ryzen problems

[komar]

Just got my new CPU + MB combo last friday and since then its notthing but disasters. After 3 days, many reinstalls, many BIOS updates, many CMOS clears I finnaly managed to get it to boot (fast) into a windows 10 (the newest ISO I could find)  and not BSOD because of the clock (fix to that is to bump the ram speed up). The problem I have is that when I try to install nvidia drivers it freezes on Installing 3D Vision Driver....

Any ideas of what could cause this or any possible fixes?

 

System specs:

AMD Ryzen 1500x

ASrock x370 killer sli

HyperX Savage 3000 MHz 8 GB ram

GTX 960

and some other parts that are needed to work and are not important

[Guest]

Could be software problems  as well, try DDU and install all the drivers from the official nvidia site again.

[tom_w141]

@komar why are you dialing in things like RAM oc before getting drivers installed/updated. If im reading OP right then that is what you are doing. RAM oc is your most likely cause of instability.

 

What you should do (with any new hardware):

 

- Clean OS install

- Update OS

- Install/Update all hardware drivers

- CPU OC

- Test

- RAM OC

 

Also did you check your ram is compatible at the rated speed? Safest bet with ryzen atm is to use corsair vengeance LPX, G Skill Ripjaws V or G Skill Flare.

 

RAM check: http://rymem.vraith.com or the motherboard manufacturer QVL list.

[Morgan MLGman]

8 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Also did you check your ram is compatible at the rated speed? Safest bet with ryzen atm is to use corsair vengeance LPX, G Skill Ripjaws V or G Skill Flare.

Corsair Vengeance LED also works from what I've seen.

[MimigaKing]

1 hour ago, komar said:

Just got my new CPU + MB combo last friday and since then its notthing but disasters. After 3 days, many reinstalls, many BIOS updates, many CMOS clears I finnaly managed to get it to boot (fast) into a windows 10 (the newest ISO I could find)  and not BSOD because of the clock (fix to that is to bump the ram speed up). The problem I have is that when I try to install nvidia drivers it freezes on Installing 3D Vision Driver....

Any ideas of what could cause this or any possible fixes?

 

System specs:

AMD Ryzen 1500x

ASrock x370 killer sli

HyperX Savage 3000 MHz 8 GB ram

GTX 960

and some other parts that are needed to work and are not important

Do you have the creator update? W10 Version 1703 (OS Build 15063.138) or higher?

boot windows, open your task manager in the performance tab and leave for 20 mins. Is your pc frozen with 100% Disk Usage? 

 

If you answered yes to all these questions, it's a bug I've experienced on my 1400 as well. I couldn't find what causes it or how to fix it.

 

To my knowledge, it's only affecting Ryzen R5 serie as I do not have the issue on my 1700 and have been rock solid with the creator update. 
 

The only option is to go back to an older version of Windows 10, either 10240 or 10586 works fine on my 1400. But if I try to install 15063, it just hangs after 5-10 minutes and I have force shutdown my pc. 

[komar]

4 minutes ago, MimigaKing said:

Do you have the creator update? W10 Version 1703 (OS Build 15063.138) or higher?

boot windows, open your task manager in the performance tab and leave for 20 mins. Is your pc frozen with 100% Disk Usage? 

The ISO I have says 15063.0.170317-1834 so idk what it is

Before I installed the nvidia drivers it would freeze midway throu the install with no disk usage at all ( no hdd led blinking  - cant open task manager to see) and now it again started giving BSODs with CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT

 

I've been reading another thread on the forum for a guy with similar problems - at the end it turned out that his memory wasnt on the supported list.

 

MimigaKing have you checked this on your system? - supported ram?

Mine is also unsuported (supports the same model but 2666 MHz) but knowing that it SHOULD run at the max speed the mb supports and hoping it will be added with bios update I went for it. At the worst case I will have to return the RAM...

 

[WereCat]

Maybe OC after you set everything up first? Also OC just one thing at a time to know what causes instability issues.

[komar]

2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Maybe OC after you set everything up first? Also OC just one thing at a time to know what causes instability issues.

I'm OCing for 2 reasons

1 - there is a problem with ryzen that if your memory is too slow it may take 3-5 mins to boot even on NVME ssds - I had it before on 2133

2 - also idk where I saw that 1 possible way to stop that clock BSOD is to increase 1 speed (cant tell you the exact name right now - ram cache speed or something like this)

[Constantin]

Same old AMD compatibility issues....

[ManiaKsLV]

I don't know what different but i have ASUS x370 PRO and R7 1700. I downloaded the latest  ISO file from microsoft page. And then flash it in USB stick. And simple use my WIN 10 64 bit machine without any problems. Never shut downs or BSOD. No driver issues. But i use AMD GPU. I heard that Nvidia have this problem with older win 10 iso's. Need the latest one.

[ManiaKsLV]

4 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Same old AMD compatibility issues....

I have Intel compatibility issues too with first DD4 ram. So nothing special! 

[komar]

3 minutes ago, ManiaKsLV said:

I downloaded the latest  ISO file from microsoft page

working on that right now + testing the RAM for errors.

[tom_w141]

34 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Maybe OC after you set everything up first? Also OC just one thing at a time to know what causes instability issues.

Exactly this. As I tried to say above.

 

29 minutes ago, komar said:

I'm OCing for 2 reasons

1 - there is a problem with ryzen that if your memory is too slow it may take 3-5 mins to boot even on NVME ssds - I had it before on 2133

2 - also idk where I saw that 1 possible way to stop that clock BSOD is to increase 1 speed (cant tell you the exact name right now - ram cache speed or something like this)

I'm a ryzen user and know the benefit of faster RAM, that is not what people are saying. We are saying it is silly to be doing anything except stock 2133MHz during system setup. You get stable and THEN you OC CPU/RAM.

 

EDIT: Also knowingly buying unsupported RAM was not the best move imo... It is true that a RAM speed/compatibility update is due in May but it is still risky to bet on this.