help/advice/suggestions on First build

[Irumasa]

Hi everyone

As it says, I'm looking for advice and suggestions on a new computer, in total system and screen, keyboard and mouse I can get myself.Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything. I'm new to all this build your own stick I do watch some tech videos part of the reason why I am here

My current system is a Toshiba satellite A500 with a core 2 duo T6600 @ 2.20GHz with 4gb of ram (more like 2gb), so I thought it might be time to "upgrade for a while" so I can actually do a little more. So here's my deal I live in Australia, budget is at $2000-$2500 or close enough to. I'm looking to game and do my work/study. What I'm studying is Architectural Drafting so CAD and Revit.

Games id like to play (again) are Space engineers, Total War: shogun 2 and maybe Ark survival evolve. my preference is medium to high setting at (1920x1080) 1080p, 60(ish) fps.

I'm not looking to overclock or have some crazy water cooling setup

so my thinking was (Intel or Amd equivalent if they're cheap or around the same)

• i5 7500 or 7600
• GTX 1060 6gb
• 8gb of ram up to 16

here's where I get a little stuck. I know I won't be needing a Z board(again or equivalent) so like a B250 or H270 (if you choose B over the H can you tell me why please). and ATX or ITX or they're variants? so that flows to what case, easy enough. though if you have suggestion go right ahead 

what type screen to use, I only need one right now with a port for my gaming console(HDMI) to plug into as well. G-sync, Free sync, ips, tn, I don't know what'd work better for the parts. but that's why I'm here.

Power supply should be simple enough just plug all the information into PcPartPicker.

now I am going to need a cd/dvd drive. there's an LG model on PCPP that's $18 so that's easy, as for a Wi-Fi antenna/range extender, my house doesn't have Ethernet so, what's better a usb model or one you plug into the motherboard?

 

thankyou for all suggestions and advice. as I've said I'm a noob at this whole deal, so feel free to correct and suggest away.

[ARikozuM]

Barring Ark, an i5 will run those games quite well, but I'd recommend an i7-7600K with a Z-board for faster memory. If you can afford an i7-7700K, go for it for the extra clocks.

Get 16GB (2x8GB) of RAM at 2800 or 3000MHz RAM. This should leave you room to expand once you find that you NEED 32GB of RAM.

I'd recommend an ultrawide 2560x1080@75Hz monitor with that 1060 6GB. Gives great gains to RTS games and 1st-person perspective games. 

I'd go ATX for expansion unless you intend to move a lot. 

Forget G-Sync and Freesync. Go for an IPS, 2560x1080@>75Hz monitor. 

PSU should be an M12ii, G2, or equivalent from the PSU Whitelist (in my sig) and Tier 4 or higher. 

For wireless, go PCIe. AC will give you some room to expand once you bring your network to AC. I like Rosewill and TP-Link WiFi cards. 

 

[Guilty Baby]

i7s are a waste of money in most games. You'll barely see a frame rate difference, some games even lose a frame or two. AMD CPUs aren't half bad right now either. You could go with the 1600.

 

ATX and ITX is just a size difference. ATX is for full towers and ITX is more like a small box. Just google ITX or ATX cases.

 

Freesync and GSync prevents a thing called screen-tearing. Plenty of images online. If it is something that bothers you go with an AMD card because Freesync monitors are cheaper. 580 for the card or something. Most people don't notice it though.

 

ARikozuM got it covered pretty good though.

[Irumasa]

Thankyou both this is helpful

[Jurrunio]

Made this one because I got bored:

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3yFCWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3yFCWX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($297.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($93.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: GALAX - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card  ($359.00 @ Scorptec) 
Case: Azza - Triton 401 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.10 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 450W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($93.50 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24D5MT DVD/CD Writer  ($18.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($128.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-N15 PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($15.00 @ Centre Com) 
Monitor: AOC - I2481FXH 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($182.70 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Total: $1409.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 14:54 AEST+1000

It seems that your budget can get you a lot further than what you listed above

 

This is what you can get with all your budget:

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PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzPvtJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzPvtJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($297.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($189.00 @ Centre Com) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card  ($549.00 @ Scorptec) 
Case: Aerocool - XPredator ATX Full Tower Case  ($99.00 @ Centre Com) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($155.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24D5MT DVD/CD Writer  ($18.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($128.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-N15 PCI-Express x1 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($15.00 @ Centre Com) 
Monitor: BenQ - GW2765HT 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($569.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $2366.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-15 14:51 AEST+1000

 

1 hour ago, Irumasa said:

1. What I'm studying is Architectural Drafting so CAD and Revit.

2. Games id like to play (again) are Space engineers, Total War: shogun 2 and maybe Ark survival evolve. my preference is medium to high setting at (1920x1080) 1080p, 60(ish) fps.

I'm not looking to overclock or have some crazy water cooling setup

1 and 2 so my thinking was (Intel or Amd equivalent if they're cheap or around the same)

• i5 7500 or 7600
• GTX 1060 6gb
• 8gb of ram up to 16

3. I know I won't be needing a Z board(again or equivalent) so like a B250 or H270 (if you choose B over the H can you tell me why please). 4. ATX or ITX or they're variants? so that flows to what case, easy enough. though if you have suggestion go right ahead 

5. what type screen to use. G-sync, Free sync, 6. ips, tn, I don't know what'd work better for the parts. but that's why I'm here.

7. Power supply should be simple enough just plug all the information into PcPartPicker.

now I am going to need a cd/dvd drive. there's an LG model on PCPP that's $18 so that's easy, as for a Wi-Fi antenna/range extender, my house doesn't have Ethernet so, what's better 8. a usb model or one you plug into the motherboard?

1. So Ryzen CPUs with more cores are better than Intel i5s in those work.

 

2. A 1060 6G can easily do that. RX 570/580 prices go up and up after the mining craze, so I don't consider it atm

 

3. B boards come with M.2 slots for SSDs, More PCIe slots... Overall more features than H. For AMD, B350 allows overclock but A320 doesn't. That's why we usually avoid A320 boards.

 

4. ATX, mATX, ITX etc all refers to the size. ATX are the largest, then comes mATX, then ITX. Usually the smaller the cheaper. However, the smaller they are, the less expansion stuff they can hold, so mATX are used for most of us.

 

5. G-sync for Nvidia cards only and Freesync for AMD only. Reduces screen tearing which is covered by many websites. Screen tearing can be partly solved by enabling Vsync though, so this is not essential. G-sync monitors are very expensive, costing around 20%-30% more than non-G sync alternatives, so don't buy those unless you have some high-end Nvidia graphics card. Freesync monitors are just a little bit more expensive than those without, so I will recommend considering them if you have an edit(AMC AMD) graphics card.

 

6. IPS and TN are different types of panel on monitors. IPS give better graphical quality (especially on high-contrast graphics) and wider viewing angles than TN. They are more expensive, but I think it's worth it. If you have experienced IPS, you won't be going back to TN easily.

 

7. Check rating here first. The lower the number the tier, the better. Usually I'd say tier 3 or lower is fine, but since you have a budget like that, you should aim for tier 2 or lower.

 

8. I prefer PCIe WiFi so I don't have something hanging out of my case. Either type is fine in terms of performance though.

[Guilty Baby]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

I think your quote for the monitor is 200 USD more expensive that it actually is.

He could use that money to upgrade the size of the SSD or HDD depending on his needs.

[Jurrunio]

20 minutes ago, Guilty Baby said:

I think your quote for the monitor is 200 USD more expensive that it actually is.

He could use that money to upgrade the size of the SSD or HDD depending on his needs.

It's in AUD, not USD. 1 AUD is about 0.75 USD.

[Irumasa]

Thankyou all this has been very helpful