets at all times, so no deduction there. Ripple control was a similar story... not the best ever, but still good enough to get by without a deduction. However, voltage stability was only average, managing 2.7% in the hot box. That's a full two point deduction, because we are a fair distance from mythic level in this regard. With no other performance issues needing scoring on, we come up with an 8 here.

Functionality (20% of the final score) - I have two deductions only to make here. First, that Berg connector loses half a point. Second, the unit is only semi-modular, so half a point comes off there, too. And there we stop. EVGA threw in so many extra goodies that no points come off for accessories, and we had way more than enough cables and connectors for a unit this size. They did good, here. 9.

Value (20% of the final score) - $72.98 is the going rate for these at Newegg right now. It has some competition around that dollar level, mostly with Rosewill. However, that's the bad news... the Capstone G is two dollars more money and 80 Plus Gold. Yeah, you'd be buying a somewhat bland performing Enhance built unit, but I personally prefer them as an OEM to HEC, and in this case you're going up in efficiency in the bargain. Two dollars difference? That is when you can justify Gold over Bronze (or Silver, as the case may be for some of these). And there's the other thing... Corsair's CX750 along with EVGA's own B1 unit are both cheaper than this one by seven bucks. Not an especially good value, this unit. 6.5.

Build Quality (20% of the final score) - I'm taking half a point for capacitors and half a point for the weirdness on the bridge rectifier traces. Since the power cord is not too small for the current draw I saw through it, that is all. 9."

 

"Performance
    

8

Functionality
    

9

Value
    

6.5

Build Quality
    

9
Total Score

8.1"

 

Not to mention it's actually less expensive than it was when it was reviewed. I'd say it would get at least a total of 8.7. Good enough for me.

If you go for an r7+1080 ti you probably should be getting a better psu than a 600b or BQ dude...

 

Plus 550w is still enough for a 1700+1080 ti