What do i need to increase in-game fps performance during multi-tasking

[Ben4wolves]

Hi

 

So basically I want to be able to watch a twitch stream whilst playing cs:go without having such a dramatic fps drop, i use a 144hz monitor so need to be realistically playing at around 165fps constantly. I will get around 220-230 when just playing cs and using discord. However when I want to watch a twitch stream or youtube video while playing a game by fps drops completely.

 

I currently have a:

 

i5 4690

8gb ddr3 ram

Zotac amp 4gb gtx 960

 

and I was wondering which of these would need to be upgraded in order to gain the performance I need.

 

Thanks

[NoobCase]

A 4790k or the non k variant should do the trick. 

 

Alternatively you could go ryzen but that means new CPU/mobo/ram

[Brooksie359]

Most likely the issue is your cpu. You could upgrade to an i7 and it should help.

[Ben4wolves]

Just now, NoobCase said:

A 4790k or the non k variant should do the trick. 

 

Alternatively you could go ryzen but that means new CPU/mobo/ram

damn :(, i was hoping it didn't have to be the cpu 

[pyrojoe34]

For streaming and multitasking you want a CPU with more cores (like Ryzen 5 6-core or Ryzen 7 or i7 6 or 8 core), even a hyperthreaded 4 core (like a 4 core i7) will do better than an i5. However, a Ryzen (6 or 8 core) will likely do better with multitaking and streaming while gaming than something like an i7-6700k or 7700k, but you will get slightly lower framerates due to lower IPC with a 6 or 8core vs a 4c/8t. You have to decide which is more important to you. Having said that even the Ryzen 5 should have no problem getting over 165hz on CS:GO and you would experience less framedrops or performance loss with an R5 or R7 while streaming/multitasking than with an i7 4c/8t.

 

Basically I would recommend an R5 or R7 and give up a little bit of gaming performance for better streaming/multitasking performance.

 

If you don't want to upgrade the mobo and RAM then an i7-4790k would be an improvement and you can still use the same mobo/RAM.

[Brooksie359]

Just now, Ben4wolves said:

damn :(, i was hoping it didn't have to be the cpu 

Well what is your cpu usage while playing and watching youtube?

[Brooksie359]

Just now, pyrojoe34 said:

For streaming and multitasking you want a CPU with more cores (like Ryzen 5 6-core or Ryzen 7 or i7 6 or 8 core), even a hyperthreaded 4 core (like a 4 core i7) will do better than an i5. However, a Ryzen (6 or 8 core) will likely do better with multitaking and streaming while gaming than something like an i7-6700k or 7700k, but you will get slightly lower framerates due to lower IPC with a 6 or 8core vs a 4c/8t. You have to decide which is more important to you. Having said that even the Ryzen 5 should have no problem getting over 165hz on CS:GO and you would experience less framedrops or performance loss with an R5 or R7 while streaming/multitasking than with an i7 4c/8t.

 

Basically I would recommend an R5 or R7 and give up a little bit of gaming performance for better streaming/multitasking performance.

He has a 4th Gen locked i5. He won't see performance loss in games compared to an overclocked r5 1600 which is what I would get if they do want to go the am4 route. That being said buying a 4th Gen i7 seems like the cheapest solution.

[Ben4wolves]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Well what is your cpu usage while playing and watching youtube?

around 80% on both cpu and memory but only getting 120fps

 

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, Ben4wolves said:

around 80% on both cpu and memory but only getting 120fps

 

What was it while just gaming?

[pyrojoe34]

5 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

He has a 4th Gen locked i5. He won't see performance loss in games compared to an overclocked r5 1600 which is what I would get if they do want to go the am4 route. That being said buying a 4th Gen i7 seems like the cheapest solution.

Good point, the 4th gen Intel IPC is about on par with Ryzen IPC so single core performance will be about the same. Looks like gaming benchmarks are almost identical except in multithreaded games like BF1 where R5 beats the 4690k (which if he has the locked i5 then R5 will probably beat it 90% of the time in almost any game).

 

If he wants to spend the least amount though than I agree, an i7-4790k would be his best bet.

[Ben4wolves]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

What was it while just gaming?

the strange thing is if i turn off youtube my csgo cpu usage goes up to around 50-60%, but if turn youtube on it goes down to around 30-40% even though im still only using 80%

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You can try using "set affinity" and/or setting a priority for the more important and less important task so something important is never disrupted by something unimportant.

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, Ben4wolves said:

the strange thing is if i turn off youtube my csgo cpu usage goes up to around 50-60%, but if turn youtube on it goes down to around 30-40% even though im still only using 80%

What is your gpu usage at? It is probably the cpu and how it's allocated to the cores. You may want to look at per core usage.

[Ben4wolves]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

You can try using "set affinity" and/or setting a priority for the more important task so it is never pushed aside by something else intense.

how would i go about that?

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Just now, Ben4wolves said:

how would i go about that?

in task manager... set the important thing as high priority, the others as low priority, and even restrict the less important things to certain cores using set affinity

[orangecat]

More cores and or more threads on your CPU. A core i5 only has 4 threads to work with so everything must fit down 4 streams of data. That included game engine, background programs, streams etc etc.

[Ben4wolves]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

What is your gpu usage at? It is probably the cpu and how it's allocated to the cores. You may want to look at per core usage.

gpu is at 100% and allocated pretty much equally between each core

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2 minutes ago, Ben4wolves said:

gpu is at 100% and allocated pretty much equally between each core

My strategy will work for balancing the load assuming your CPU is sufficient, but if it's not, there is no other option but to upgrade.

[Ben4wolves]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

My strategy will work for balancing the load assuming your CPU is sufficient, but if it's not, there is no other option but to upgrade.

i right click on csgo in task manager but see no option to set priority

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Just now, Ben4wolves said:

i right click on csgo in task manager but see no option to set priority

Well it's there, maybe your'e using the dumbed down view?  Click "more details" and go to the "details" tab

[Ben4wolves]

i was looking within the processes tab, my bad, ive changed it now. 

 

Thank you for your help

[Brett_Bst]

Simple fact is you will need more cores to handle the workload, that's either a intel or AMD cpu, depends on your budget to upgrade ? 

 

Intel upgrade = cpu, amd = cpu, mbo and ram 

 

Me, I would just get a better intel cpu, cpu depends on what bored u have