Make VMWare like normal windows 10

[kecap]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this

 

I'm wondering if I can modify Windows 10 on VMware to have the settings of normal windows? I need it so application doesn't detect the system running from VM - because I want to play a game running on host and VM. Problem is, when I run it on VM the application says "Sorry, this application can't run under virtual machine" 

 

thanks.

[Electronics Wizardy]

What vmware product? ESXI

 

KVM lets you fake a real machine, but there are still ways to know its a virtual machine.

[Lord Nicoll]

2 minutes ago, kecap said:

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this

 

I'm wondering if I can modify Windows 10 on VMware to have the settings of normal windows? I need it so application doesn't detect the system running from VM - because I want to play a game running on host and VM. Problem is, when I run it on VM the application says "Sorry, this application can't run under virtual machine" 

 

thanks.

VMware is a particularly transparent type of VMhost. What are the host and vM specs, did you enable 3D support and what type of VMware are you running, I assume ESXi but there are others, what version too. 

[kecap]

6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What vmware product? ESXI

 

KVM lets you fake a real machine, but there are still ways to know its a virtual machine.

 

6 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

VMware is a particularly transparent type of VMhost. What are the host and vM specs, did you enable 3D support and what type of VMware are you running, I assume ESXi but there are others, what version too. 

I don't know any of those, I only know that I installed VMWare Workstation 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, kecap said:

 

I don't know any of those, I only know that I installed VMWare Workstation 

On what OS?

 

Shot answer, no, but kvm on linux lets you do this.

[Lord Nicoll]

Just now, kecap said:

 

I don't know any of those, I only know that I installed VMWare Workstation 

Right, that helps us help you. Did you pass a video card through and enough CPU cores to be used for gaming and RAM, You're gonna wanna pass a whole PCIe video card through, at least 4 CPU threads and 6GB of RAM to even come close to having enough for gaming. 

[kecap]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

On what OS?

 

Shot answer, no, but kvm on linux lets you do this.

Host is windows 10, same with the VM

[kecap]

Just now, Lord Nicoll said:

Right, that helps us help you. Did you pass a video card through and enough CPU cores to be used for gaming and RAM, You're gonna wanna pass a whole PCIe video card through, at least 4 CPU threads and 6GB of RAM to even come close to having enough for gaming. 

The game I'm trying to run doesn't require big specs, I set the VM to use 4GB Ram and total of 4 cores

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, kecap said:

The game I'm trying to run doesn't require big specs, I set the VM to use 4GB Ram and total of 4 cores

what game, most games won't run from the gpu in a vm, they software gpu sucks.

[Lord Nicoll]

Just now, kecap said:

The game I'm trying to run doesn't require big specs, I set the VM to use 4GB Ram and total of 4 cores

You still need to pass a video card through for it to have 3D support, or enable it in the menu. I use ESXi which is a dedicated host OS for VMware, so it's not massively the same but similar. Without either 3D support or a dedicated GPU you won't have API suppport. 

[kecap]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

what game, most games won't run from the gpu in a vm, they software gpu sucks.

Ever heard of Point Blank? you can check the required specs here https://pb.garena.co.id/download/client

[kecap]

3 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

You still need to pass a video card through for it to have 3D support, or enable it in the menu. I use ESXi which is a dedicated host OS for VMware, so it's not massively the same but similar. Without either 3D support or a dedicated GPU you won't have API suppport. 

What does "pass a video card through" means? I've enable the Accelerate 3D Graphics and put 2GB Graphic card memory under Display on VM Settings

[Lord Nicoll]

Just now, kecap said:

What does "pass a video card through" means? I've enable the Accelerate 3D Graphics and put 2GB Graphic card memory

It means to take a PCIe device from the machine and dedicate it to the VM, completely passing the host OS, it's something I do to give VMs GPU compute cards in rack servers. 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, kecap said:

What does "pass a video card through" means? I've enable the Accelerate 3D Graphics and put 2GB Graphic card memory under Display on VM Settings

you can give a vm full control of a pcie gpu, but you can't do that on windows 10.

 

 

Why not install the game on the host?

[kecap]

1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

It means to take a PCIe device from the machine and dedicate it to the VM, completely passing the host OS, it's something I do to give VMs GPU compute cards in rack servers. 

 

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you can give a vm full control of a pcie gpu, but you can't do that on windows 10.

 

 

Why not install the game on the host?

So I can't do that in Win 10 host or Win10 VM?

 

I'm trying dual login on the same system to do some exploits

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, kecap said:

 

So I can't do that in Win 10 host or Win10 VM?

 

I'm trying dual login on the same system to do some exploits

install linux with kvm then you can make it think its not a vm.

[kecap]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

install linux with kvm then you can make it think its not a vm.

Would installing linux on vm then install vm on it work? 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, kecap said:

Would installing linux on vm then install vm on it work? 

nope, linux needs to be on the hardware.

[kecap]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

nope, linux needs to be on the hardware.

Oh well I'll try on my second rig, thanks! 

[KenjiUmino]

49 minutes ago, kecap said:

Oh well I'll try on my second rig, thanks! 

that's the easiest solution.