CPU upgrade

[weed]

Hello homo sapiens, i was thinking of retiring my i7 3770 and upgrade to something better, i mostly play DCS, LoL, Arma 3, Rust, Squad, P3D, and DiRT 3, i have a budget of 350US$ if you think of me getting Ryzen please include a motherboard and check if my specs are compatible (in the signature)

Thanks

[Electronics Wizardy]

you can't get much better than that, id stick with your current chip.

 

Where is your current cpu slow?

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

you can't get much better than that, id stick with your current chip.

 

Where is your current cpu slow?

in DCS, Squad, and Arma i keep getting 100% CPU usage with little FPS (i do have a GTX 460) and its really bugging me out since those are my mostly played games

[Jurrunio]

The 3770 isn't that outdated yet. My 4460 is quite a bit slower since it doesn't have hyper threading, but it didn't slow my games down most of the time.

Your GPU needs a big upgrade though, not just to an RX 550, but maybe a 570.

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, weed said:

in DCS, Squad, and Arma i keep getting 100% CPU usage with little FPS (i do have a GTX 460) and its really bugging me out since those are my mostly played games

well that 460 is your problem, not the cpu.

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

well that 460 is your problem, not the cpu.

Well the 460 stays at like 60 to 70% usage all the time, only the CPU is at 100% 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, weed said:

Well the 460 stays at like 60 to 70% usage all the time, only the CPU is at 100% 

is something else using your cpu?

[JJVGaming]

"hello homo sapiens" lol

With $350 get a GTX 1070, you will see a HUGE difference compared to the 460, like 5x FPS guranteed

 

[Luke Jackson]

3 minutes ago, weed said:

Well the 460 stays at like 60 to 70% usage all the time, only the CPU is at 100% 

The 460 is a massively outdated card. Your processor is fine for now. Buy a 1070 and you shall be happy with the results. Also, with the 100% usage, what do you have open when playing games? 

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Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

is something else using your cpu?

not really i only have Teamspeak in the background, google chrome and thats it 

[weed]

Just now, Luke Jackson said:

The 460 is a massively outdated card. Your processor is fine for now. Buy a 1070 and you shall be happy with the results. Also, with the 100% usage, what do you have open when playing games? 

 i only have Teamspeak in the background, google chrome and thats it 

[Luke Jackson]

Make sure you don't have any Malware wasting CPU cycles.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, weed said:

 i only have Teamspeak in the background, google chrome and thats it 

I guess you turned off some of your cores or lowered the frequency of the CPU. No way can an 3770 bottleneck a GTX 460 unless it's damaged. Not even my slower 4460 bottlenecked my RX 470, which is faster than the GTX 460 even by comparing the number

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Just now, Luke Jackson said:

Make sure you don't have any Malware wasting CPU cycles.

just before i posted this post i did a full scan of the computer in malwarebytes which took me 3 hours and found 0 viruses

[Luke Jackson]

Check the previous comment by Jurrino, maybe that'll help. Ill see what I can find to help you out.

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13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I guess you turned off some of your cores or lowered the frequency of the CPU. No way can an 3770 bottleneck a GTX 460 unless it's damaged. Not even my slower 4460 bottlenecked my RX 470, which is faster than the GTX 460 even by comparing the number

Ever core is on and the frequency is at 3.4Ghz and hyper threading is on

[Luke Jackson]

I would advise Upgrading your GPU then post the results on this thread or a new thread.

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Just now, Luke Jackson said:

I would advise Upgrading your GPU then post the results on this thread or a new thread.

well the best thing i can get (and fit my case) is the RX 580, i cant fit a 980Ti or a 1080Ti in my build as i have test fitted both of them

[Luke Jackson]

Well then feel free to upgrade to a 580, It will work better with your cpu and you will notice it won't strain your system as much whilst playing demanding games.

[Jurrunio]

If your gaming experience doesn't improve with new games, try reinstalling windows from scratch. This will remove any sort of malware at once, but needs a back up of personal stuff

[Krillingt75961]

4 hours ago, weed said:

well the best thing i can get (and fit my case) is the RX 580, i cant fit a 980Ti or a 1080Ti in my build as i have test fitted both of them

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-460-SE-vs-AMD-RX-580/m7703vs3923

Just gonna leave this here for you. No point in shooting yourself in the foot with a weaker GPU, especially if you have an i7.

[SSJGodemis]

Get a mini GTX 1070. The 460 is from 2011. It needs to be upgraded for better performance. 

 

Also just cause a CPU is at 100% utlization does not mean its causing a bottleneck necessarily. 

[ShoshinUK]

15 hours ago, weed said:

Hello homo sapiens, i was thinking of retiring my i7 3770 and upgrade to something better, i mostly play DCS, LoL, Arma 3, Rust, Squad, P3D, and DiRT 3, i have a budget of 350US$ if you think of me getting Ryzen please include a motherboard and check if my specs are compatible (in the signature)

Thanks

http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket 1155 (LGA1155).html

I play alot of Squad.

Your best upgrade for budget would be i7 3770k and Over Clock it. 

Obviously the GPU needs to be updated as well, Squad likes VRAM.

Sell your CPU and GPU and buy a second hand i7 3770k, a CPU cooler and a GTX 970 and you will have a major upgrade for not alot of money.

You may need  a motherboard that supports overclocking as well of course. (If you need a new mother board then it may be worth considering going to a secondhand i7 4790K).

Also RAM, you need at least 8GB of fast RAM.

Hope that helps.

 

[weed]

5 hours ago, ShoshinUK said:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket 1155 (LGA1155).html

I play alot of Squad.

Your best upgrade for budget would be i7 3770k and Over Clock it. 

Obviously the GPU needs to be updated as well, Squad likes VRAM.

Sell your CPU and GPU and buy a second hand i7 3770k, a CPU cooler and a GTX 970 and you will have a major upgrade for not alot of money.

You may need  a motherboard that supports overclocking as well of course. (If you need a new mother board then it may be worth considering going to a secondhand i5 4790K).

Also RAM, you need at least 8GB of fast RAM.

Hope that helps.

 

My mother board is the Pegatron 2AD5 (http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-pegatron-2ad5-corporation/)which has the intel chipset Z75 i dont know anything about overclocking though.

[ShoshinUK]

3 minutes ago, weed said:

My mother board is the Pegatron 2AD5 (http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-pegatron-2ad5-corporation/)which has the intel chipset Z75 i dont know anything about overclocking though.

I don't have direct knowledge on this motherboard, but it would seem the 3770k is compatible and the motherboard supports basic overclocking (a quick web search suggested people had got to stable 4.3Ghz with a half decent CPU cooler).

Which is pretty good news. You have some choices.

Personally I wouldn't bother upgrading anything. I would save up, sell that whole system and buy something more modern and fit for purpose.

Upgrading your rig is only going to yield fairly low results in actual, stable FPS increase and it's fair to say Squad will only ever demand more from our systems as the game grows in feature set and player numbers. 

But you can improve this rig, so the choice is yours.