Windows Compatibility Telemetry problem

[SandersFlor]

Hey all

 

My sister was having bad performance on her laptop.

She was running a normal hard drive, so I upgraded it to an ssd.

 

Though the laptop kept running hot.

So I decided to look at the task manager.

Guess what? 40-60% CPU usage of Windows Compatibility telemetry, and this on a core i7 (2 core, 4 thread).

 

I knew Windows telemetry was a huge issue for privacy, I didn't know it could be a bottleneck on performance...

Microsoft is pushing malware-ish spying programs onto our PC's.

Has anyone else had this issue and/or found a solution to this issue.

 

I can't take Windows 10 anymore. If it continues this way, I will switch to Linux (or even OS X ).

[Enderman]

Did you properly clean install windows when you upgraded to an SSD?

 

Telemetry is not an issue for privacy OR performance, this sounds like you screwed up the OS.

[SandersFlor]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Did you properly clean install windows when you upgraded to an SSD?

 

Telemetry is not an issue for privacy OR performance, this sounds like you screwed up the OS.

I did an exact copy of my previous disk.

I just inserted the previous HDD to see if the problem is there too, and it sure is.

And that disk is the one that came factory installed on the laptop

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, SandersFlor said:

I did an exact copy of my previous disk.

I just inserted the previous HDD to see if the problem is there too, and it sure is.

And that disk is the one that came factory installed on the laptop

Yeah, you need to do a clean install.

Cloning/migrating is just bad, and causes random OS issues like this (and many other things)

https://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/

[SandersFlor]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Yeah, you need to do a clean install.

Cloning/migrating is just bad, and causes random OS issues like this (and many other things)

https://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/

I know how to do a clean install.

How would cloning a hard drive be bad?

It's an exact copy of all the files...

I don't have time for a clean install now. If that's what needs to be done, I'll do it in the summer...

It's just horrible to work with at the moment (with the HDD too), and exams are coming soon.

[Enderman]

27 minutes ago, SandersFlor said:

I know how to do a clean install.

How would cloning a hard drive be bad?

It's an exact copy of all the files...

I don't have time for a clean install now. If that's what needs to be done, I'll do it in the summer...

It's just horrible to work with at the moment (with the HDD too), and exams are coming soon.

The OS gets confused or something, idk why, its sensitive.

I have seen thousands of people get issues like this after cloning/migrating windows.

Every time a motherboard or OS drive is changed, windows should be clean installed to prevent issues such as

-no boot

-blue screens

-lag in all programs

-high disk usage

-high CPU usage

-high ram usage

-high network usage

-programs not working correctly

-programs failing to install/uninstall

-or a million other issues which indicate a screwed up OS that needs a clean install.

 

I have seen people get all of these, and if sfc /scannow in command prompt doesn't fix it then you need to clean install.

If you had clean installed in the first place, which is the proper way to do things, you wouldn't have this problem right now

[SandersFlor]

1 hour ago, Enderman said:

If you had clean installed in the first place, which is the proper way to do things, you wouldn't have this problem right now

I also have this problem with the old HDD.
So it didn't just appear out of nowhere...

It just also copied the problem...

I will try running a few scans and turning off telemetry, and if that doesn't do it.
I will listen and do a clean install.

 

Sorry for wasting your time.

Have a nice day!

[GoodBytes]

When you clone a drive, you copy bit by bit everything from one drive to the other. You are not doing a copy operation of files.

There is no or limited error correcting (depending on the solution you use). In addition, passing from 2 non-identical (absolute identical that is), drive, you are asking for problem. HDD and SSD are world apart on how they work.

 

You always always always want to do a clean install. never a clone. What you can do however is a disk image (an ISO but for HDD/SDD), which acts like a copy operation (but also include partitions and their information, etc.). But this is time consuming, because you need to make it, then you need to send it to the SSD. This is great and best when you deploy a bunch of computers in a company, where clean install would be slower. But in your case, clean install would be faster, even if you have a lot of data.

[SandersFlor]

3 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

You always always always want to do a clean install.

 

5 hours ago, Enderman said:

you wouldn't have this problem right now

Hey

While I get why, and agree that a clean install is better (thanks for the explanation).

I just ran an antivirus scan and disabled all of windows' data collection stuff following Barnacules' video guide,

and my CPU usage in idle alwyas stays under 10% now. Often it's even at 1-2%.

 

Now I will do a clean install of windows this summer, but this will get my sister through the exams.

The laptop flies through tasks, as expected with an SSD.

Thanks for your responses!

[GoodBytes]

3 hours ago, SandersFlor said:

 

Hey

While I get why, and agree that a clean install is better (thanks for the explanation).

I just ran an antivirus scan and disabled all of windows' data collection stuff following Barnacules' video guide,

and my CPU usage in idle alwyas stays under 10% now. Often it's even at 1-2%.

 

Now I will do a clean install of windows this summer, but this will get my sister through the exams.

The laptop flies through tasks, as expected with an SSD.

Thanks for your responses!

That works and sounds like a plan.  But, please don't think you actually disabled the telemetry, his video is filled with miss information, that MS docs proves him wrong, but refuses to correct himself, and continue to spread this crap as he gets mass views.

[demonix00]

12 hours ago, Enderman said:

Did you properly clean install windows when you upgraded to an SSD?

 

Telemetry is not an issue for privacy OR performance, this sounds like you screwed up the OS.

No....

 

Windows compatibility telemetry (or as I refer to it windows crapability telemetry) is a total hard drive hog when its running and I'm always having to kill it to get everything back in my control.

[Enderman]

31 minutes ago, demonix00 said:

No....

 

Windows compatibility telemetry (or as I refer to it windows crapability telemetry) is a total hard drive hog when its running and I'm always having to kill it to get everything back in my control.

Well then explain why all my PCs (which have been clean installed properly btw) it uses 0%.

[demonix00]

To kill it in windows 10, you have to put your tinfoil helmet on and use something like spybot anti-beacon which will (possibly, since I haven't even used it) either kill or stop the data harvesting apps from being able to connect.

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, demonix00 said:

To kill it in windows 10, you have to put your tinfoil helmet on and use something like spybot anti-beacon which will (possibly, since I haven't even used it) either kill or stop the data harvesting apps from being able to connect.

You can't block it. You can reduce it. which you can already do from the Settings panel. Windows just ignores all firewall, host, and whatever you do. This is aggressiveness is to avoid malware/virus to redirect traffic to their servers. 

[SandersFlor]

On 5/7/2017 at 10:19 PM, GoodBytes said:

That works and sounds like a plan.  But, please don't think you actually disabled the telemetry, his video is filled with miss information, that MS docs proves him wrong, but refuses to correct himself, and continue to spread this crap as he gets mass views.

I'm sure Windows is still collecting some data, but at leat it's not obtrusive to my sister's workflow any more...