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3 minutes ago, FlpDaMattress said:

Making it a revolutionary device is in his job title.

Jonathan Ive is Apple’s Chief Design Officer, reporting to CEO Tim Cook.

Jony is responsible for all design at Apple, including the look and feel of Apple hardware, user interface, packaging, major architectural projects such as Apple Campus 2 and Apple’s retail stores, as well as new ideas and future initiatives.

Since 1996, Jony has led Apple’s design team, which is widely regarded as one of the world’s best.

He holds over 5,000 patents and has been recognized with numerous design awards, including the Design Museum London’s first Designer of the Year in 2003, the Design and Art Direction (D&AD) President’s Award in 2005 and the Cooper-Hewitt National Design Museum’s Product Design Award in 2007.

In 2012, D&AD named Jony and his team the Best Design Studio of the past 50 years. Their work is featured in the permanent collections of museums around the world, including the Museum of Modern Art in New York and the Pompidou in Paris.

Jony earned a Bachelor of Arts degree at Newcastle Polytechnic. As an undergraduate, he twice won the Royal Society of Arts’ prestigious Student Design Award, and years later the RSA awarded him the title of Royal Designer for Industry. He also holds honorary doctorates from the Royal College of Art, the Rhode Island School of Design and Northumbria University.

A native of London, Sir Jonathan Ive was made a Knight Commander of the British Empire in 2013 “for services to design and enterprise.”

 

 

Where is that in his job title?

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Just now, FlpDaMattress said:

Show me.

Show me where the right to repair bill guarantees the sale of OEM parts to the consumer.  

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Show me where the right to repair bill guarantees the sale of OEM parts to the consumer.  

Yes, Link me to credible sources (The verge, Engadget, IFixIt, Etc..) 

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Just now, FlpDaMattress said:

Yes, Link me to credible sources (The verge, Engadget, IFixIt, Etc..) 

All you just did was encourage the creation of an impasse 

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1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

 

My contract is up in a year and I'll be replacing my 6s Plus with the 8 regardless of what the phone actually has. Unless there is no camera, haptic feedback on the on screen home button, or TouchID. 

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This is the definition of an iSheep, "I'll be replacing my 6s plus with the 8 regardless of what the phone actually has."

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Just now, Meawa said:

This is the definition of an iSheep,

I don't care.

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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I don't care.

Why not? Don't you want to defend apple users?

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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

 

4 minutes ago, FlpDaMattress said:

Making it a revolutionary device is in his job title.

Jonathan Ive is Apple’s Chief Design Officer, reporting to CEO Tim Cook.

Jony is responsible for all design at Apple, including the look and feel of Apple hardware, user interface, packaging, major architectural projects such as Apple Campus 2 and Apple’s retail stores, as well as new ideas and future initiatives.

Since 1996, Jony has led Apple’s design team, which is widely regarded as one of the world’s best.

He holds over 5,000 patents and has been recognized with numerous design awards, including the Design Museum London’s first Designer of the Year in 2003, the Design and Art Direction (D&AD) President’s Award in 2005 and the Cooper-Hewitt National Design Museum’s Product Design Award in 2007.

In 2012, D&AD named Jony and his team the Best Design Studio of the past 50 years. Their work is featured in the permanent collections of museums around the world, including the Museum of Modern Art in New York and the Pompidou in Paris.

Jony earned a Bachelor of Arts degree at Newcastle Polytechnic. As an undergraduate, he twice won the Royal Society of Arts’ prestigious Student Design Award, and years later the RSA awarded him the title of Royal Designer for Industry. He also holds honorary doctorates from the Royal College of Art, the Rhode Island School of Design and Northumbria University.

A native of London, Sir Jonathan Ive was made a Knight Commander of the British Empire in 2013 “for services to design and enterprise.”

 

 

Where is that in his job title?

 

When you design something, how do you make it better? 

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12 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

well he designs phones and computers so its not his job to revolutionize anything other than design, which he has done. 

 

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He has revolutionized design in the past, but now he's been using the same iPhone design for 3 years. 

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2 minutes ago, FlpDaMattress said:

When you design something, how do you make it better? 

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His paragraph on Apples website does not say the word revolutionize or revolutionary in it. 

 

Ive has revolutionized plenty of products throughout Apples History. 

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6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

All you just did was encourage the creation of an impasse 

I haven't seen you do anything better, Apparently fixing your own phone is still a bad thing (Because you still haven't shown me proof saying otherwise)

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Just now, Meawa said:

he's been using the same iPhone design for 3 years.

His ultimate goal for the iPhone is to make it a single slab of glass. Once he gets close there isn't much else he wants to do. 

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Just now, FlpDaMattress said:

Apparently fixing your own phone is still a bad thing

Show me where I said you should not be able to fix your own device. 

 

Stop putting words in my mouth. 

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

His paragraph on Apples website does not say the word revolutionize or revolutionary in it. 

 

Ive has revolutionized plenty of products throughout Apples History. 

How so? Seems like everything he designs has been pretty flat ever since steve left apple. (Aka: Back when i gave apple credit)

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1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

His ultimate goal for the iPhone is to make it a single slab of glass. Once he gets close there isn't much else he wants to do. 

And samsung already beat him to it three generations ago. 

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Just now, FlpDaMattress said:

designs has been pretty flat

Thats his goal. 

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Just now, FlpDaMattress said:

And samsung already beat him to it three generations ago. 

Ahahahha

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

His ultimate goal for the iPhone is to make it a single slab of glass. Once he gets close there isn't much else he wants to do. 

First of all that would be really easy to break. Unless there is some "Iron-Glass" tech in the future, that won't be happening. Also, how does that answer why he hasn't changed anything about the iPhone's design for 3 years?

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15 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The Right to repair bill would not open the user up to buying the parts, only the repair shops

You said it right here. 

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Just now, Meawa said:

First of all that would be really easy to break. Unless there is some "Iron-Glass" tech in the future, that won't be happening. Also, how does that answer why he hasn't changed anything about the iPhone's design for 3 years?

His goal is to make the iPhone as close to a slab of glass as possible. 

 

He does not care about anything else. 

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1 minute ago, FlpDaMattress said:

You said it right here. 

Where did I say that repairing your device is wrong? 

 

Where did I explicitly say that you should not be able to repair your own device. 

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1 minute ago, Meawa said:

First of all that would be really easy to break. Unless there is some "Iron-Glass" tech in the future, that won't be happening. Also, how does that answer why he hasn't changed anything about the iPhone's design for 3 years?

 

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Ahahahha

I'm serious, If it's his "ultimate goal" Why hasn't he done it yet? why has he let other companies (Samsung) do what he wants to do for a whole three generations?

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Just now, DrMacintosh said:

His goal is to make the iPhone as close to a slab of glass as possible. 

 

He does not care about anything else. 

How do you know that? And why doesn't he care about anything else, like durability, and how slippery it will be in the hands. Sure the S8 and G6 are slippery phones but at least they have metal sides to hold on to. Full glass phone would be very slippery. Also, every single iPhone 8 design rumor points towards vertical back cameras. How is that good design? I think everyone  ( >90%) can agree that vertical back cameras will be ugly.

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Just now, FlpDaMattress said:

why has he let other companies (Samsung) do what he wants to do for a whole three generations?

There is not a company that has made a smartphone that is a single slab of glass. 

 

I dont think you understand the design goal that he has. 

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Just now, Meawa said:

How do you know that?

interviews and his personality/past designs.  

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