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for my 18th birthday I wanted to build my first PC after watching Linus since early 2014 and finale saved up and want some tips and tricks to make the best first build expreience.

 

i have 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FWzyTH

 

CPU  
Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
$329.99  
CPU Cooler  
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
$19.99 **
Motherboard  
Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
$186.99  
Memory  
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$122.89 **
Storage  
Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
$127.98  
   
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$69.99  
Video Card  
Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
$418.00  
Case  
Fractal Design Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case
$82.99 **
Power Supply  
Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
$79.99 **
Operating System  
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
$88.58 **
         
Total:     $1,527.39

 

 

** parts i have already purchased

(i have enough money but i just haven't spent it, im a saver not a spender but if i spend i want it to last 5+ years)

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I would upgrade your CPU cooler to something like the Cryorig H7, much better and will give you better overclocking head room. Everything else looks good to me. You will be extremely happy with the build :) 

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What are you doing with this pc?

 

Assuming it's for gaming, a 960 evo is a waste of money as it doesn't improve boot times or app launch times over a sata ssd. Get an 850 evo instead.

 

You might also want to get windows from kinguin instead and save some money.

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i could be wrong but i think like most beginning pc builders you probably don't have plans to overclock your cpu as it is a little more complex than the gpu (in my opinion) so you probably don't need the k skew. And also you should reconsider getting the i7 and instead opting for the i5 (7600 or 7600k if you desire to oc) and with those cost savings upgrade to a gtx 1080 unless you want to stream games or edit videos which in that case go for the i7 with the 1080 and i5 you should see a performance gain in games for about the same cost

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

What are you doing with this pc?

 

Assuming it's for gaming, a 960 evo is a waste of money as it doesn't improve boot times or app launch times over a sata ssd. Get an 850 evo instead.

 

You might also want to get windows from kinguin instead and save some money.

Its for gaming and school work (video editing and learning to code) and I went with the 960 just for the M.2 so I have less cables 

and i got windows 10 Pro from an IT friend for $35. and im not planing on overclocking but want the ability to if I feel like it

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1 minute ago, fordpower said:

Its for gaming and school work (video editing and learning to code) and I went with the 960 just for the M.2 so I have less cables 

and i got windows 10 Pro from an IT friend for $35. and im not planing on overclocking but want the ability to if I feel like it

If you're video editing then the 960 evo is justified, but you should also consider a 1700.

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I think you're spending way too much on your board and a little too much on your SSD. Here is the rest of your system as planned:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($418.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1212.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Here is what I would do for cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($113.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($107.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1181.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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A GTX 1080 is 20-25% faster than a GTX 1070, and thus is going to last longer for sure. We're not talking a small difference here, and the 1080 I selected is only 15% more expensive than the 1070 you picked. Go 1080 here. The SSD I picked will load into Windows and run your games just as well as the more expensive 960 EVO, and still fits in an M.2 slot.

 

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30 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

If you're video editing then the 960 evo is justified, but you should also consider a 1700.

Does it help much on video editing? I thought the point of the fast NVME SSDs was more for having quick enough writes that you could capture really high bitrate video live that a SATA SSD couldn't handle. I don't do a lot of video editing though (mostly just simple things like adding a deinterlace filter and compressing when say I'm backing up something I recorded on VHS tape 25 years ago) so I could be wrong. I wouldn't think the drive would be much of a deal if you're just editing content you already have, virtually all your time is going to spent in the compression (especially if you're doing 2-pass compression for a smaller file size at the same quality).

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5 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Does it help much on video editing? I thought the point of the fast NVME SSDs was more for having quick enough writes that you could capture really high bitrate video live that a SATA SSD couldn't handle. I don't do a lot of video editing though (mostly just simple things like adding a deinterlace filter and compressing when say I'm backing up something I recorded on VHS tape 25 years ago) so I could be wrong. I wouldn't think the drive would be much of a deal if you're just editing content you already have, virtually all your time is going to spent in the compression (especially if you're doing 2-pass compression for a smaller file size at the same quality).

Yeah, for video editing nvme is worth it. For normal users I don't recommend nvme but for prosumers (video editors included) nvme is worth it IMO.

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1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

Yeah, for video editing nvme is worth it. For normal users I don't recommend nvme but for prosumers (video editors included) nvme is worth it IMO.

Out of curiosity, what's the bottleneck NVME alleviates for video editing? In all my experience load times are pretty meaningless and virtually all my time is spent running x264 to compress. Does it make a difference because of intermediate files or something? I do have to say I'm never working with source material at a resolution above 1080p 60 fps (and often work with 480i).

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4 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Out of curiosity, what's the bottleneck NVME alleviates for video editing? In all my experience load times are pretty meaningless and virtually all my time is spent running x264 to compress. Does it make a difference because of intermediate files or something? I do have to say I'm never working with source material at a resolution above 1080p 60 fps (and often work with 480i).

I'm not 100% sure on this but I'm pretty sure loading up files is pretty dependent on ssd performance, as well as exporting the video.

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3 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

I think you're spending way too much on your board and a little too much on your SSD. Here is the rest of your system as planned:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($186.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card  ($418.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1212.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Here is what I would do for cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($113.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($107.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1181.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-22 21:37 EDT-0400

 

A GTX 1080 is 20-25% faster than a GTX 1070, and thus is going to last longer for sure. We're not talking a small difference here, and the 1080 I selected is only 15% more expensive than the 1070 you picked. Go 1080 here. The SSD I picked will load into Windows and run your games just as well as the more expensive 960 EVO, and still fits in an M.2 slot.

 

 

3 hours ago, DocSwag said:

If you're video editing then the 960 evo is justified, but you should also consider a 1700.

i know it is bad but the reason i went with the ASUS board is brand loyalty I have as my daily driver is an ASUS UX501J Pro, and I may be moving my computer around the house if i get a Vive (they are around half the price on ebay I saw one for $350) and don't have networking in my room and the built in WI-FI on that board is good i hear. the reason i went with the i7-7700K over the Ryzen 1700 is it is a new platform and im mot shure if the kinks are worked out yet, and the first computer i had bought new 5 years ago had an AMD processor and it was quite crap (E2 vision) and all my previous computers were hammy downs and Intel based and I don't recall having problem with them, so i still have a bad taste in my mouth with AMD. i would like more cores for when i do heavy work but not shure if I can trust AMD yet for I am quite brand loyal, hence my username.

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i know it is bad but the reason i went with the ASUS board is brand loyalty I have as my daily driver is an ASUS UX501J Pro, and I may be moving my computer around the house if i get a Vive (they are around half the price on ebay I saw one for $350) and don't have networking in my room and the built in WI-FI on that board is good i hear. the reason i went with the i7-7700K over the Ryzen 1700 is it is a new platform and im mot shure if the kinks are worked out yet, and the first computer i had bought new 5 years ago had an AMD processor and it was quite crap (E2 vision) and all my previous computers were hammy downs and Intel based and I don't recall having problem with them, so i still have a bad taste in my mouth with AMD. i would like more cores for when i do heavy work but not shure if I can trust AMD yet for I am quite brand loyal, hence my username.

Brand loyalty doesn't mean you should buy a $187 motherboard at the cost of 20-25% worse gaming performance, which is your opportunity cost of throwing away so much money on a board. Especially when you're not overclocking. Why have so much brand loyalty if this is your first build? You're making a huge mistake wasting money on board. I did the exact same thing when I built my first high-end gaming system and it was stupid. I blew too much money on an Abit KR7A-RAID motherboard and ended up going with the cheaper ATi Radeon 8500 gpu instead of the better Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti 500. I mean it was the most badass overclocking board on the market then (you could adjust the FSB in the BIOS 1 MHz at a time instead of using jumpers and such, which is how you overclocked back in those days). But the better gpu would have made more difference, and this was 16 years ago when the cpu mattered a lot more than it does now for gaming.

 

I wouldn't have brand loyalty to Asus, they're nothing special. I used to love Asus too until I bought an Asus Nexus 7 tablet that was ok for a year and then the screen died about two months after it went out of warranty. MSI, Gigabyte, AsRock, Asus, EVGA, they're all the same. They all make some great products and they all make some real underwhelming stuff too.

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7 hours ago, fordpower said:

 

i know it is bad but the reason i went with the ASUS board is brand loyalty I have as my daily driver is an ASUS UX501J Pro, and I may be moving my computer around the house if i get a Vive (they are around half the price on ebay I saw one for $350) and don't have networking in my room and the built in WI-FI on that board is good i hear. the reason i went with the i7-7700K over the Ryzen 1700 is it is a new platform and im mot shure if the kinks are worked out yet, and the first computer i had bought new 5 years ago had an AMD processor and it was quite crap (E2 vision) and all my previous computers were hammy downs and Intel based and I don't recall having problem with them, so i still have a bad taste in my mouth with AMD. i would like more cores for when i do heavy work but not shure if I can trust AMD yet for I am quite brand loyal, hence my username.

Ryzen is giving you double the cores for the same price, that's gonna vastly improve some parts of content creation.

 

5 years ago AMD WAS crap. That was back in the bulldozer era when AMD's CPUs were pretty much literal crap. Ryzen isn't literal crap.

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10 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Out of curiosity, what's the bottleneck NVME alleviates for video editing? In all my experience load times are pretty meaningless and virtually all my time is spent running x264 to compress. Does it make a difference because of intermediate files or something? I do have to say I'm never working with source material at a resolution above 1080p 60 fps (and often work with 480i).

I just found this source showing the difference between an Intel 750 series ssd and 850 pro. You can see that in quite a few cases nvme drives help a lot.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CC-2015-4-Storage-Optimization-854/

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11 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Brand loyalty doesn't mean you should buy a $187 motherboard at the cost of 20-25% worse gaming performance, which is your opportunity cost of throwing away so much money on a board. Especially when you're not overclocking. Why have so much brand loyalty if this is your first build? You're making a huge mistake wasting money on board. I did the exact same thing when I built my first high-end gaming system and it was stupid. I blew too much money on an Abit KR7A-RAID motherboard and ended up going with the cheaper ATi Radeon 8500 gpu instead of the better Nvidia GeForce 3 Ti 500. I mean it was the most badass overclocking board on the market then (you could adjust the FSB in the BIOS 1 MHz at a time instead of using jumpers and such, which is how you overclocked back in those days). But the better gpu would have made more difference, and this was 16 years ago when the cpu mattered a lot more than it does now for gaming.

 

I wouldn't have brand loyalty to Asus, they're nothing special. I used to love Asus too until I bought an Asus Nexus 7 tablet that was ok for a year and then the screen died about two months after it went out of warranty. MSI, Gigabyte, AsRock, Asus, EVGA, they're all the same. They all make some great products and they all make some real underwhelming stuff too.

so would the

$139.99

and

$499.99 -$40.00 FREE   $459.99 Newegg   Buy
 
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over what i currently picked

 

 

$186.99

$418.00

 

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4 hours ago, fordpower said:

so would the

$139.99

and

$499.99 -$40.00 FREE   $459.99 Newegg   Buy
 
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over what i currently picked

 

 

$186.99

$418.00

 

It would be significantly better, though I'd still prefer the more expensive open air GTX 1080 that I posted with the cheaper board. The blower style cards are more for when you have a cramped system that can't move air through it very well, 

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If you go Intel, get a 6700k, not a 7700k.

$150-160 is more than enough for a GOOD Z170/Z270 motherboard.

Get rid of the 212 EVO, it sucks. 

I wouldn't get an NVMe SSD just for the sake of it being an m.2 drive. Plus, you've got an HDD in there anyway so a 2.5" drive is going to use one more cable, literally one extra small SATA data cable.

Case and PSU are fine.

I have no idea why anyone is recommending a GTX 1080, if you're using a 1080p monitor even a GTX 1070 is OVERKILL. People need to stop recommending overpriced GPUs before knowing the situation. Even for 1080p144 or 1440p, a GTX 1070 would be plenty fine.

 

I'd recommend getting an R5 1600 instead of an i7 to be honest. Only time the i7 is going to benefit you over an R5 1600 really, is 1080p 144Hz gaming.

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3 hours ago, Sanctorum said:

If you go Intel, get a 6700k, not a 7700k.

$150-160 is more than enough for a GOOD Z170/Z270 motherboard.

Get rid of the 212 EVO, it sucks. 

I wouldn't get an NVMe SSD just for the sake of it being an m.2 drive. Plus, you've got an HDD in there anyway so a 2.5" drive is going to use one more cable, literally one extra small SATA data cable.

Case and PSU are fine.

I have no idea why anyone is recommending a GTX 1080, if you're using a 1080p monitor even a GTX 1070 is OVERKILL. People need to stop recommending overpriced GPUs before knowing the situation. Even for 1080p144 or 1440p, a GTX 1070 would be plenty fine.

 

I'd recommend getting an R5 1600 instead of an i7 to be honest. Only time the i7 is going to benefit you over an R5 1600 really, is 1080p 144Hz gaming.

I went with 7700k over the 6700k because a difference of $5-15 ill take the higher end one, i went with the 212 EVO over what i originally planed the Noctua NH-L9i or NH-L9a (I don't remember which one) because I later though if it was to small for the TDP of the 7700k and my friend recommended the 212 EVO which still fits in the Z axis in the quite small define c case, but legacy99 and Being Delirious recommended the Cryorig H7 but i have never heard of it and don't know if it is good enough for long term use (5+ years) and for height limits.

 

also using a 1080p monitor and im more of a casual gamer (Besiege, Cities Skylines, Forza Horizon 3, just cause 3, rocket league, planet coaster, gang beasts) and trying to get into more demanding games (GTA V, fallout 4), at 60FPS (I want to experience it) because anything is an upgrade from my 900p 30FPS XBOX one, and light content creation (ive done 6 3min long videos this year)  but would like to do and learn more, I am also doing audio mixes for school.

 

Even though I love to talk about computers that do a million FPS in 25K in crisis 3 I don't need that yet, even though it is a "gaming" computer it is my workhorse do everything I need as a highschool student. I need reliability, longevity and if I need to portability but I understand the 1080 is better in every way even in the long hall, dare i say "futureproof". I picked highend well known companies and products hoping for quality and reliability, $1500 is a lot expressly for a student im just hoping is is good enough.

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8 hours ago, fordpower said:

I went with 7700k over the 6700k because a difference of $5-15 ill take the higher end one, i went with the 212 EVO over what i originally planed the Noctua NH-L9i or NH-L9a (I don't remember which one) because I later though if it was to small for the TDP of the 7700k and my friend recommended the 212 EVO which still fits in the Z axis in the quite small define c case, but legacy99 and Being Delirious recommended the Cryorig H7 but i have never heard of it and don't know if it is good enough for long term use (5+ years) and for height limits.

 

also using a 1080p monitor and im more of a casual gamer (Besiege, Cities Skylines, Forza Horizon 3, just cause 3, rocket league, planet coaster, gang beasts) and trying to get into more demanding games (GTA V, fallout 4), at 60FPS (I want to experience it) because anything is an upgrade from my 900p 30FPS XBOX one, and light content creation (ive done 6 3min long videos this year)  but would like to do and learn more, I am also doing audio mixes for school.

 

Even though I love to talk about computers that do a million FPS in 25K in crisis 3 I don't need that yet, even though it is a "gaming" computer it is my workhorse do everything I need as a highschool student. I need reliability, longevity and if I need to portability but I understand the 1080 is better in every way even in the long hall, dare i say "futureproof". I picked highend well known companies and products hoping for quality and reliability, $1500 is a lot expressly for a student im just hoping is is good enough.

6700k is under $300, so it's closer to a $50 difference actually. Plus, the 7700k runs a good bit hotter than the 6700k, for the same performance.

 

Define C isn't that small of a case. The 212 EVO is a terrible cooler choice, don't buy it. PCPP will tell you if there are issues with compatibility, or you can just check cooler size and case allowance. Cryorig H7 is a much better choice than the 212 EVO. Even a Be Quiet! Pure Rock(Slim), Cryorig M9i, or Raijintek Aidos for less than a 212 EVO, would be better choices. The Define C can accommodate coolers up to 168mm, the H7  is 145mm.

 

Yeah, I'm saying don't get a GTX 1080 because it's a waste of money and even a GTX 1070 is overkill. An RX 480/580 would be plenty for 1080p gaming. Get the 1070 if you want though.

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.98 @ NCIX US) 
Motherboard: ASRock X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($148.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($50.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.98 @ NCIX US) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($55.97 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($374.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Define C with Window ATX Mid Tower Case  ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: QNIX QX2710 Matte 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  ($219.00 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Total: $1488.26

 

You get the GTX 1070, and you have SLI support with this. You get a lovely 1440p monitor that you can overclock if you want, these overclock fairly easily to 96-120Hz from what I've seen. Still get your unnecessary 960 EVO, but you also have a 128GB SSD in there for OS, GTA V, and whatever other games you want on there that you can fit. At 1440p, the R5 1600 and i7-6700k/7700k are going to perform almost identically, you won't notice the difference between the two, but the R5 will be better for editing/rendering, and other CPU heavy tasks.

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