gaming build

[Guest]

I have two builds, one Intel and one AMD for mid range gaming (hopefully going to get Star Wars Battlefront 2 down the line). Could you guys compare the two and try to get them to equal performance? (preferably upgrade the Intel build, not downgrade the AMD)

 

Intel:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/xdzVnQ

 

AMD:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/4j47P6

[The Sloth]

you have to get a 5820k/ 6800k for a fair comparison with the ryzen 1600.

[Guest]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

you have to get a 5820k/ 6800k for a fair comparison with the ryzen 1600. 

i5 or i7?

[The Sloth]

Just now, NovaMan01 said:

i5 or i7?

i7 5820k/ 6800k( 6c/12t cpu) for the price your looks good. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

i7 5820k/ 6800k( 6c/12t cpu) for the price your looks good. 

am i stupid because i dont see it on PC Part Picker

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, NovaMan01 said:

am i stupid because i dont see it on PC Part Picker

5820k and 6800k are x99 CPUs 

[Guest]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

5820k and 6800k are x99 cpus 

ooooh ok

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

5820k and 6800k are x99 cpus 

could you get me a good mobo for this processor im having a hard time: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8P3FLD

[The Sloth]

3 minutes ago, NovaMan01 said:

could you get me a good mobo for this processor im having a hard time: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8P3FLD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GV7hwV get a good 4.1 GHz to to 4.5 ghz OC. 

[The Sloth]

for ryzen system get 3600 mhz ram and a better mobo. 

[Sanctorum]

17 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you have to get a 5820k/ 6800k for a fair comparison with the ryzen 1600.

"for mid range gaming"

[The Sloth]

Just now, Sanctorum said:

"for mid range gaming"

OP asked for a fair comparison, a 1600 goes head on with a 5820k or 6800k. 

[The Sloth]

OP for a budget rig get a i5 7600 vs a ryzen 1600, that would be your best bet. 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GV7hwV get a good 4.1 GHz to to 4.5 ghz OC. 

im trying really hard to stay under $1100 so keep that into account please

[Sanctorum]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

OP asked for a fair comparison, a 1600 goes head on with a 5820k or 6800k. 

He stated he would be gaming though. A 5820k/6800k will perform worse in games than a Skylake/Kaby Lake i5/i7, for the most part. An X99 CPU would also be a huge waste of money for a "mid range gaming" system. 

[The Sloth]

Just now, NovaMan01 said:

im trying really hard to stay under $1100 so keep that into account please

i know, intel overprices thair stuff 

 

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

OP for a budget rig get a i5 7600 vs a ryzen 1600, that would be your best bet. 

your pc is fine 

[Sanctorum]

Just now, NovaMan01 said:

im trying really hard to stay under $1100 so keep that into account please

What monitor(s) are you using?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

What monitor(s) are you using?

my current ones are two Acer E221H and a Dell E198WFP. Hoping to get soem cheap ass fourth one from Value Village soon

[Sanctorum]

AMD;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($244.58 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.53 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Cooler Master - Xornet II Wired Optical Mouse  ($32.98 @ Directron) 
Total: $1111.74
 You could save some money by getting a cheaper PSU and/or smaller capacity SSD.

 

Intel alternative;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($188.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($84.90 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($244.58 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.53 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Cooler Master - Xornet II Wired Optical Mouse  ($32.98 @ Directron) 
Total: $1094.71

 

i5 should perform slightly better in games for the most part, but it's a very small difference and I'd go with the R5 over the i5, for sure. I'd also recommend trying to get an RX 480/580 if you can find one, over the GTX 1060 but AMD GPUs are ridiculously hard to find right now.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

AMD;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($244.58 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.53 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Cooler Master - Xornet II Wired Optical Mouse  ($32.98 @ Directron) 
Total: $1111.74
 You could save some money by getting a cheaper PSU and/or smaller capacity SSD.

 

Intel alternative;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($188.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($84.90 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($244.58 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.53 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Cooler Master - Xornet II Wired Optical Mouse  ($32.98 @ Directron) 
Total: $1094.71

 

i5 should perform slightly better in games for the most part, but it's a very small difference and I'd go with the R5 over the i5, for sure. I'd also recommend trying to get an RX 480/580 if you can find one, over the GTX 1060 but AMD GPUs are ridiculously hard to find right now.

Heres a redo of the AMD build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NovaMan/saved/4j47P6

 

And is a VRAM drop 8GB of 6GB really too much?

[Manu Saraswat]

15 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

AMD;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($195.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($94.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($244.58 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.53 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Cooler Master - Xornet II Wired Optical Mouse  ($32.98 @ Directron) 
Total: $1111.74
 You could save some money by getting a cheaper PSU and/or smaller capacity SSD.

 

Intel alternative;

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($188.44 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($84.90 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($155.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Video Card  ($244.58 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.53 @ B&H) 
Keyboard: Corsair - Vengeance K65 Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Cooler Master - Xornet II Wired Optical Mouse  ($32.98 @ Directron) 
Total: $1094.71

 

i5 should perform slightly better in games for the most part, but it's a very small difference and I'd go with the R5 over the i5, for sure. I'd also recommend trying to get an RX 480/580 if you can find one, over the GTX 1060 but AMD GPUs are ridiculously hard to find right now.

what r u talking about..the ryzen 5 1600 outperforms the i5 7600(non-k) as is in almost everything, plus with the ryzen 1600 you always have an option of OC.

So no..picking up a ryzen 1600 is almost always a better choice. 

[Sanctorum]

12 minutes ago, Manu Saraswat said:

what r u talking about..the ryzen 5 1600 outperforms the i5 7600(non-k) as is in almost everything

Going to need a source for this claim buddy.

13 minutes ago, Manu Saraswat said:

plus with the ryzen 1600 you always have an option of OC.

Yup, not the point though.

13 minutes ago, Manu Saraswat said:

picking up a ryzen 1600 is almost always a better choice. 

"I'd go with the R5 over the i5, for sure."

[Manu Saraswat]

Just now, Sanctorum said:

Going to need a source for this claim buddy.

Yup, not the point though.

"I'd go with the R5 over the i5, for sure."

gladly..

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that whole i5 is faster was when ryzen was fairly new...as of right now after all the updates..the performance of ryzen is actually better now, plus it's cheaper, it's performance increase is actually visible when using a fast ram. So yeah..i'll say that again..I would pick a 1600 over a i5 7600 any day. 

[Sanctorum]

10 minutes ago, Manu Saraswat said:

gladly..

want another?

here- 

another?

that whole i5 is faster was when ryzen was fairly new...as of right now after all the updates..the performance of ryzen is actually better now, plus it's cheaper, it's performance increase is actually visible when using a fast ram. So yeah..i'll say that again..I would pick a 1600 over a i5 7600 any day. 

Nice ridiculously obscure YouTube channels lmfao.

 

There you go, i5-6600k at same clock speed as R5 1600x performs slightly better for the most part in games. Which is expected since Skylake IPC is better than Ryzen, and Kaby Lake is even slightly better than that. i5-7500 vs R5 1600 at stock speeds, i5-7500 will be slightly better, for the most part. Again though, as I said, I recommend Ryzen anyway since AGAIN, as I said, the difference is negligible for the most part. As for RAM speed, Intel benefits from faster RAM as well, it's just not quite as necessary as it is with Ryzen.

 

As for pricing, as you can blatantly see from my two parts list, everything exactly the same apart from mobo and CPU, the Intel option is a little over $15 cheaper. Sure, the i5-7600 is more expensive, but the 7600 is not worth the price premium over the 7500 anyway.

[Manu Saraswat]

7 minutes ago, Sanctorum said:

Nice ridiculously obscure YouTube channels lmfao.

 

There you go, i5-6600k at same clock speed as R5 1600x performs slightly better for the most part in games. Which is expected since Skylake IPC is better than Ryzen, and Kaby Lake is even slightly better than that. i5-7500 vs R5 1600 at stock speeds, i5-7500 will be slightly better, for the most part. Again though, as I said, I recommend Ryzen anyway since AGAIN, as I said, the difference is negligible for the most part. As for RAM speed, Intel benefits from faster RAM as well, it's just not quite as necessary as it is with Ryzen.

 

As for pricing, as you can blatantly see from my two parts list, everything exactly the same apart from mobo and CPU, the Intel option is a little over $15 cheaper. Sure, the i5-7600 is more expensive, but the 7600 is not worth the price premium over the 7500 anyway.

that review came out on exactly the day ryzen 5 released April 11, like I said the gaming performance has really increased like you can see in all those videos