current imac upgrade

[tom_w141]

9 minutes ago, nxt4n said:

thats a beast pc but tbh i dont think i really need the latest and top i7 on the market maybe put in an amd ryzen 5 1600 and try and upgrade the rest of the pc a bit more ?

With these changes I was able to put you up to 4k and a 1080Ti but if you don't want to actually spend the full £1800 you can do the previous build with the R5 for ~ £1500 or cheaper if you got a cheaper case, however the tempered glass on that small-ish case is reallyyyyy nice.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.83 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£71.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£123.58 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£86.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  (£650.66 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv TG (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£108.33 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ - BL2711U 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  (£463.53 @ PC World Business)
Total: £1817.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 14:56 BST+0100

[Gaurav S Rao]

Just now, nxt4n said:

no on the pc that im going to get which should i spend more on 

Spend More on Graphics since AMD recently made their "i7 killer" "AMD Ryzen" which seems a lot sucessful,but go the AMD route if you are never going to Hackintosh since AMD Based System's cannot be hackintoshed  and that CPU (the current top of the line Ryzen 7 1800X 8 core of their's is only €420 (420 lol) and it doesnt make a huge from it's small brother CPU's,the 1700X and 1700,go for the 1700 since no huge difference for cheaper.spend a good 700€ on your gpu or maybe since you have so good of a budget,get 2 GPU's (your choice) and get plenty ram,and get a great mobo,monitor,etc,but not sure if everything in ur budget gonna fit so much stuff

[Gaurav S Rao]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

With these changes I was able to put you up to 4k and a 1080Ti but if you don't want to actually spend the full £1800 you can do the previous build with the R5 for ~ £1500 or cheaper if you got a cheaper case, however the tempered glass on that small-ish case is reallyyyyy nice.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.83 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£71.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£123.58 @ More Computers)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£133.20 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  (£650.66 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Evolv TG (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£108.33 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.99 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: BenQ - BL2711U 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  (£463.53 @ PC World Business)
Total: £1826.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 14:53 BST+0100

Why Ryzen 5 1600? bump that upto a 1700 and why so costly stuff,like why a 100€ case and why so costly monitor? There might be cheaper,and that also,no X370?

[nxt4n]

2 minutes ago, Gaurav S Rao said:

Why Ryzen 5 1600? bump that upto a 1700 and why so costly stuff,like why a 100€ case and why so costly monitor? There might be cheaper,and that also,no X370?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hNnpYr

what do you think of this ?

[tom_w141]

Just now, Gaurav S Rao said:

Why Ryzen 5 1600? bump that upto a 1700 and why so costly stuff,like why a 100€ case and why so costly monitor? There might be cheaper,and that also,no X370?

By the sound of it he is purely gaming so won't need 8 cores, 6 is plenty.

 

He asked for a small-ish case with a glass panel, this case is sexy AF

 

Its 4k to pair well with the 1080Ti and I don't suggest shitty monitors there is more to it than straight up resolution. That is a reputable brand with good reviews and it is IPS with nice rich colours.

 

You don't know much about AM4, B350 can overclock just as well and X370 is not needed unless you intend to SLI, also I was sticking to the micro atx form factor for size

[Zando_]

Here's my mITX build, on the bleeding edge of the budget with no peripherals, but then I chose the best looking components, not the most cost effective ones:

 

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/By6NHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/By6NHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£292.74 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z270i GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£178.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£135.98 @ YoYoTech) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£218.70 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£69.24 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card  (£734.77 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£108.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1888.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 15:00 BST+0100

EDIT: didn't do Ryzen since they don't have any good mITX boards yet. 

[Gaurav S Rao]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

By the sound of it he is purely gaming so won't need 8 cores, 6 is plenty.

 

He asked for a small-ish case with a glass panel, this case is sexy AF

 

Its 4k to pair well with the 1080Ti and I don't suggest shitty monitors there is more to it than straight up resolution. That is a reputable brand with good reviews and it is IPS with nice rich colours.

 

You don't know much about AM4, B350 can overclock just as well and X370 is not needed unless you intend to SLI, also I was sticking to the micro atx form factor for size

And in such a budget,you can easily fit a 1700,im doing one on pcpartpicker and then we will see,and ask him first,does he even need 4K?Ok,fine with B350,but there are better cases for cheaper,with side panels,good quality and that also s*xy af

[nxt4n]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Here's my mITX build, on the bleeding edge of the budget with no peripherals, but then I chose the best looking components, not the most cost effective ones:

 

  Hide contents

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/By6NHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/By6NHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£292.74 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z270i GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£178.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£135.98 @ YoYoTech) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£218.70 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£69.24 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card  (£734.77 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£108.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1888.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 15:00 BST+0100

 

i would love to get a pc like tht  its just i need to include the monitor in the price unfortunately i think ..

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, nxt4n said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hNnpYr

what do you think of this ?

That's pretty good but I'd change the MSI to the ASUS and maybe the gold EVGA PSU from my above R5 build. I also think the 1080Ti I chose is better but you seem to be aiming for a while theme that's fine  That's a good monitor so you are ok there too.

[nxt4n]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

That's pretty good but I'd change the MSI to the ASUS and maybe the gold EVGA PSU from my above R5 build. I also think the 1080Ti I chose is better but you seem to be aiming for a while theme that's fine  That's a good monitor so you are ok there too.

i think i would like to stick with that monitor that i chose and the phanteks case with the side panel because ts just <3 however i am down to anything for the rest of the pc i wouldnt mind some asus aura stuff inside of there  

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Here's my mITX build, on the bleeding edge of the budget with no peripherals, but then I chose the best looking components, not the most cost effective ones:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/By6NHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/By6NHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£292.74 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£92.34 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z270i GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£178.11 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£135.98 @ YoYoTech) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£218.70 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£69.24 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 GAMING iCX Video Card  (£734.77 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  (£57.60 @ Kustom PCs) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£108.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1888.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 15:00 BST+0100

 

I like that build minus the easily scratched acrylic panel (TG is nicer and more durable), also he needs a monitor. Nice apart from that. However personally if I was going mini itx I would go super small like a node 202 with water cooling mod and a blower style gpu. Just because PC that small and powerful excites me!

[Zando_]

6 minutes ago, nxt4n said:

i would love to get a pc like tht  its just i need to include the monitor in the price unfortunately i think ..

If can wait for a few months, I highly recommend waiting for x299, as the cheapest i5 is only $242 US (sadly, still 4c/4t, but it's overclockable), and they have some pretty sweet looking mITX mobos on the way. 

 

EDIT: yeah, it's supposed be available on June 26th, but it'll probs be sold out for a couple months. 

[nxt4n]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I like that build minus the easily scratched acrylic panel (TG is nicer and more durable), also he needs a monitor. Nice apart from that. However personally if I was going mini itx I would go super small like a node 202 with water cooling mod and a blower style gpu. Just because PC that small and powerful excites me!

would it be extremely costly to put in a ttb ssd or m.2 ?

[Ctown0812]

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jBkHtJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/jBkHtJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£227.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  (£67.04 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£120.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£123.58 @ More Computers) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£133.20 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£109.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Superclocked Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card  (£509.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£134.25 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£66.19 @ Alza) 
Monitor: Asus - PB277Q 27.0" 2560x1440 75Hz Monitor  (£333.44 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1826.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-02 14:49 BST+0100

12 minutes ago, nxt4n said:

no on the pc that im going to get which should i spend more on 

The above list is a good reference point.  

 

The case might be a bit overkill, but I have the 400c which is essentially the same thing, just not all tempered glass.  Its not an overly huge case that still fits an ATX motherboard and AIO cooler, if you choose to upgrade in the future.  Not to mention the RGB fans its comes with.   

 

I went with a 2tb HDD because, IMO, with game sizes increasing all the time, 2tb just makes more sense to me.  The Black series is pretty much the best money can by for HDD's but you could change it to a Blue if you'd like, or a seagate drive.  

 

500gb is a good boot drive size, enough for windows and a few programs/games that might benefit from faster drive speeds.

 

A 1080 is more than enough to give you a great experience at 1440p.  I tried to squeeze a g-sync monitor in there, but wasn't able to. 120hz would've been optimal, but 75hz is still pretty decent.  

 

Seasonic makes great PSU's and 520w is more than enough.  If you want more headroom, you could go for the 620w version.  

 

I tried to balance this build between aesthetics and performance.  Some parts aren't the most practical out there, but they look awesome (IMO).  

 

Everyone will have their own opinions on this forum about what brands they like/dislike.  Me personally, I'm a bit of and MSI fanboy.  But the truth is that all the top brands perform relatively the same.  You just gotta get something that you know you'll be happy with.  

[Gaurav S Rao]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/znbRXH

[PCPartPicker part list](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/znbRXH) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/znbRXH/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kPzK8/amd-ryzen-7-1700-30ghz-8-core-processor-yd1700bbaebox) | £275.94 @ Aria PC 
**Motherboard** | [MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/TsfmP6/msi-b350m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b350m-gaming-pro) | £74.54 @ Alza 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Bgbkcf/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk32gx4m2b3000c15w) | £250.75 @ CCL Computers 
**Storage** | [Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/TstWGX/samsung-960-pro-512gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v6p512bw) | £281.99 @ Aria PC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW9TW/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | £41.88 @ Aria PC 
**Video Card** | [Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/bd2rxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-aorus-xtreme-edition-11g-video-card-gv-n108taorus-x-11gd) | £679.98 @ Ebuyer 
**Case** | [Corsair - 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y8fp99/corsair-case-cc9011029ww) | £96.58 @ Amazon UK 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/9q38TW/corsair-power-supply-cp9020092na) | £109.98 @ Amazon UK 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **£1811.64**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-06-02 15:18 BST+0100 |

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, Ctown0812 said:

 Me personally, I'm a bit of and MSI fanboy.  But the truth is that all the top brands perform relatively the same. 

Awwwww yiss! I'm not alone in my MSI is so cool and their components look so nice feelings! 

[Ctown0812]

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Awwwww yiss! I'm not alone in my MSI is so cool and their components look so nice feelings! 

Lol yeah i really like the pro carbon series boards.  Plus their new x299 lineup looks fucking amazing.  I've had nothing but good experiences with MSI products and customer service.

[tom_w141]

15 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

If can wait for a few months, I highly recommend waiting for x299, as the cheapest i5 is only $242 US (sadly, still 4c/4t, but it's overclockable), and they have some pretty sweet looking mITX mobos on the way. 

 

EDIT: yeah, it's supposed be available on June 26th, but it'll probs be sold out for a couple months. 

X299 would require serious compromise on other components like the GPU which would make the overall PC worse.

 

Issues:

 

- No one should be buying a 4c/4t i5 now that the 6c/12t R5 exists. 4 threads are already maxed out in current titles, look at an i5 in BF1 for example all threads are at a constant 95-100% usage. The 4 thread i5 is truly dead now.

 

- X299 is not cheap and will eat up all of his budget, motherboards are predicted to start around the £300 range.

 

- X299 is not soldered like X99 was. Intel cheaped out so X299 is going to be a furnace, imagine the 7700k's thermal issues but way worse because of the higher core count/clocks. X299 is simply not the answer for anyone other than people looking to show off and they must be confident in delidding because the TIM will surely need replacing.

[nxt4n]

3 minutes ago, Ctown0812 said:

Lol yeah i really like the pro carbon series boards.  Plus their new x299 lineup looks fucking amazing.  I've had nothing but good experiences with MSI products and customer service.

all the msi lineups do look good its just that i dont really like the many red accents they put into their components

 

10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Awwwww yiss! I'm not alone in my MSI is so cool and their components look so nice feelings! 

 

[Zando_]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

-snip-

[tom_w141]

10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Awwwww yiss! I'm not alone in my MSI is so cool and their components look so nice feelings! 

 

3 minutes ago, Ctown0812 said:

Lol yeah i really like the pro carbon series boards.  Plus their new x299 lineup looks fucking amazing.  I've had nothing but good experiences with MSI products and customer service.

@nxt4n

 

Guys when doing ryzen builds please be aware MSI is having BIOS issues and long post times on AM4. Until it is confirmed to be resolved please take caution in recommending msi motherboards for Ryzen builds, their Intel boards however are fine.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, nxt4n said:

all the msi lineups do look good its just that i dont really like the many red accents they put into their components

 

 

Agree. Their higher end boards are mostly a nice black, it's just the "gaming" entry level ones that have a crap ton of red (black and red is overused IMO). And they put it all over their GPUs, but EVGA has got me covered there. 

[Ctown0812]

1 minute ago, nxt4n said:

all the msi lineups do look good its just that i dont really like the many red accents they put into their components

Yeah, black and red is kind of their thing lol.  but the pro carbon lighting is RGB the only red is under the I/O panel by the PCIE slots

[tom_w141]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

Yep I'm very disappointed regarding the lack of soldering. They also didn't price as aggressively as they should have, doesn't mater if they are 20% better than ryzen if they are >200% of the cost... For example an 8 core ryzen build total costs about £350 and an 8 core X299 is about £800 (being generous and assuming cheap motherboards will be £200)

[Ctown0812]

8 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

 

@nxt4n

 

Guys when doing ryzen builds please be aware MSI is having BIOS issues and long post times on AM4. Until it is confirmed to be resolved please take caution in recommending msi motherboards for Ryzen builds, their Intel boards however are fine.

That was back in March and there is still no fix? Well then.....