1070/1080 bottleneck

[SlaughterSmurf]

I have a 3570k at 4.4ghz with 16gb 1600mhz ram and I'm running a 144hz G-Sync monitor. How would the bottleneck be with a 1080? If the 1080 is way too much, how would a 1070 do? 

[The Sloth]

yes it will bottleneck, get a rx470 or upgrade your cpu to i7 4770k or 4790k. 

[SlaughterSmurf]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

yes it will bottleneck, get a rx470 or upgrade your cpu to i7 4770k or 4790k. 

 okay, the RX 470 is a slower card than the 780ti I'm running now. Time for a new PC I guess  

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, SlaughterSmurf said:

 okay, the RX 470 is a slower card than the 780ti I'm running now. Time for a new PC I guess  

nope just get a 4790k and a 1080, gtx 1070 or a 1080ti. for a new pc look at ryzen 1600 cpu. 

[SlaughterSmurf]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

nope just get a 4790k and a 1080, gtx 1070 or a 1080ti. 

Why would I get an old architecture when I could get a Ryzen or 6000/7000 series CPU? Ivy Bridge is LGA 1155, devils canyon is 1150. I'd have to replace the PC anyways. 

[Brooksie359]

i would say it probably depends on the game. the gtx 1070 isn't really pushing 144hz gameplay in demanding games so when you do start to push those higher fps values you should be fine as it will be in a game that isn't super intensive. 

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, SlaughterSmurf said:

Why would I get an old architecture when I could get a Ryzen or 6000/7000 series CPU? Ivy Bridge is LGA 1155, devils canyon is 1150. I'd have to replace the PC anyways. 

 

for a cheaper alternative, build your system using ryzen 1600 or 1700. 

[Light-Yagami]

This chip is 5 years old at this point.

I advise you to get a complete new system.

If we're talking about CPU bottlenecking in games, then everything but 7700k will bottleneck to some degree..

 

[SlaughterSmurf]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

for a cheaper alternative, build your system using ryzen 1600 or 1700. 

Would I be better off with a 7600k or a 1600? The 1700 and 7700k are a bit out of my price range...

[Brooksie359]

Just now, SlaughterSmurf said:

Why would I get an old architecture when I could get a Ryzen or 6000/7000 series CPU? Ivy Bridge is LGA 1155, devils canyon is 1150. I'd have to replace the PC anyways. 

i would just upgrade your gpu first and then upgrade your cpu and motherboard later. chances are your cpu will be fine paired with a gtx 1070 or 1080. yeah you may see some bottle-necking in some games but i would expect it to only be minor. 

[FloRolf]

To give you some perspective, my 2500k heavily bottlenecks a GTX970 in CSGO. And that's at 3440x1440. So 1080p will be MUCH worse, plus with a 1080 even more so.

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, SlaughterSmurf said:

Would I be better off with a 7600k or a 1600? The 1700 and 7700k are a bit out of my price range...

not really a comparison, which is better a 6core 12 thread 5820k( 1600 is vary similar to a 5820k/ 6800k) or a 4 core 4 thread i5 7600k. 

 

[Doughmay]

1 minute ago, SlaughterSmurf said:

Would I be better off with a 7600k or a 1600? The 1700 and 7700k are a bit out of my price range...

Well, intel does better in single core. But in multicore AMD, plus amd ryzen 1600 has more cores and threads. the 1600 is a little cheaper...

[SlaughterSmurf]

Just now, Doughmay said:

Well, intel does better in single core. But in multicore AMD, plus amd ryzen 1600 has more cores and threads. the 1600 is a little cheaper...

I don't do productivity, but I plan on using this system for the next 5 years (Must make it through university), so for gaming and light multitasking (Watching netflix while playing Fallout 4 and the like) which would perform better? In pure gaming applications I see the 7600k winning majority of the time, but I'm not sure how that will translate intro real world...

[Brooksie359]

Just now, Doughmay said:

Well, intel does better in single core. But in multicore AMD, plus amd ryzen 1600 has more cores and threads. the 1600 is a little cheaper...

and it comes with a good cpu cooler 

[Brooksie359]

Just now, SlaughterSmurf said:

I don't do productivity, but I plan on using this system for the next 5 years (Must make it through university), so for gaming and light multitasking (Watching netflix while playing Fallout 4 and the like) which would perform better? In pure gaming applications I see the 7600k winning majority of the time, but I'm not sure how that will translate intro real world...

tbh i would just go with the r5 1600 because it is cheaper and comes with a good cpu cooler. also it is good to have the extra core just in case you end up doing something that would require those extra cores. 

[Doughmay]

3 minutes ago, SlaughterSmurf said:

I don't do productivity, but I plan on using this system for the next 5 years (Must make it through university), so for gaming and light multitasking (Watching netflix while playing Fallout 4 and the like) which would perform better? In pure gaming applications I see the 7600k winning majority of the time, but I'm not sure how that will translate intro real world...

Well, the respective cpus are within a few fps of eachother. Keep in mind Ryzen is still technically new so devs are still working most likely to close the gap. So it is a very close call.

[Himommies]

17 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

yes it will bottleneck, get a rx470 or upgrade your cpu to i7 4770k or 4790k. 

 

10 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

To give you some perspective, my 2500k heavily bottlenecks a GTX970 in CSGO. And that's at 3440x1440. So 1080p will be MUCH worse, plus with a 1080 even more so.

 

13 minutes ago, Light-Yagami said:

This chip is 5 years old at this point.

I advise you to get a complete new system.

If we're talking about CPU bottlenecking in games, then everything but 7700k will bottleneck to some degree..

 

The hell are you talking about.The 3570k should be fine in like 90 percent of games and the other 10 percent i doubt a 7700k will be able to handle.Sure there are a couple of titles like GTA and Metro and Tomb Raider but even in those titles you should be fine at a decent 60fps

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

 

 

The hell are you talking about.The 3570k should be fine in like 90 percent of games and the other 10 percent i doubt a 7700k will be able to handle.Sure there are a couple of titles like GTA and Metro and Tomb Raider but even in those titles you should be fine at a decent 60fps

 

 

....still a bottleneck, it will depend on what OP thinks is "fine". since OP has the money why not upgrade to something better. 

[FloRolf]

1 minute ago, Himommies said:

 

 

The hell are you talking about.The 3570k should be fine in like 90 percent of games and the other 10 percent i doubt a 7700k will be able to handle.Sure there are a couple of titles like GTA and Metro and Tomb Raider but even in those titles you should be fine at a decent 60fps

We are talking about 1080p.

My 2600k is also bottlenecking my 1080 on 1080p which is why i know exactly what i'm talking about.

I mean ofc you can run it and you'll even see better performance as with a 1070 but there's still a huge bottleneck.

[Himommies]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

....still a bottleneck, it will depend on what OP thinks is "fine". since OP has the money why not upgrade to something better. 

Pretty sure it's cheaper to get a 1080 then a 1800x or something then to get a 1600 and a 1060 and then upgrade

[The Sloth]

Just now, Himommies said:

Pretty sure it's cheaper to get a 1080 then a 1800x or something then to get a 1600 and a 1060 and then upgrade

agree, it will mostly depend on what op does with the system. 

[MrJarhead]

25 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

yes it will bottleneck, get a rx470 or upgrade your cpu to i7 4770k or 4790k. 

Not being funny but why would he get a 470 if he's running 144hz...

[Brooksie359]

Just now, Himommies said:

Pretty sure it's cheaper to get a 1080 then a 1800x or something then to get a 1600 and a 1060 and then upgrade

yeah he should upgrade the gpu first then upgrade the cpu later. upgrading the gpu is actually going to improve performance while the cpu upgrade wont do anything until you upgrade the gpu. 

[The Sloth]

Just now, MrJarhead said:

Not being funny but why would he get a 470 if he's running 144hz...

not being funny but why the hell would he pair a old 4c/4t to the most powerful gpu on the market currently?