"Budget" 4k capable PC

[Sh0mix]

Just u quick disclaimer,I'm new to the forum so there is a high chance that I will make a mistake by posting this here(general) or do something else wrong and English is not my mother tongue, so keep that in mind please, thanks.

I was wondering,what would be the "best budget" build for a 4k capable pc. The main purpose would be 4k media streaming(so decent fps I guess) along with programming(university level and beyond afterwards). I don't play games at all so I really don't need 4k gaming experience for this build. So the question is, for how much money can you find a motherboard(with ssd support preferably), cpu, gpu and cooling parts(I don't mind some noise) for this kind of pc,thanks in advance for the help. 

[Himommies]

You need to provide us with a budget and location 

[Teddy07]

"budget" and "4k PC" are two things that do not go together

[Himommies]

Just now, Teddy07 said:

"budget" and "4k PC" are two things that do not go together

It's not for gaming 

[Sh0mix]

I don't want to sound stupid but this was more a hypothetical question rather than me wanting to buy pc soon. I'm interested in a "general" price for something like this. I live in Europe but my county is not in the EU. Prices here are bullshit and everything tech related is pretty much overpriced so I would buy components in some EU country.

[QuantumBit]

Just now, Sh0mix said:

I don't want to sound stupid but this was more a hypothetical question rather than me wanting to buy pc soon. I'm interested in a "general" price for something like this. I live in Europe but my county is not in the EU. Prices here are bullshit and everything tech related is pretty much overpriced so I would buy components in some EU country.

Then around $300, since I think a pentium g4560 can handle 4k video well, not sure what it would cost in europe but probably a bit more.

[Shiv78]

I think something like this would be fine, so around a $400 budget?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.87 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: *Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($63.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: *Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($25.49 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $325.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-22 17:56 EDT-0400

[Sh0mix]

3 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

I think something like this would be fine, so around a $400 budget?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($86.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.87 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: *Team - Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($63.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: *Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($25.49 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $325.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-22 17:56 EDT-0400

So you can stream 4k without dedicated gpu, didn't know that.

I kind of think that dual core and internal(cpu graphics?) would be insufficient in a 1 or 2 years so something with a quad core and gpu maybe?

Ssd(128gb) would be nice addition also. 

[QuantumBit]

Just now, Sh0mix said:

So you can stream 4k without dedicated gpu, didn't know that.

I kind of think that dual core and internal(cpu graphics?) would be insufficient in a 1 or 2 years so something with a quad core and gpu maybe?

Ssd(128gb) would be nice addition also. 

At that point your paying for a 1080p gaming system

[Sh0mix]

2 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

At that point your paying for a 1080p gaming system

Just a quick digression.

 

I have a laptop with:

HP 820D (U3E1) motherboard
i5 6300HQ 
8gb of ram
gtx 960m

 

I was wondering if it is possible to output 4k to external monitor? 

[QuantumBit]

1 minute ago, Sh0mix said:

Just a quick digression.

 

I have a laptop with:

HP 820D (U3E1) motherboard
i5 6300HQ 
8gb of ram
gtx 960m

 

I was wondering if it is possible to output 4k to external monitor? 

If it has the right ports you should be able to, why not just get any monitor, make the video 4k (i.e youtube, netflix) I think for 4k 60Hz, you need a HDMI 2.0 port.

[Zyndo]

23 minutes ago, Sh0mix said:

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It would depend on exactly what kind of "programming" you expect to be doing for university... but generally speaking, any 6th or 7th generation (soon to be 8th) Intel CPU with an iGPU (that is, a GPU inside of your CPU package, outputs located on the motherboard) can handle a 4k display. 4k is actually relatively easy to handle if you aren't drawing and calculating the image which needs to fill each pixel. If you're merely displaying a 4k image or a 4k video, its rather easy for hardware to do that.

 

1 minute ago, Sh0mix said:

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if your laptop has a 4k capable video out, the hardware can handle it just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Why the craze for 4k anyway? seems like not that big of a deal IMO.

[QuantumBit]

Just now, Zyndo said:

It would depend on exactly what kind of "programming" you expect to be doing for university... but generally speaking, any 6th or 7th generation (soon to be 8th) Intel CPU with an iGPU (that is, a GPU inside of your CPU package, outputs located on the motherboard) can handle a 4k display. 4k is actually relatively easy to handle if you aren't drawing and calculating the image which needs to fill each pixel. If you're merely displaying a 4k image or a 4k video, its rather easy for hardware to do that.

 

if your laptop has a 4k capable video out, the hardware can handle it just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Why the craze for 4k anyway? seems like not that big of a deal IMO.

4x the pixels of 1080p.

[Zyndo]

Just now, QuantumBit said:

4x the pixels of 1080p.

.... yes? and?

[QuantumBit]

Just now, Zyndo said:

.... yes? and?

You get a better image? 

[Sh0mix]

How do I find out if my laptop has 2.0 hdmi output? 

 

[Zyndo]

Just now, QuantumBit said:

You get a better image? 

of course. It just feels like since this guy sounds like hes on a pretty tight budget, and considering hes a university student (they don't have a lot of extra cash most of the time as it is) it feels like the kind of superfluous thing he really doesn't need to be spending money on. I spend most of my time with 1080p monitors and 720p TV's. I've used 4k versions of both. Obviously its better. Its tangibly better. But its not world changing-ly better. Its not "break the bank" better. Especially when you consider how relatively little content there is out there which is actually 4k, because streaming a 1080p youtube video or netflix movie is going to look identical on a 1080p screen to a 4k one.

 

I get the point of 4k, I just want to know why this guy seems so driven to get it. Feels like he got talked into it by a friend or some Best Buy derp or something like that.

[Zyndo]

Just now, Sh0mix said:

How do I find out if my laptop has 2.0 hdmi output? 

 

Look up your model on your manufacturers website, look for a spec sheet, and see what versions of video out your laptop has. RTFM if you have it.

[QuantumBit]

Just now, Zyndo said:

of course. It just feels like since this guy sounds like hes on a pretty tight budget, and considering hes a university student (they don't have a lot of extra cash most of the time as it is) it feels like the kind of superfluous thing he really doesn't need to be spending money on. I spend most of my time with 1080p monitors and 720p TV's. I've used 4k versions of both. Obviously its better. Its tangibly better. But its not world changing-ly better. Its not "break the bank" better. Especially when you consider how relatively little content there is out there which is actually 4k, because streaming a 1080p youtube video or netflix movie is going to look identical on a 1080p screen to a 4k one.

 

I get the point of 4k, I just want to know why this guy seems so driven to get it. Feels like he got talked into it by a friend or some Best Buy derp or something like that.

 

28 minutes ago, Sh0mix said:

I don't want to sound stupid but this was more a hypothetical question rather than me wanting to buy pc soon. I'm interested in a "general" price for something like this. I live in Europe but my county is not in the EU. Prices here are bullshit and everything tech related is pretty much overpriced so I would buy components in some EU country.

[Sh0mix]

I found out that my laptop has 2.0 hdmi but I read somewhere that a Dell laptop with same cpu and gpu somehow can't output 4k @60hz but only @30.

This is a ss from the forum,what do you guys think of it?

Edited August 22, 2017 by Sh0mix

[QuantumBit]

28 minutes ago, Sh0mix said:

I found out that my laptop has 2.0 hdmi but I read somewhere that a Dell laptop with same cpu and gpu somehow can't output 4k @60hz but only @30.

This is a ss from the forum,what do you guys think of it?

Well what do the replies say?

[Sanctorum]

3 hours ago, Teddy07 said:

"budget" and "4k PC" are two things that do not go together

That's not true.

 

OP- you don't need a dedicated GPU or a quad core CPU to stream 4k. Streaming 4k content is not hard. Buy a system with a Pentium G4560 and you're good to go. That said, you might want/require a better CPU for programming, depending on what exactly you'll be doing.