980Ti vs 1070 for 4K Video editing

[JamesTWilko]

I am trying to decide which graphics card is better for 4k video editing in Adobe Premiere and some After Effects. More specifically I will be making music videos with multiple effects including chroma keying.

I am in the process of getting all the parts together to build a computer purely for video editing is it worth getting the 980ti (ASUS ROG MATRIX) or a 1070 (not sure which model) as both are around the same price on ebay in the UK . Alternatively would it be worth it just to get a 1060 or RX480 for less? My goal is to edit 4k in full quality in real time using one 1080p monitor and one 2160p monitor for the preview video. I know the 980ti has more cuda cores and possibly a higher IPC?

The parts I have so far are:

Ryzen 1700 (I plan on overclocking it with the cooler it came with)

ASUS Prime B350M-A AMD ATX Motherboard

Adata XPG 32gb 2 x 16 DDR4 ram 2800Mhz PC4-22400 memory

 

 

I have yet to get the rest of the components, I will get a power supply depending on the graphics card and I plan on getting a silent case and SSDs.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated, I don't play video games and I am using it purely for video editing.

 

[JamesTWilko]

A GTX 1080 and higher are out of my budget

[danrey84]

I would be tempted to go 980ti as it has more Cuda than a 1070 but then again a 1070 runs faster in terms of pure clock speed.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1070 is better than the 980ti, its just a faster card with more vram.

 

But for your use, id probalby just get a 1060, you don't need that much gpu power, but depends on what codecs your using.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, danrey84 said:

I would be tempted to go 980ti as it has more Cuda than a 1070 but then again a 1070 runs faster in terms of pure clock speed.

You can't compare cuda core count and clock speed between generations, the 1070 is a faster card.

[danrey84]

Its is faster im not doubting that hence why i said that but if your rendering with or via cuda the more cuda the better

[JamesTWilko]

The footage I use is MP4 100mbps 3840x2160p.

[danrey84]

There was a video on youtube that someone compared the 2 and im trying to find it for you

[JamesTWilko]

• Graphics Engine
  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 TI
• Bus Standard
  PCI Express 3.0
• OpenGL
  OpenGL®4.5
• Video Memory
  GDDR5 6GB
• Engine Clock
  GPU Boost Clock : 1075 MHz
  GPU Base Clock : 1000 MHz
• CUDA Core
  2816
• Memory Clock
  7010 MHz
• Memory Interface
  384-bit
• Resolution
  Digital Max Resolution:5120x3200
• Interface
  DVI Output : Yes x 1 (Native) (DVI-I)
  HDMI Output : Yes x 1 (Native) (HDMI 2.0)
  Display Port : Yes x 3 (Native) (Regular DP)
  HDCP Support : Yes
• Accessories
  2 x Power cable
  1 x ROG Metal Sticker
• Software
  ASUS GPU Tweak II & Driver
• Dimensions
  11.62 " x 5.44 " x 2 " Inch
  29.52 x 13.82 x5.09 Centimeter

[JamesTWilko]

- these are the specs of the 980ti I have my eye on (ASUS ROG MATRIX) not sure how it compares to other 1070s (depends on the model) I find it quite confusing trying to figure out what aspects are preferable in video editing as there doesn't seem to be much out there comparing these for video editing. Your replies are greatly appreciated, I was hoping a 1060 6gb would be enough but wasn't sure if it would stuggle with the amount of effects. If a 1060 is enough how does it compare to an RX 480?

[verytiny]

1070 is slightly better but i'd go for whatever's cheaper

 

 

[JamesTWilko]

Thanks I'm just trying to decide whether to get the 980ti 6gb for £315 or 1060 6gb for £215 Just a little worried about dropping frames while editing.

[scottyseng]

3 minutes ago, JamesTWilko said:

Thanks I'm just trying to decide whether to get the 980ti 6gb for £315 or 1060 6gb for £215 Just a little worried about dropping frames while editing.

Well, CPU also matters with video editing. Ah, pretty much, 980 Ti (overclocked) is faster, but more power. 1070 (overclocked) is just a tad bit slower, but runs cooler (50-100W less on average).

 

I own both, but I mostly do 3D modeling and not so much video editing.

 

Also, depending on the codec you use, the GPU or CPU might be used.

[Dblock]

55 minutes ago, JamesTWilko said:

Thanks I'm just trying to decide whether to get the 980ti 6gb for £315 or 1060 6gb for £215 Just a little worried about dropping frames while editing.

 

Have you looked to see what's out there second hand? £315 for a 980ti seems steep. 

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

3 hours ago, JamesTWilko said:

I am trying to decide which graphics card is better for 4k video editing in Adobe Premiere and some After Effects. More specifically I will be making music videos with multiple effects including chroma keying.

I am in the process of getting all the parts together to build a computer purely for video editing is it worth getting the 980ti (ASUS ROG MATRIX) or a 1070 (not sure which model) as both are around the same price on ebay in the UK . Alternatively would it be worth it just to get a 1060 or RX480 for less? My goal is to edit 4k in full quality in real time using one 1080p monitor and one 2160p monitor for the preview video. I know the 980ti has more cuda cores and possibly a higher IPC?

The parts I have so far are:

Ryzen 1700 (I plan on overclocking it with the cooler it came with)

ASUS Prime B350M-A AMD ATX Motherboard

Adata XPG 32gb 2 x 16 DDR4 ram 2800Mhz PC4-22400 memory

 

 

I have yet to get the rest of the components, I will get a power supply depending on the graphics card and I plan on getting a silent case and SSDs.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated, I don't play video games and I am using it purely for video editing.

 

980ti, its better than the 1070 and has more cudas, so once both cards are abandoned itll probably age better

[OnePoorMofo]

I would go with 1070 over 980 ti for multiple reasons. More Vram, less power, less heat, more OC headroom, newer technologies, and Dx 12.

• GTX 980Ti: 1455MHz
• GTX 1070: 2050MHz

[xAcid9]

Get 1070 since price is the same and it's newer. Both perform "similar" in gaming and productivity while 1070 consume less power.

[Ganz]

You notice much of a difference between the two so get whatever is cheaper for you.  You can find some used 980ti's for really good prices, so if you can find one of them I would do that.

[Masada02]

10 hours ago, OnePoorMofo said:

I would go with 1070 over 980 ti for multiple reasons. More Vram, less power, less heat, more OC headroom, newer technologies, and Dx 12.

• GTX 980Ti: 1455MHz
• GTX 1070: 2050MHz

980 TI base clock: 1000mhz

980 TI realistic OC: 1450mhz

Difference: 45% OC over base clock

 

1070 base clock: 1506mhz

1070 realistic OC: 2000mhz

Difference: 32% OC over base clock

 

The 980 TI has more OC headroom and will perform better at its max OC than a 1070 at its max OC.

 

edited to make the math make more sense

[Morgan MLGman]

2 minutes ago, Masada02 said:

980 TI base clock: 1000mhz

980 TI realistic OC: 1450mhz

% Difference: 31%

 

1070 base clock: 1506mhz

1070 realistic OC: 2000mhz

% Difference: 24%

 

The 980 TI has more OC headroom and will perform better at its max OC than a 1070 at its max OC.

That's true. Once OC'd, the 1070 will be slower than a 980Ti, however it's better to go with a newer card. The performance difference won't be significant and the power bill will be lower as the 1070 is more efficient.

[Masada02]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

That's true. Once OC'd, the 1070 will be slower than a 980Ti, however it's better to go with a newer card. The performance difference won't be significant and the power bill will be lower as the 1070 is more efficient.

That's true. At the same price the 1070 would make me happier purely from the reduced heat output and noise. But from my pure performance perspective I'd rather have a 980TI.

[pyrojoe34]

21 hours ago, JamesTWilko said:

The footage I use is MP4 100mbps 3840x2160p.

FYI: MP4 is a container, not a codec. I assume you mean h.264? Either way you shouldn't be editing h.264 directly. I recommend you use handbrake or AME to transcode the footage to an editing codec (like Cineform, ProRes, or DNxHR), edit that, then you can export to h.264 for distribution. h.264 is a compressed format which means you're decoding the files on the fly when editing which wastes power and, if adding effects, will even cause the most powerful systems to drop frames/skip (especially in 4k). h.264 is great for distribution and storage but terrible for editing.

[TheSuspect]

1070 is better than 980ti, but 1070 is a bit overkill. Especially with adobe, ram matters more than gpu power after a certain point. A 1060 is fine, a 1070 slightly overkill, 1080 is unnecessary. 

[JamesTWilko]

Thanks everyone for your responses, much appreciated!!