Failure to post

[brittains]

I am assembling a pc for the first time in about 12 years so this is basically new for me. 

Every part I am working with is "new" and they are as follows.

 MSI Z170I Gaming Pro AC LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard 
SeaSonic SSR-450RM 450W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC ...
Intel Pentium G4560 Kaby Lake Dual-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 1151 54W BX80677G4560 Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics ...
 G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform ...

 MyDigitalSSD 240GB (256GB) BPX 80mm (2280) M.2 PCI Express 3.0 x4 (PCIe Gen3 x4) NVMe MLC SSD
ASUS VZ239H Frameless 23” 5ms (GTG) IPS Widescreen LCD/LED Monitors, HDMI 1920 x 1080 Ultra-Slim Design, w/ Eye ... (this I tested with laptop and same HDMI cable, can verify working)
MSI Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX ... (not even worrying about this until I get bios)


When the computer is powered on:
The PSU fan spins up;
The CPU fan spins up
for a split second the CPU debug light flashes on MOBO.
screen reports no signal. 

Things I have tried:
Turning it on and off again;
Turning it OFF and ON again;
TURNING>>>...;

Reduced ram to just one slot (furthest first, closest second) 
Removed ram entirely;
Re-seated CPU;
re-seated the 24 and 8 pin and cpu fan connectors;

tried to post with no HDD;
drank some wine to see if it'd work if I tried later;
looked at the manual.

Am I missing anything?
And if something is broken is there a way to tell if it's the brand new cpu or the open box item MOBO. (newegg says they test open box but I am leaning towards the mobo as I've never heard of a bad cpu)

 

[AvocadosGuac]

Maybe the MOBO bios isnt working with that CPU.

 

You may need to get a new bios installed before it works with it.

 

Or return the mobo and get a b250/h270/z270 mini itx.

[brittains]

7 minutes ago, Jrock said:

Maybe the MOBO bios isnt working with that CPU.

 

You may need to get a new bios installed before it works with it.

 

Or return the mobo and get a b250/h270/z270 mini itx.

Is there something I am not seeing that would suggest a z170 mobo would not work with a G4560? 
The specs on the MOBO claim to support i7/i5/i3/pentium/celeron and the sockets are the same. 
Also I am assuming there's no way to install a different bios if it won't post. 
Is my issue that this mobo isn't new enough for my Kaby lake pentium?

[AvocadosGuac]

Just now, brittains said:

Is there something I am not seeing that would suggest a z170 mobo would not work with a G4560? 
The specs on the MOBO claim to support i7/i5/i3/pentium/celeron and the sockets are the same. 
Also I am assuming there's no way to install a different bios if it won't post. 
Is my issue that this mobo isn't new enough for my Kaby lake pentium?

Sooo Skylake came out with the b150/h170/z170 boards.

You're using kaby lake which is b250/h270/z270.

The socket is the same, but the BIOS's may not be compatible with a kaby lake CPU..

[brittains]

1 minute ago, Jrock said:

Sooo Skylake came out with the b150/h170/z170 boards.

You're using kaby lake which is b250/h270/z270.

The socket is the same, but the BIOS's may not be compatible with a kaby lake CPU..

Thanks, Jrock, good call on that - never would've thought about that. 

Went on the msi page to check and my cpu is listed as compatible.  

[AvocadosGuac]

3 minutes ago, brittains said:

Thanks, Jrock, good call on that - never would've thought about that. 

Went on the msi page to check and my cpu is listed as compatible.  

With a bios update.

 

 

Quote

TypeAMI BIOSLanguageEnglish

Release Date2016-10-19Version1.A

File Size6.62 MBFileDownload

Description- Supported next generation new Intel CPU.

If the bios version is 1.A then you're fine.

 

Below, you're screwed.

[brittains]

Just now, Jrock said:

With a bios update.

 

 

If the bios version is 1.A then you're fine.

 

Below, you're screwed.

I have a friend that can mail me an old second gen i5.

In theory it should work with that right? Then I could apply bios update? -and if it doesn't work with that then I know my mobo is broken, right?

[Zusafek]

1 hour ago, brittains said:

I have a friend that can mail me an old second gen i5.

In theory it should work with that right? Then I could apply bios update? -and if it doesn't work with that then I know my mobo is broken, right?

Yes. You can update your bios with a skylake cpu then swap over to your kaby lake cpu with no issues. I had to do that for my Haswell refresh chip for my z87 board. 

[brittains]

Hey I got everything working a day or two ago just wanted to say thank you for the help, that was all driving me crazy. 

[AvocadosGuac]

34 minutes ago, brittains said:

Hey I got everything working a day or two ago just wanted to say thank you for the help, that was all driving me crazy. 

Good good.