1st build suggestions need.

[Wuveve]

I mainly use Autocad and Revit for work and play games (CS go, overwatch, dota 2.....). My budget is $1500-$2000 without tax(CAD). I would appreciate any suggestions to help me get the most out of my money. My build is current $1900.

 

Thank you for your time. 

[LienusLateTips]

Get Ryzen 5. Can't make a list right now because I am outside.

[Sir Asvald]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($226.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($54.88 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($126.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($106.42 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.44 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($376.49 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1246.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-10 13:20 EDT-0400

 

[Syncrosys]

Hi @Wuveve I figured you were in canada since your prices matched up. (so am I)

 

I went a changed a few of the parts since I figured you didnt have a K processor picked and you werent going to overclock the H series 270 was a better pick for you and save a bit of money there. And since you said you are doing Autocad, an nvidia card is your better choice BY FAR. I also picked two decent IPS panels for you. PC part picker says its including taxes. So I figured I'm on point. Also, buy your windows 10 licence off kinguin(https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/)its much cheaper. 

 

I also added faster ram because YOU WILL notice a big difference with your AutoCad use. I also opted to not put in an optical drive, because most people dont use those anymore. Up to you add.

 

So here you go:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KsX9Z8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KsX9Z8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($264.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.98 @ NCIX) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX H270F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($177.65 @ shopRBC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($133.94 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card  ($719.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.02 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.92 @ DirectCanada) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $2254.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-10 16:06 EDT-0400

[GrayTech]

Many 120mm closed loop coolers are worse then decent air coolers as far as I know.

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, Syncrosys said:

Hi @Wuveve I figured you were in canada since your prices matched up. (so am I)

 

I went a changed a few of the parts since I figured you didnt have a K processor picked and you werent going to overclock the H series 270 was a better pick for you and save a bit of money there. And since you said you are doing Autocad, an nvidia card is your better choice BY FAR. I also picked two decent IPS panels for you. PC part picker says its including taxes. So I figured I'm on point. Also, buy your windows 10 licence off kinguin(https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/)its much cheaper. 

 

I also added faster ram because YOU WILL notice a big difference with your AutoCad use. I also opted to not put in an optical drive, because most people dont use those anymore. Up to you add.

 

So here you go:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KsX9Z8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KsX9Z8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($264.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.98 @ NCIX) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX H270F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($177.65 @ shopRBC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($133.94 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card  ($719.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.02 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.92 @ DirectCanada) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $2254.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-10 16:06 EDT-0400

That cooler isn't great for the price. The stock one would do fine.

 

The board only supports 2400MHz ram so getting 3200MHz is pointless.

 

Why a GTX 1080 with a 60Hz monitor ?

 

Also Ryzen would be better for the extra cores/threads.

[Syncrosys]

XMP profile would let you do 3200 on the board. 

 

For the cooler I understand, its more of a suggestion anyway. You are the boss in the end. 

 

The GTX 1080 will make your Autocad experience better, the hz of the monitor is unrelated. The GPU handles the 2d and 3d models. If you arent going to do 3D modeling, then fine, but if you are, then the faster the card = better the performance (from hair pulling experience to good). But whatever you do, try to stay with Nvidia for Autocad for compatibility.

 

If you want to go for Ryzen, then yes. Did you want me to draft another quote with a ryzen build?

[Syncrosys]

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XWKPWX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XWKPWX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($320.50 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-A ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($133.94 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card  ($719.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.02 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.92 @ DirectCanada) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $2238.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-10 17:24 EDT-0400

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Syncrosys said:

XMP profile would let you do 3200 on the board. 

 

For the cooler I understand, its more of a suggestion anyway. You are the boss in the end. 

 

The GTX 1080 will make your Autocad experience better, the hz of the monitor is unrelated. The GPU handles the 2d and 3d models. If you arent going to do 3D modeling, then fine, but if you are, then the faster the card = better the performance (from hair pulling experience to good). But whatever you do, try to stay with Nvidia for Autocad for compatibility.

 

If you want to go for Ryzen, then yes. Did you want me to draft another quote with a ryzen build?

No it won't because the chipset doesn't support ram that fast. Only Z270 will allow for faster than 2400MHz.

 

Those 120mm AIO's are bad value. Something like a Cryorig H7 would do better if he needs an aftermarket cooler.

 

I am no expert on CAD so I can only comment on the gpu being overkill for the gaming side of things at 1080p.

 

[Syncrosys]

You are right... I must be on crack today. I havent slept in almost 24hours. I'm sorry for some reason I kept thinking I had quoted Z270, and that made no sense since I did state that it was not for OCing. 

 

And yes, the 1080 would be overkill for 1080p gaming. Its just for 3D CAD it would make huge impact. 

 

Again sorry for the oversight.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Syncrosys said:

You are right... I must be on crack today. I havent slept in almost 24hours. I'm sorry for some reason I kept thinking I had quoted Z270, and that made no sense since I did state that it was not for OCing. 

 

And yes, the 1080 would be overkill for 1080p gaming. Its just for 3D CAD it would make huge impact. 

 

Again sorry for the oversight.

No need to apologise.

 

Just wondering if he would be better with a GTX 1070 and 32GB ram over a 1080 and 16GB. Like I said though I am no expert on Autocad/Revit software 

 

Regarding the cpu I have just done a quick search and it seems that the software the op is using might benefit from a faster cpu with better single core performance such as the i7 6700K or i7 7700K so maybe Ryzen isn't the answer after all. 

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-AutoCAD-134/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-Revit-171/Hardware-Recommendations

 

[Syncrosys]

Odd my reply didn't save.

 

The 1080 is the best bang for the buck for performance with CAD. again, UNLESS he only does 2D, then the 1070 is plenty. Hell even a 1060 might do well.

[LienusLateTips]

On 6/10/2017 at 1:13 PM, Syncrosys said:

Hi @Wuveve I figured you were in canada since your prices matched up. (so am I)

 

I went a changed a few of the parts since I figured you didnt have a K processor picked and you werent going to overclock the H series 270 was a better pick for you and save a bit of money there. And since you said you are doing Autocad, an nvidia card is your better choice BY FAR. I also picked two decent IPS panels for you. PC part picker says its including taxes. So I figured I'm on point. Also, buy your windows 10 licence off kinguin(https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/)its much cheaper. 

 

I also added faster ram because YOU WILL notice a big difference with your AutoCad use. I also opted to not put in an optical drive, because most people dont use those anymore. Up to you add.

 

So here you go:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KsX9Z8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KsX9Z8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($264.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($74.98 @ NCIX) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX H270F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($177.65 @ shopRBC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($133.94 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card  ($719.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.02 @ DirectCanada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.92 @ DirectCanada) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Monitor: Asus - VP239H-P 23.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($184.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $2254.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-10 16:06 EDT-0400

i5? 1080 with i5?

120mm cooler? WHAAAAAA

 

 

 

[Syncrosys]

2 minutes ago, JDE said:

i5? 1080 with i5?

120mm cooler? WHAAAAAA

 

 

 

Ok? And? 

[Sanctorum]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($279.95 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Killer SLI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($175.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($133.94 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card  ($539.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($117.72 @ DirectCanada) 
Monitor: BenQ - BL2420PT 23.8" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($291.99 @ PC Canada) 
Monitor: BenQ - GW2470H 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor  ($159.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2038.05

 

Or you could just get the 1440p monitor for now, drop the 1080p monitor and use that extra cash towards a GTX 1080 instead of the 1070;

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/rKtWGX/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-g1-rock-video-card-gv-n1080g1-rock-8gd

 

or get a larger SSD, a 525GB MX300.

[Syncrosys]

@Sanctorum We've already established that Intel is the preferred flavor here though for his CAD usage. He just needs to tell us if he's going to be doing 3D or 2D, because that will impact what card he should use. Can definitely save a few bucks if he's a 2D CAD user. But I agree, having a 1440 monitor myself (27" though) Its so much better with CAD and PS usage. 

I'd stick with ASUS for the board too, because they offer cross-shipping warranty for faster replacement in case of RMA. May not be needed, but I'm just thinking practicality wise. I'm assuming that being a CAD user he relies on his machine for work or some income. So fast replacement is key.