Aida64 Cache test Fail

[NewBieDavid]

I have this ongoing problem that cause my PC to freeze and lockup with while gaming and I've done alot to try and diagnose my pc to find out what's wrong and I ended up buying a New psu but It didn't seem to help so I was convinced it was a RAM problem because Prime95 blend test seems to freeze and so does Aida memory tests do .
But right before I was about to buy new RAM I ran the Cache stress test and It froze as fast as the ram test did .

Is this the L3 Cache in the cpu that is causing the crash or shall I still go and buy new Ram ?? 
System specs : 
AMD FX6300 @stock speeds
Kingston single channel 8 ddr3 1600MHz

asus m5a78l-m le 

GTX 1050 2gb

Corsair CX550M 80+ bronze

[themctipers]

run memtest and see if the ram has any problems with it

if it doesn't, well CPU cache is RIP I guess ( never heard of it failing though) 

[NewBieDavid]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

run memtest and see if the ram has any problems with it

if it doesn't, well CPU cache is RIP I guess ( never heard of it failing though) 

Memtest Seems to freeze on the 6th test 
But sometimes it passes normally 

[themctipers]

1 minute ago, NewBieDavid said:

Memtest Seems to freeze on the 6th test 
But sometimes it passes normally 

so its CPU most likely.

[NewBieDavid]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

so its CPU most likely.

So If i run a cpu test and it fails that means cpu cache is messed up ?
Ill run and see what happens 

 

[NewBieDavid]

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

so its CPU most likely.

oh wait I am already running a cpu test 
Been going for 19 mins 
hope it keeps on going 

[AvocadosGuac]

Is your system crashing while gaming? No point in buying a new FX cpu for now, wait till you can get ryzen

[AvocadosGuac]

17 minutes ago, NewBieDavid said:

PC to freeze and lockup with while gaming

Lol rip just saw this.

[NewBieDavid]

1 minute ago, Jrock said:

Lol rip just saw this.

So is everyone already dismissing the fact that I failed the memory test ??
CPU test seems to go fine because I went for an hour yesterday and now im on 25 mins 

[AvocadosGuac]

Just now, NewBieDavid said:

So is everyone already dismissing the fact that I failed the memory test ??
CPU test seems to go fine because I went for an hour yesterday and now im on 25 mins 

I would personally invest in a new r5 system rather than buying new ram.

[NewBieDavid]

Just now, Jrock said:

I would personally invest in a new r5 system rather than buying new ram.

yeah well my PC is kinda new
Bought the entire pc (Without gpu) for 90 bucks which is the cost of the Mobo and cpu itself
Plus this is for now till i get money for a ryzen 1600 (Im a student so it will take some time )
Anyway Would getting new ram fix the problem ? 
Whats up with failing that cache test ???? 

[AvocadosGuac]

Just now, NewBieDavid said:

yeah well my PC is kinda new
Bought the entire pc (Without gpu) for 90 bucks which is the cost of the Mobo and cpu itself
Plus this is for now till i get money for a ryzen 1600 (Im a student so it will take some time )
Anyway Would getting new ram fix the problem ? 
Whats up with failing that cache test ???? 

I believe its the cpu pulling data from the ram, and when the ram has nothing in that block, the cpu has nothing to process...

[NewBieDavid]

Just now, Jrock said:

I believe its the cpu pulling data from the ram, and when the ram has nothing in that block, the cpu has nothing to process...

So its Ram ...
I regret buying this pc
Not because of the poor fx 6300 performance no, I got what I paid for 

But the headache it gave me

[porina]

I'm not so familiar with AMD systems, but there's some things you can try.

Run Prime95 small FFT. Is that stable or not? If it passes, that points the problem more at the ram. If it fails, it could be cache or CPU.

Try running the ram at a lower speed than rated, 1333 perhaps?

[NewBieDavid]

1 minute ago, porina said:

I'm not so familiar with AMD systems, but there's some things you can try.

Run Prime95 small FFT. Is that stable or not? If it passes, that points the problem more at the ram. If it fails, it could be cache or CPU.

Try running the ram at a lower speed than rated, 1333 perhaps?

Hmm I remember running small FFT for an hour and it didn't crash because usually blend test and large FFT crash within 50 minutes or sometimes less
Ill try it now for about an hour and see how it will do .

[NewBieDavid]

2 minutes ago, porina said:

I'm not so familiar with AMD systems, but there's some things you can try.

Run Prime95 small FFT. Is that stable or not? If it passes, that points the problem more at the ram. If it fails, it could be cache or CPU.

Try running the ram at a lower speed than rated, 1333 perhaps?

Oh and I've been running CPU stress test for 56 minutes and no crash so far on AIDA 
 

[porina]

Just now, NewBieDavid said:

Hmm I remember running small FFT for an hour and it didn't crash because usually blend test and large FFT crash within 50 minutes or sometimes less
Ill try it now for about an hour and see how it will do .

Give it a try. Small FFT should fit inside the CPU cache and hit the cores hard, but not really stress ram.

 

Just now, NewBieDavid said:

Oh and I've been running CPU stress test for 56 minutes and no crash so far on AIDA 

Together this is suggestive the ram might not be fully stable for some reason. While it may impact performance, lowering the ram speed could help a lot there. Value of performance is limited if it isn't stable.

[NewBieDavid]

Just now, porina said:

Give it a try. Small FFT should fit inside the CPU cache and hit the cores hard, but not really stress ram.

 

Together this is suggestive the ram might not be fully stable for some reason. While it may impact performance, lowering the ram speed could help a lot there. Value of performance is limited if it isn't stable.

ok ill go ahead and try small FFT and then try lowering ram speeds and see if it helps
Very interesting Ideas i didn't hear for 2 weeks since I started asking for help !

[NewBieDavid]

55 minutes ago, porina said:

Give it a try. Small FFT should fit inside the CPU cache and hit the cores hard, but not really stress ram.

 

Together this is suggestive the ram might not be fully stable for some reason. While it may impact performance, lowering the ram speed could help a lot there. Value of performance is limited if it isn't stable.

Ah Dammit ... 
The PC crashed after 50 minutes ...
I kinda want to buy ram first because I will be able to send it back if it's not the problem unlike if I buy a used Fx-6300 so yeah.

Any small chance it might still be ram ? 

[AvocadosGuac]

1 minute ago, NewBieDavid said:

Ah Dammit ... 
The PC crashed after 50 minutes ...
I kinda want to buy ram first because I will be able to send it back if it's not the problem unlike if I buy a used Fx-6300 so yeah.

Any small chance it might still be ram ? 

Im confident it would be the ram.

[NewBieDavid]

1 minute ago, Jrock said:

Im confident it would be the ram.

Even tho I crashed with tests that has nothing to do with ram ?

[AvocadosGuac]

Just now, NewBieDavid said:

Even tho I crashed with tests that has nothing to do with ram ?

Memtest is failing.

 

Can you test another PSU?

[NewBieDavid]

Just now, Jrock said:

Memtest is failing.

 

Can you test another PSU?

Im actually using a new Psu I bought last week 
Bro did u read my thread fully ?

[porina]

4 minutes ago, NewBieDavid said:

Ah Dammit ... 
The PC crashed after 50 minutes ...
I kinda want to buy ram first because I will be able to send it back if it's not the problem unlike if I buy a used Fx-6300 so yeah.

Any small chance it might still be ram ? 

There is still a chance, as it doesn't completely eliminate ram use. Tried lowering the ram speed? Actually, how about getting screenshots of CPU-z, for the memory tab, and also the SPD tab - you may have to select the right slot to get the ram module to show up.

 

Just to be clear, the current CPU and ram are used so no returns right? To diagnose further you're looking at getting more parts to swap out? And since we haven't discussed it, what CPU temps are you getting under load? Just in case that's overheating.

[NewBieDavid]

Just now, porina said:

There is still a chance, as it doesn't completely eliminate ram use. Tried lowering the ram speed? Actually, how about getting screenshots of CPU-z, for the memory tab, and also the SPD tab - you may have to select the right slot to get the ram module to show up.

 

Just to be clear, the current CPU and ram are used so no returns right? To diagnose further you're looking at getting more parts to swap out? And since we haven't discussed it, what CPU temps are you getting under load? Just in case that's overheating.

yeah no returns .
And my temps are always under 60-65 
Motherboard can get to 70 max when FPU test is running