Posted November 23, 2013 for gaming and editing going to air cool it with NH- D14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 They are pretty equal in gaming right now but the 8350 will pull ahead with some of the newer titles coming out that use more threads in the CPU. It's also much better for editing. This. [spoiler=CORMAC]CPU:Intel celeron 1.6ghz RAM:Kingston 400mhz 1.99gb MOBO:MSI G31TM-P21 GPU:Will add one later on! CASE:local ROUTER D-Link 2750U, D-LINK 2730U MOUSE:HP,DELL,ViP KEYBOARD: v7 SPEAKERS:Creative 245 MONITOR:AOC E970Sw HEADSET: Sony MDRx05s UPS:conex ups avr 500va PSU:idk OD:Samsung super writemaster STORAGE:80 gb seagate+ Seagate 1TB OS:Windows xp sp3 themed to Windows 7 + Linux |Rest all pc in my house will be updated from time-time COMING SOON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 8350 I don't always have time to study, but when I do, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 get a 8320 and OC it, you will get the same/almost the same OC with a 8320 than with a 8350. only difference between the 8320 and the 8350 is that the 8320 coudnt reach 4.0 GHz at the wattage that they put as the 'benchmark', so it may use 5 watts more at that GHz than a 8350 ITX Monster: CPU: I5 4690K GPU: MSI 970 4G Mobo: Asus Formula VI Impact RAM: Kingston 8 GB 1600MHz PSU: Corsair RM 650 SSD: Crucial MX100 512 GB HDD: laptop drive 1TB Keyboard: logitech G710+ Mouse: Steelseries Rival Monitor: LG IPS 23" Case: Corsair 250D Cooling: H100i Mobile: Phone: Broken HTC One (M7) Totaly Broken OnePlus ONE Samsung S6 32GB :wub: Tablet: Google Nexus 7 2013 edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 ^ What he said the 8350 is just a more efficient 8320. it just means that it wont stay within there TDP of 125W at the socket when running at 4.0ghz but there's nothing stopping you OCing the 8320 to 8350 speeds. Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 get a 8320 and OC it, you will get the same/almost the same OC with a 8320 than with a 8350. only difference between the 8320 and the 8350 is that the 8320 coudnt reach 4.0 GHz at the wattage that they put as the 'benchmark', so it may use 5 watts more at that GHz than a 8350 It's more like 40W, but yes, this. CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k @ 4.7 1.3v with a Corsair H80 w/Dual SP120s - Motherboard: MSI Z97 gaming 5 - RAM: 4x4 G.Skill Ripjaws X @ 1600 - GPU: Dual PowerColour R9 290- SSD: Samsung NVME SM951 256GB-- PSU: Corsair RM 1000 - Case: NZXT H440 Black/red - Keyboard: Coolermaster CM storm Quickfire TK, Cherry MX blues - Mouse: Logitech G502 - Heaphones: Beyerdynamic DT 770 - Monitors: 3x VE248H Eyefinity 1080P - Phone: iPhone 6S Plus Please post your specifications in your post, signature or even better, system page on your profile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 If you're don't need the high clocks or extra bit of cpu power, get the 8320 and save some money. If you ever need help with a build, read the following before posting: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/3061-build-plan-thread-recommendations-please-read-before-posting/Also, make sure to quote a post or tag a member when replying or else they won't get a notification that you replied to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 Author They are pretty equal in gaming right now but the 8350 will pull ahead with some of the newer titles coming out that use more threads in the CPU. It's also much better for editing. This. 8350 get a 8320 and OC it, you will get the same/almost the same OC with a 8320 than with a 8350. only difference between the 8320 and the 8350 is that the 8320 coudnt reach 4.0 GHz at the wattage that they put as the 'benchmark', so it may use 5 watts more at that GHz than a 8350 ^ What he said the 8350 is just a more efficient 8320. it just means that it wont stay within there TDP of 125W at the socket when running at 4.0ghz but there's nothing stopping you OCing the 8320 to 8350 speeds. If you're don't need the high clocks or extra bit of cpu power, get the 8320 and save some money. It's more like 40W, but yes, this. thank you all but i dont have the 8320 here in the store so i will just get the 8350 i saw a 9370 is it worth it over a 8350? and is the http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_990FX_R20/#overview a good motherbored for the 8350? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 since you mentioned video editing, i say go for the FX-8350. only get the 4670K if you'll be doing way more gaming than video editing. Desktop: CM Elite 130 - Corsair CX600M PSU - Asus Maximus VI Impact - Intel Core i7-4790K (@4.4GHz) - Corsair H80i - 2x8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 - Asus DirectCUII Radeon R9 290 - 250GB Samsung EVO SSD + 4TB WD Red HDD Laptop: Asus N56DP-DH11 (AMD A10-4600M - Radeon HD7730M) -------------------------------------------------------- I know, I'm a bit of an AMD fanboy -------------------------------------------------------- "It's not what you drive; it's how you drive it." ~~Jeremy Clark, TopGear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 thank you all but i dont have the 8320 here in the store so i will just get the 8350 i saw a 9370 is it worth it over a 8350? and is the http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_990FX_R20/#overview a good motherbored for the 8350? Where are you shopping? No, the 9370 isn't worth it unless it's not much more. The Sabertooth is good but really only worth it if you're doing a custom cooling loop and pushing high clocks. If you ever need help with a build, read the following before posting: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/3061-build-plan-thread-recommendations-please-read-before-posting/Also, make sure to quote a post or tag a member when replying or else they won't get a notification that you replied to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 Author since you mentioned video editing, i say go for the FX-8350. only get the 4670K if you'll be doing way more gaming than video editing. well i will game more then edit so should i get 4670k? Where are you shopping? No, the 9370 isn't worth it unless it's not much more. The Sabertooth is good but really only worth it if you're doing a custom cooling loop and pushing high clocks. The 9370 is only worth it when you concider that it comes with a 120mm liquid cooler. But in markets where the 8350 is $170ish then the 9370 becomes less of a good deal. And yeah that's a great motherboard ok so 9370 is out of the picture the asus is the only fx motherboard i have here and whats the difference between the 4670k and 8350 if you just do gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) Edited 4670K is claimed to be a bit more powerful when your doing some video editing but on the other hand all the new games that are coming out take advantage of all 8 of the FX-8350's cores and seems the 4670K is a quad core it looses out there. IMO that board is ripe for over clocking and with an 8350 you can get them to 4.5Ghz with ease. (i have the exact mobo + CPU and i am sitting at 5Ghz) Edited November 23, 2013 by Altecice Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 well i will game more then edit so should i get 4670k? ok so 9370 is out of the picture the asus is the only fx motherboard i have here and whats the difference between the 4670k and 8350 if you just do gaming? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc Watch this. It should give you a rough idea. Again, where are you shopping? If you ever need help with a build, read the following before posting: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/3061-build-plan-thread-recommendations-please-read-before-posting/Also, make sure to quote a post or tag a member when replying or else they won't get a notification that you replied to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) huh? Edited the 4670k is just a quadcore. VS FX-8350 is a true 8Core CPU (some people say not so but it really is) so in terms of new games that use all the cores the 8 core will beat 4 cores. Edited November 23, 2013 by Altecice Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 FX-8350 is a true 8Core CPU (some people say not so but it really is) so in terms of new games that use all the cores the 8 core will beat 4 cores. Just like to point out on this point, the FX-8350 has 8 interger processors (Video rendering uses these) and 4 FPUs (Games use these) so for video rendering the 8350/9590 destroys nearly anything minus the 6 core $1000 4960x (http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/FX-9590/FX-9590-41.jpg), for gaming due to the fact it has 4 FPUs it means that it's as fast as a quad-core but has the advantage that the game can still use all 8 cores, it just means theres a delay between when each CPU can use the FPU, and therefore is the reason why it only really gets up to speed of a 4770k CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k @ 4.7 1.3v with a Corsair H80 w/Dual SP120s - Motherboard: MSI Z97 gaming 5 - RAM: 4x4 G.Skill Ripjaws X @ 1600 - GPU: Dual PowerColour R9 290- SSD: Samsung NVME SM951 256GB-- PSU: Corsair RM 1000 - Case: NZXT H440 Black/red - Keyboard: Coolermaster CM storm Quickfire TK, Cherry MX blues - Mouse: Logitech G502 - Heaphones: Beyerdynamic DT 770 - Monitors: 3x VE248H Eyefinity 1080P - Phone: iPhone 6S Plus Please post your specifications in your post, signature or even better, system page on your profile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 Author Edited 4670K is claimed to be a bit more powerful when your doing some video editing but on the other hand all the new games that are coming out take advantage of all 8 of the FX-8350's cores and seems the 4670K is a quad core it looses out there. IMO that board is ripe for over clocking and with an 8350 you can get them to 4.5Ghz with ease. (i have the exact mobo + CPU and i am sitting at 5Ghz) can i diry overclock to 5.0ghz just to see if its stable? what voltage should i use? 1.25v? 1.20v? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc Watch this. It should give you a rough idea. Again, where are you shopping? thanks this make me want to go for the 8350 and i will grab that mobo since i want to get to 5ghz For most games there isn't a great deal of difference at all. But in games that need strong single thread performance the intel will win, in newer games the utilize more CPU threads the amd will win. well i just saw the tek syndicate video you are right Also the i7 4770k (which is a hyperthreaded quad core) crushes an 8350 in most tasks Just like to point out on this point, the FX-8350 has 8 interger processors (Video rendering uses these) and 4 FPUs (Games use these) so for video rendering the 8350/9590 destroys nearly anything minus the 6 core $1000 4960x (http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/FX-9590/FX-9590-41.jpg), for gaming due to the fact it has 4 FPUs it means that it's as fast as a quad-core but has the advantage that the game can still use all 8 cores, it just means theres a delay between when each CPU can use the FPU, and therefore is the reason why it only really gets up to speed of a 4770k i wanted to get 4770k but its just too much so i will settle for an overclocked 8350 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 I use 1.464V to get it there, I don't keep it at 5Ghz 24/7 i have it sitting at 4.8. plenty fast enough. Also its a Silicone lottery if your chip is up to the task of Overclocking, some OC well some don't. its just luck. There are also no golden voltages for everyone you need to test it yourself as your CPU will be different from mine. Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 Author I use 1.464V to get it there, I don't keep it at 5Ghz 24/7 i have it sitting at 4.8. plenty fast enough. Also its a Silicone lottery if your chip is up to the task of Overclocking, some OC well some don't. its just luck. There are also no golden voltages for everyone you need to test it yourself as your CPU will be different from mine. is there a test overclock for amd chips ? like for intel its 4.6 all cores on 1.20V(just to test the chip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 23, 2013 Before you go any further look on youtube/Google for some 8350 OC guides. the stock voltage of the 8350 is 1.35V to start with But the "test" to test an OC is prime95 for up to 24Hours Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 25, 2013 Author Before you go any further look on youtube/Google for some 8350 OC guides. the stock voltage of the 8350 is 1.35V to start with But the "test" to test an OC is prime95 for up to 24Hours thanks do you think the NH-D14 can reach 5ghz? i heard its only possible with water cooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 25, 2013 yeah 5ghz is Water only i would say to cope with the heat and TDP it needs to cool. Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 26, 2013 Author yeah 5ghz is Water only i would say to cope with the heat and TDP it needs to cool. but 4.8ghz will do for d14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 26, 2013 im on water for my 4.8 and its at 31c idle and can pop to 66 on full load. so no id say 4.5 or lower is achievable on air, all depends on your chip though Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 26, 2013 Author im on water for my 4.8 and its at 31c idle and can pop to 66 on full load. so no id say 4.5 or lower is achievable on air, all depends on your chip though can i auto overclock? through the motherboard ?is is it a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 26, 2013 always ALWAYS do the OC youself. Software isisnt very good at it. Intel I9-9900k (5Ghz) | Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4-4133mhz | ASUS ROG Strix 2080Ti | EVGA Supernova G2 1050w 80+Gold | Samsung 950 Pro M.2 (512GB) + (1TB) | Full EK custom water loop |IN-WIN S-Frame (No. 263/500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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