Stuttering in Physics games (BeamNG, Garry’s Mod, etc)

[Zando_]

Alrighty, so a friend (@coltonw023456 to be precise) is having problems in physics intensive games like Garry’s Mod, BeamNG, and GTA V. He’s got an i5 3440 IIRC, 8GB (soon to be 12, I, sending him another 4) RAM, and an EVGA 1050 Ti SC. It stutters I’m pretty much every game expect Battlefront II (2005), which isn’t very intensive. So I’m thinking it’s a game settings thing, not hardware of there’d be problems everywhere. I think he’s already tried reinstalling Windows, and has reinstalled drivers and games as well. Any help would be appreciated, I’ve been helping him on Discord for a few days now, and we’ve got GTA V to only stutter slightly, but other games still are. 

[Himommies]

Has this suddenly popped up or was the PC working before

[Zando_]

Just now, Himommies said:

Has this suddenly popped up or was the PC working before

It’s been an issue far a bit, I think. He used to run off the iGPU, so there’s not a before to compare to. 

[Himommies]

10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

It’s been an issue far a bit, I think. He used to run off the iGPU, so there’s not a before to compare to. 

Change the API's 

Torque and Source are both really weird and retarded engines that confuse me a lot so maybe using a older API might make it run better especially with torque.I've heard tales of both those games doing really poorly with DX11 and then being fine with DX9

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, Himommies said:

Change the API's 

Torque and Source are both really weird and retarded engines that confuse me a lot so maybe using a older API might make it run better especially with torque.I've heard tales of both those games doing really poorly with DX11 and then being fine with DX9

Ah. We’ll try that. Where does he change those settings? I don’t have GTA V, so I don’t know where they are. 

[Jurrunio]

Did he try other games? Sample size of 3 is quite small.

 

I have played BeamNG drive a lot, especially with mods. It's very CPU heavy even without mods. Even my 4460 cant handle 2 cars running with AI in a complex map.

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Ah. We’ll try that. Where does he change those settings? I don’t have GTA V, so I don’t know where they are. 

.Graphics tab. It's nearly on the top. It has DX 10, 10.1 and 11.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Did he try other games? Sample size of 3 is quite small.

 

I have played BeamNG drive a lot, especially with mods. It's very CPU heavy even without mods. Even my 4460 cant handle 2 cars running with AI in a complex map.

I don’t know. I’ll get him to answer that. 

[Coltonw023456]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Did he try other games? Sample size of 3 is quite small.

 

I have played BeamNG drive a lot, especially with mods. It's very CPU heavy even without mods. Even my 4460 cant handle 2 cars running with AI in a complex map.

 

[Jurrunio]

 

5 minutes ago, Coltonw023456 said:

 

.I have only played GTA V and BeamNG out of these games, so....

 

Tried the classic troubleshooting yet? Like monitoring usage and temps with Afterburner?

[Zando_]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

 

.I have only played GTA V and BeamNG out of these games, so....

 

Tried the classic troubleshooting yet? Like monitoring usage and temps with Afterburner?

Yup, usage and temps are fine, IIRC. 

[Coltonw023456]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

 

.I have only played GTA V and BeamNG out of these games, so....

 

Tried the classic troubleshooting yet? Like monitoring usage and temps with Afterburner?

i did its was normal

[Zando_]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

.I have only played GTA V and BeamNG out of these games, so....

 

Tried the classic troubleshooting yet? Like monitoring usage and temps with Afterburner?

Alrighty. He tested it, and it’s the same with all the API’s. 

[Jurrunio]

Maybe the PCIe link speed? Back when I first fitted my RX 470 into the slot, I got heavy stuttering in games. When I check with GPU-Z, apparently something went wrong with the installation and it could only connect with PCIe 1.1 x16 speed. After refitting the GPU, it finally got PCIe 2.0 x16 bandwidth and the stutter is gone.

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Maybe the PCIe link speed? Back when I first fitted my RX 470 into the slot, I got heavy stuttering in games. When I check with GPU-Z, apparently something went wrong with the installation and it could only connect with PCIe 1.1 x16 speed. After refitting the GPU, it finally got PCIe 2.0 x16 bandwidth and the stutter is gone.

Ah. We’ll try that. 

[Coltonw023456]

ok so just got 12 gbs of ram and kind of still shuttering some one help

Benchmark-17-08-03-11-05-54.txt

[Zando_]

12 minutes ago, Coltonw023456 said:

ok so just got 12 gbs of ram and kind of still shuttering some one help

Benchmark-17-08-03-11-05-54.txt

@Jurrunio, @Himommies, got any ideas? I got mixed up on the CPU, it's an i5 4590. So he has that, 12GB of RAM now, and a 1050 Ti. It's a bit better with the extra RAM, but still stutters in Garry's Mod, GTA V, BeamNG, Farming Sim 2017, etc. The only game it doesn't stutter in is Battlefront II (which could run on a potato, so that's probs why). Changing settings up or down doesn't help either. 

[Jurrunio]

Do GPU benchmarks and stress softwares like Cinebench R15 and Furmark run with smooth frames then? It could be a QC fail on the GPU. If the system ran stable before the GPU came then the rest of it should be fine

[Coltonw023456]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Do GPU benchmarks and stress softwares like Cinebench R15 and Furmark run with smooth frames then? It could be a QC fail on the GPU. If the system ran stable before the GPU came then the rest of it should be fine

the pc nevered run good with the games 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Coltonw023456 said:

the pc nevered run good with the games 

That's why I used "stable' to describe it. I have run World of Tanks with HD4000 on the CPU for months in the past. Even this game is old and can run on Russian calculators with dedicated GPU, HD4000 is just too weak.

[Coltonw023456]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

That's why I used "stable' to describe it. I have run World of Tanks with HD4000 on the CPU for months in the past. Even this game is old and can run on Russian calculators with dedicated GPU, HD4000 is just too weak.

so whats wrong with my rig

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Coltonw023456 said:

so whats wrong with my rig

I suspect the graphics card to be faulty, i.e. a card that supposed to fail Quality Control (QC)

[Coltonw023456]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

I suspect the graphics card to be faulty, i.e. a card that supposed to fail Quality Control (QC)

i just got the gtx on the end of 2016

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Coltonw023456 said:

i just got the gtx on the end of 2016

It could ne damaged on the way of transportation. Being new doesnt avoid being damaged

[Coltonw023456]

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/19745245 

 

evga said the gtx was run so good

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

It could ne damaged on the way of transportation. Being new doesnt avoid being damaged