Which SSD is best?

[JoshPJ]

3 choices

samsung 850-EVO 250gb £84

crucial mx300 275gb £83

SK hynix sl308 250gb £79

[werto165]

I'd get the cruicial one most storage difference in ssd perf is minimal/next to impossible to tell the difference in normal work loads. 

[LienusLateTips]

850 EVO.

[JoshPJ]

 

Just now, JDE said:

850 EVO.

Reasoning?

[JoshPJ]

1 minute ago, werto165 said:

I'd get the cruicial one most storage difference in ssd perf is minimal/next to impossible to tell the difference in normal work loads. 

ok thanks 

[NinJake]

I have 3 Evo's I've purchased. 2 for my main rig 2 years ago. 1 for a laptop where I replaced the internal HDD, they are wonderfully reliable.

[rn8686]

850 Evo has the best performance, but the others will be close and are better value. 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, JoshPJ said:

 

Reasoning?

It's the fastest out of the bunch

[JoshPJ]

Just now, NinJake said:

I have 3 Evo's I've purchased. 2 for my main rig 2 years ago. 1 for a laptop where I replaced the internal HDD, they are wonderfully reliable.

Noted thank you

[JoshPJ]

1 minute ago, rn8686 said:

850 Evo has the best performance, but the others will be close and are better value. 

Extra 25gb or faster speed which is a better trade off?

[werto165]

2 minutes ago, JoshPJ said:

Noted thank you

ssds are insane these days...

 

SMART READ DATA
    Revision: 10
    Attributes List
      1: (SSD Raw Read Error Rate)               Normalized Rate:  95  Sectors Read: 75157136 Read Errors: 0
      5: (SSD Retired Block Count)               Spare blocks remaining 100%  Retired Block 0
      9: (SSD Power-On Hours)                    Value 86  Total 12896 hrs 35 mins
     12: (SSD Power Cycle Count)                 Power Cycle Life Remaining  98%  Number of power cycles 2282
    171: (SSD Program Fail Count)                Program Error Count 0
    172: (SSD Erase Fail Count)                  Erase Error Count 0
    174: (SSD Unexpected power loss count)       Unexpected power loss Count 205
    177: (Wear Range Delta)                      Wear Range Delta 4%
    181: (Program Fail Count)                    Program Error Count 0
    182: (Erase Fail Count)                      Erase Error Count 0
    187: (SSD Reported Uncorrectable Errors)     Normalized Value 100  lifetime URAISE Errors 0
    189: (Unrecognized Attribute)                Value:  44 Raw Data: 2c 00 4b 00 0c 00 00
    194: (SSD Temperature Monitoring)            Normalized temp 44   Current 44  High 75 Low 12
    195: (SSD ECC On-the-fly Count)              Normalized Value 120   Sectors Read 75157136  UECC Count 0
    196: (SSD Reallocation Event Count)          Normalized Value 100   Reallocation Event Count 0
    201: (SSD Uncorrectable Soft Read Error Rate)Normalized Value 120  Sectors Read 75157136  Uncorrectable Soft Error Count 0
    204: (SSD Soft ECC Correction Rate (RAISE)   Normalized Value 120  Sectors Read 75157136  Soft ECC Correction Count 0
    230: (SSD Life Curve Status)                 Normalized Value 100
    231: (SSD Life Left)                         Life Remaining 95%
    233: (SSD Internal Reserved)                 56178
    234: (SSD Internal Reserved)                 47242
    241: (SSD Lifetime writes from host)         lifetime writes   47242
    242: (SSD Lifetime reads from host)          lifetime reads   52253
this is the data from my SSD. Some get to a petabyte before dying.

 

http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

[m0k]

i own a crucial MX300 750gb ssd
its software is mature and still recieves firmware updates and is generally fine - i use it for my OS and RAW photo editing, and games

 

my brother uses a 250gb 860 EVO - and its also a solid drive

 

 

[rn8686]

Just now, JoshPJ said:

Extra 25gb or faster speed which is a better trade off?

Up to you, pretty happy with my 850 Evo. 

[JoshPJ]

Just now, werto165 said:

ssds are insane these days...

 

SMART READ DATA
    Revision: 10
    Attributes List
      1: (SSD Raw Read Error Rate)               Normalized Rate:  95  Sectors Read: 75157136 Read Errors: 0
      5: (SSD Retired Block Count)               Spare blocks remaining 100%  Retired Block 0
      9: (SSD Power-On Hours)                    Value 86  Total 12896 hrs 35 mins
     12: (SSD Power Cycle Count)                 Power Cycle Life Remaining  98%  Number of power cycles 2282
    171: (SSD Program Fail Count)                Program Error Count 0
    172: (SSD Erase Fail Count)                  Erase Error Count 0
    174: (SSD Unexpected power loss count)       Unexpected power loss Count 205
    177: (Wear Range Delta)                      Wear Range Delta 4%
    181: (Program Fail Count)                    Program Error Count 0
    182: (Erase Fail Count)                      Erase Error Count 0
    187: (SSD Reported Uncorrectable Errors)     Normalized Value 100  lifetime URAISE Errors 0
    189: (Unrecognized Attribute)                Value:  44 Raw Data: 2c 00 4b 00 0c 00 00
    194: (SSD Temperature Monitoring)            Normalized temp 44   Current 44  High 75 Low 12
    195: (SSD ECC On-the-fly Count)              Normalized Value 120   Sectors Read 75157136  UECC Count 0
    196: (SSD Reallocation Event Count)          Normalized Value 100   Reallocation Event Count 0
    201: (SSD Uncorrectable Soft Read Error Rate)Normalized Value 120  Sectors Read 75157136  Uncorrectable Soft Error Count 0
    204: (SSD Soft ECC Correction Rate (RAISE)   Normalized Value 120  Sectors Read 75157136  Soft ECC Correction Count 0
    230: (SSD Life Curve Status)                 Normalized Value 100
    231: (SSD Life Left)                         Life Remaining 95%
    233: (SSD Internal Reserved)                 56178
    234: (SSD Internal Reserved)                 47242
    241: (SSD Lifetime writes from host)         lifetime writes   47242
    242: (SSD Lifetime reads from host)          lifetime reads   52253
this is the data from my SSD. Some get two 2 petabytes before dying.

What is all this? Is it like what goes on in the ssd or something?

[m0k]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

It's the fastest out of the bunch

in benchmarks....

ive used both 850 Evo and MX300 drives in the same system and in real world performance theres no difference

i booted BF4 and GTA5 with both drives - they took the same time

[werto165]

Just now, JoshPJ said:

What is all this? Is it like what goes on in the ssd or something?

nand dies over time and it reallocates sectors of the drives to functioning parts of the drive. Basically take aways are: 

    9: (SSD Power-On Hours)                    Value 86  Total 12896 hrs 35 mins

 241: (SSD Lifetime writes from host)         lifetime writes   47242
    242: (SSD Lifetime reads from host)          lifetime reads   52253 

 

those are in GB

[JoshPJ]

1 minute ago, mok said:

in benchmarks....

ive used both 850 Evo and MX300 drives in the same system and in real world performance theres no difference

i booted BF4 and GTA5 with both drives - they took the same time

Interesting 

[m0k]

12 minutes ago, JoshPJ said:

3 choices

samsung 850-EVO 250gb £84

crucial mx300 275gb £83

SK hynix sl308 250gb £79

i really wish Crucial would stop advertising 275gb, 525gb and 750gb drives

once you format them you realize they only have around 250, 500 and 700gb of usable space

 

if its only a dollar difference i would recommend the Samsung 850evo

[JoshPJ]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NMrDRG

here is my pc build if it makes a difference, btw the cheap gpu and 8gb ram is bcuz im waiting till christmas to upgrade and im gonna build this in summer, kind if like 2 phases

[JoshPJ]

1 minute ago, mok said:

i really wish Crucial would stop advertising 275gb, 525gb and 750gb drives

once you format them you realize they only have around 250, 500 and 700gb of usable space

 

if its only a dollar difference i would recommend the Samsung 850evo

How does that work?

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, JoshPJ said:

How does that work?

Advertised GB =/= Normal GB

 

Advertised = 1000MB = 1 GB

Normal = 1024MB = 1GB

[JoshPJ]

Just now, JDE said:

Advertised GB =/+ Normal GB

 

Advertised = 1000MB = 1 GB

Normal = 1024MB = 1GB

Oh so they are kind of cheating

[m0k]

2 minutes ago, JoshPJ said:

How does that work?

http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/172191en

[werto165]

so a 275gb drive is 275 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000 bytes

But Windows will divide this by 1024 to get its sizes so the above / (1024 * 1024 * 1024)

= 256GB (gibibytes)

 

http://forums.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/MX300-M2-275GB-reporting-only-256GB-usable/td-p/179488

[Droidbot]

6 minutes ago, werto165 said:

ssds are insane these days...

 

-snip-

 

http://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead

Yes, and out of most modern SSDs, Samsung have the most reliable hands down.

 

Go for the 850. It's in a totally different performance category compared to the MX300, especially in heavy real-world load.