Video editor

[Cdog580]

Hello everyone,

     I have a friend who is interested in me building him a video editing computer. he uses after effects and premier pro a lot as well as the rest of the adobe suite. i have a few questions that i would like to get opinions on:

 

1) Xeon or good i7? if xeon should i go with a dual config?

 

2) GTX 1080 or quadro? i heard SLI isn't really helpful for Adobe cc but will having 2 cards non SLI help?

 

3) i was also thinking of the following hdd config:

     2 250gb SSD in raid 0 for boot and programs

     1 250gb SSD current content drive

     1 250GB SSD scratch drive

     4 3TB HDDS in raid 10

                -or-

     2 4TB HDDs in Raid 1 for storage

 

Thank you everyone!

[killer5247]

Budget?

Country?

[Guest]

1. What Xeon? There are hundreds of them, what i7 too

 

2. 1080

 

3. Not a storage expert sorry

[Zando_]

I'd go for a Ryzen 7, as you get 8c/16t for way cheaper than even a 6c/12t i7. 

[Cdog580]

Just now, killer5247 said:

Budget?

Country?

USA and under 5k probably closer to 3 ish

[EPPHO]

Ryzen 7

[Cdog580]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

1. What Xeon? There are hundreds of them, what i7 too

 

2. 1080

 

3. Not a storage expert sorry

that's what i was curious about. i'm looking at either a 6 or 8 core processor and was looking for recommendations

[EunSoo]

4 minutes ago, Cdog580 said:

sweet

i don't like to be that guy but its spelled suite in this case. Ryzen 7 is probably your best option.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Cdog580 said:

USA and under 5k probably closer to 3 ish

ryzen 7

 

Id probably get a gtx 1060 or 1070. You really don't need that much gpu power for premiere.

 

Don't use raid 0 for drives.

 

Get fewer bigger drives.

 

Id just get a single 1tb ssd, you won't be limited by the ssd.

[Cdog580]

1 minute ago, SCGazelle said:

i don't like to be that guy but its spelled suite in this case. Ryzen 7 is probably your best option.

whoops didn't see that. thanks i edited it.

[Cdog580]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

ryzen 7

 

Id probably get a gtx 1060 or 1070. You really don't need that much gpu power for premiere.

 

Don't use raid 0 for drives.

 

Get fewer bigger drives.

 

Id just get a single 1tb ssd, you won't be limited by the ssd.

ok but do you think i should use smaller SSD for scratch disk?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Cdog580 said:

ok but do you think i should use smaller SSD for scratch disk?

good article about drive speed.

 

Id probably get a 1tb ssd for projects, and a 256 for boot.

 

Then a 6tb for old projets, then get something for backups. No need for raid.

[Zando_]

This?

 

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Pick it to pieces, boys*! 

 

*yes, and girls too! 

[Cdog580]

7 minutes ago, Cdog580 said:

ryzen 7

i thought adobe likes intel better.

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Cdog580 said:

i thought adobe likes intel better.

 

well ryzen 7 is better unless you want to spend 1000 bucks on a 6900k

[Cdog580]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

well ryzen 7 is better unless you want to spend 1000 bucks on a 6900k

i see. well are there pros and cons to using intel vs amd for it?

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Cdog580 said:

i see. well are there pros and cons to using intel vs amd for it?

 

they both work fine, amd is just cheaper for this use. 

[EunSoo]

2 minutes ago, Cdog580 said:

i see. well are there pros and cons to using intel vs amd for it?

 

read this article:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2017-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X-1800X-Performance-909/

 

things might have changed since it was written though

[OddsCrazyStuff]

The adobe suit can make use of GPU when rendering and doing other tasks, so I would work in an 1080 or better, depending on what resolution and length of projects we are talking. Also, Premier and maybe other programs can use multiple GPUs during rendering, but only uses 1 for playback.

 

As for Ryzen vs I7, so I would go for 6800k or 6850k, as they both are expected to hit 4,5GHz when overclocked, while the Ryzen once struggle to go past 4GHz.

And faster cores are better, as the Pudget link over proves. The 4 core 7700k keeps up in a lot of the tests, even with the 8 core 1800x.

Another reason for not going Ryzen, is that the Adobe suit already have had time to optimize for the I7's, while the Ryzen will need a few months or more before its there.

[Cdog580]

2 hours ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

The adobe suit can make use of GPU when rendering and doing other tasks, so I would work in an 1080 or better, depending on what resolution and length of projects we are talking. Also, Premier and maybe other programs can use multiple GPUs during rendering, but only uses 1 for playback.

 

As for Ryzen vs I7, so I would go for 6800k or 6850k, as they both are expected to hit 4,5GHz when overclocked, while the Ryzen once struggle to go past 4GHz.

And faster cores are better, as the Pudget link over proves. The 4 core 7700k keeps up in a lot of the tests, even with the 8 core 1800x.

Another reason for not going Ryzen, is that the Adobe suit already have had time to optimize for the I7's, while the Ryzen will need a few months or more before its there.

i see so you are recommending a 4 core i7? not a 6 or 8 core? also what are your thoughts on the i7 VS xeon and should i run dual xeons? is it worth it?

 

[OddsCrazyStuff]

9 minutes ago, Cdog580 said:

i see so you are recommending a 4 core i7? not a 6 or 8 core? also what are your thoughts on the i7 VS xeon and should i run dual xeons? is it worth it?

I said the 4 core 7700k can keep up thanks to its core speed, but for a dedicated video editing rig, so is the 6 core X99 I7's the best middle ground option (5820k or 6800k or 6850k). The 8, 10 and 12 cores a bit out of this budget, but depending on how you balance it so can you get the 8 core 5960x or 6900k in.

 

Xeon is more for when you need more then 128GB of ram, as adobe programs seems to only scale well to 10 cores, then the performance gain falls of hard after that.

If you need more performance past 10 cores, so is it better to look into adding another GPU and try and optimise the render for GPU rendering (different codex uses different amount on the CPU and GPUs).

[Cdog580]

1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

I said the 4 core 7700k can keep up thanks to its core speed, but for a dedicated video editing rig, so is the 6 core X99 I7's the best middle ground option (5820k or 6800k or 6850k). The 8, 10 and 12 cores a bit out of this budget, but depending on how you balance it so can you get the 8 core 5960x or 6900k in.

 

Xeon is more for when you need more then 128GB of ram, as adobe programs seems to only scale well to 10 cores, then the performance gain falls of hard after that.

If you need more performance past 10 cores, so is it better to look into adding another GPU and try and optimise the render for GPU rendering (different codex uses different amount on the CPU and GPUs).

Great Thanks!