First PC Build

[CMOL10]

Hi, I am currently wanting to build a PC and have no idea as to what build to choose from. Any help would be appreciated as parts wise I have a small idea as to what I would like to use. Currently I have a few games on steam and once the PC is built, will invest in a few more AAA titles.

 

PC Build Option 1 - R5 1400, H100i v2, 16gb Corsair Vengeance 4x4gb, GTX 1070

PC Build Option 2 - i5 7600k, H100i v2, 16gb Corsair Vengeance 4x4gb, GTX 1070

 

My issue is, I don't know what I will be giving up if I choose to go with Ryzen. I am also happy to spend more on the Intel build than the AMD one. Currently I have no need for an SSD and will later on invest in some faster storage however, it is not necessary at the moment. 

 

Thanks in advance for the help

 

EDIT: Please let me know if a 1080 would be a better idea that the 1070. Budget is £1500 but if it can go below £1000 that would be nice

 

EDIT: Had a rethink over what is necessary. Followed everyone's advice and went with a R5 1600 and will use the stock cooler only. Downgraded to GTX 1060 as it fits the current needs. Quite a few people suggested I go with higher RAM speeds so I have chosen a 2666 MHz LPX kit. Have decided to stick with Enthoo Evolv ATX as I like the design. So here is the revised parts list. Feel free to suggest anything that needs to be changed. 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DZMVvV

[ImNotThere]

if youre considering the 7600k consider the 1600 over the 1400 

1600 is the best price to performance cpu atm

[zzzzzzzhhh]

Resolution and refresh rate of your monitor?

[Shura]

The Intel i5 7600k is a weaker chip compared to the R5 1600, so you actually lose out by going Intel at this price point and not the other way around. If you must have Intel, then go i7 7700k but even then, with the multitasking gains from R7 1700, it's really hard to recommend Intel right now, unless you are purely gaming.

 

What's your budget?

[Guest]

Get a R5 1600, blows i5 7600k out of the water. 

There few things I would change

You don't need a water cooler air cooled would be fine given the limited budget. Ryzen comes with a good stock cooler already so no need to invest on one. 

You don't need a platinum efficiency PSU, there are lots of good PSU for cheaper.

Get 2x8 stick, cheaper and leaves you 2 more space for upgradability

Get an SSD

X370 board is not needed, B350 is fine

[Shura]

9 minutes ago, CMOL10 said:

Thanks in advance for the help

Better than both the systems originally linked, R5 1600, slightly faster gpu, faster ram and also threw in an SSD. price is cheaper than both of the original builds.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3qzfTH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3qzfTH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£186.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£105.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£76.17 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.50 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card  (£390.01 @ Novatech)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£76.25 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£32.00)
Total: £1180.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:32 BST+0100

[CMOL10]

3 minutes ago, ImNotThere said:

if youre considering the 7600k consider the 1600 over the 1400 

1600 is the best price to performance cpu atm

Ok, will do. Thanks for the Advice

 

4 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

Resolution and refresh rate of your monitor?

Yet to invest in one. For the time being will be using a 35" TV but am looking at a 1440p G-Sync monitor

 

4 minutes ago, Shura said:

The Intel i5 7600k is a weaker chip compared to the R5 1600, so you actually lose out by going Intel at this price point and not the other way around. If you must have Intel, then go i7 7700k but even then, with the multitasking gains from R7 1700, it's really hard to recommend Intel right now, unless you are purely gaming.

 

What's your budget?

Budget is £1500. Had thought about 7700k but I thought it was too expensive. Thanks for the advice about the Ryzen side. PC will be for gaming and for other tasks as I am going to be going to Uni soon so I need a PC for that

 

6 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Get a R5 1600, blows i5 7600k out of the water. 

There few things I would change

You don't need a water cooler air cooled would be fine given the limited budget. Ryzen comes with a good stock cooler already so no need to invest on one. 

You don't need a platinum efficiency PSU, there are lots of good PSU for cheaper.

Get 2x8 stick, cheaper and leaves you 2 more space for upgradability

Get an SSD

X370 board is not needed, B350 is fine

Ok, R5 1600 sounds like a good idea. For the Ryzen stock cooler, what Temps should I be expecting. Will look for Gold efficiency PSU. Agreed with RAM. What speed do you suggest though. Will start looking for a B350 board

[Herman Mcpootis]

try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£186.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£109.72 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.50 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£79.77 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  (£494.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  (£76.59 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£69.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£82.20 @ Aria PC) you can get this from reddit for $20-30 USD to save money.
Total: £1258.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:36 BST+0100

[knightslugger]

4 minutes ago, CMOL10 said:

Agreed with RAM. What speed do you suggest though. Will start looking for a B350 board

find a board you like first, then start shopping for ram. I've been harping on this alot lately so i might as well toss my .001mBTC here as well:

 

Buy the specific SKU of RAM that is on the manufacturer's QVL that you want to run at. the faster, the better (when it comes to Ryzen).

[CMOL10]

2 minutes ago, Shura said:

Better than both the systems originally linked, R5 1600, slightly faster gpu, faster ram and also threw in an SSD. price is cheaper than both of the original builds.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3qzfTH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3qzfTH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£186.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£105.97 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£76.17 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£119.50 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GameRock Video Card  (£390.01 @ Novatech)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  (£79.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£76.25 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£32.00)
Total: £1180.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:32 BST+0100

Thanks for the redesigned build. Certainly do agree with the pricing. 

[zzzzzzzhhh]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£275.89 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£106.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£129.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£118.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.96 @ BT Shop) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  (£581.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£56.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£50.00 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  (£391.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1837.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:45 BST+0100

 

When you have money for the monitor, get that! Will crush every game 1440p 144Hz.

 

EDIT: If you want G-Sync: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tN4NnQ/acer-predator-xb271hua-270-2560x1440-165hz-monitor-umhx1eea01

[Brooksie359]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ywBjr7 this is what I would get. No need to spend 100 dollars on a liquid cooler when you can use the stock cooler that it comes with to even overclock the cpu. 

[Brooksie359]

8 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£275.89 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£106.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£129.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£118.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.96 @ BT Shop) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  (£581.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£56.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£50.00 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  (£391.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1837.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:45 BST+0100

 

When you have money for the monitor, get that! Will crush every game 1440p 144Hz.

Change the memory. Ryzen has a hard time running fast memory when running 4 dims.

[CMOL10]

5 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ywBjr7 this is what I would get. No need to spend 100 dollars on a liquid cooler when you can use the stock cooler that it comes with to even overclock the cpu. 

Thanks for the suggestion. Will take into account that the stock cooler has headroom for overclocking. Will look at using 2 dimm's instead

Edited August 1, 2017 by CMOL10

[CMOL10]

12 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£275.89 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£106.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£129.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£118.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.96 @ BT Shop) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  (£581.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£56.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£50.00 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  (£391.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1837.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:45 BST+0100

 

When you have money for the monitor, get that! Will crush every game 1440p 144Hz.

 

EDIT: If you want G-Sync: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tN4NnQ/acer-predator-xb271hua-270-2560x1440-165hz-monitor-umhx1eea01

Thanks. I just thought that the 1080ti would be a little overkill for 1440p. Then again will make it future proof.

[Brooksie359]

Just now, CMOL10 said:

Thanks for the suggestion. Will take into account that the stock cooler has headroom for overclocking.

It's honestly one of the main appeals of the r5 1600. I mean you can get a 100 dollar liquid cooler but I honestly think your money is better spent elsewhere. You can always get a liquid cooler later if you really want to overclock slightly more aggressively.

[zzzzzzzhhh]

Just now, CMOL10 said:

Thanks. I just thought that the 1080ti would be a little overkill for 1440p. Then again will make it future proof.

Sure it is overkill for 1400p 60Hz, but this is 144Hz, much smoother gameplay, a very aesthetic build, and 'future proof' to say the least.

[CMOL10]

19 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£275.89 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£106.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£129.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£118.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£85.96 @ BT Shop) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.95 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card  (£581.52 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£56.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£50.00 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  (£391.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1837.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 16:45 BST+0100

 

When you have money for the monitor, get that! Will crush every game 1440p 144Hz.

 

EDIT: If you want G-Sync: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tN4NnQ/acer-predator-xb271hua-270-2560x1440-165hz-monitor-umhx1eea01

Also, what is your suggestion for an ultrawide monitor?

[ZenMonkey]

The Intel is currently a better chip for gaming, but the R5 1600 is a great performer and has great long-term potential if more game developers start to utilize more cores and threads given the current CPU trend. The sweet spot for games that use more cores seems to be right around 6 cores, so the R5 might be a good pick. It'll also make your workstation more versatile overall.

 

I recommend going 2x8gb RAM instead of 4x4 to give yourself future upgradeability. The price should be about the same.

 

If you're planning to run 1440p with a high refresh rate, you should consider a 1080 instead of a 1070. I'm not sure if the 1070 pricing is screwed up in England, but here the difference is close enough that it's a viable upgrade even with a tight budget.

 

The SAMSUNG C32HG70 is one of the best 1440p gaming monitors on the market, but it's also pricey.

[CMOL10]

Just now, ZenMonkey said:

The Intel is currently a better chip for gaming, but the R5 1600 is a great performer and has great long-term potential if more game developers start to utilize more cores and threads given the current CPU trend. The sweet spot for games that use more cores seems to be right around 6 cores, so the R5 might be a good pick. It'll also make your workstation more versatile overall.

 

I recommend going 2x8gb RAM instead of 4x4 to give yourself future upgradeability. The price should be about the same.

 

If you're planning to run 1440p with a high refresh rate, you should consider a 1080 instead of a 1070. I'm not sure if the 1070 pricing is screwed up in England, but here the difference is close enough that it's a viable upgrade even with a tight budget.

 

The SAMSUNG C32HG70 is one of the best 1440p gaming monitors on the market, but it's also pricey.

Thanks for the suggestions. Currently looking at using the R5 1600. Will have a look at the monitor. It may be a bit pricey but could be a good idea. Thanks

[ZenMonkey]

Also, I would recommend the Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 over the Corsair H100i. It's cheaper and will give as good or better cooling.