Posted April 19, 2017 I have 5 motherboard choices so please pick which one I should get. Don't consider price when deciding the best board. Also tell me what benefits are from each one. Thanks https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-KRAIT-GAMING.html#productSpecification-section https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-GAMING-PRO.html#productSpecification-section https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-SLI-PLUS.html#productSpecification-section https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-SLI.html#productSpecification-section https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-Z270-MARK-2/specifications/ This is my parts list. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QkPbD8 My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Whichever looks best to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Author Is there any real difference like in audio quality and internet speed? @deXxterlab97 My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Vandorlot said: Is there any real difference like in audio quality and internet speed? nothing worth mentioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Author How is the TUF Z270 MARK 2 ASUS better than the other ones. I see people voted for it and wonder why its better. @Avex @Princess Cadence @RGProductions My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Vandorlot said: How is the TUF Z270 MARK 2 ASUS better than the other ones. I see people voted for it and wonder why its better. @Avex @Princess Cadence @RGProductions I just like ASUS TUF boards. M1 MacBook Air 256/8 | iPhone 13 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Vandorlot said: How is the TUF Z270 MARK 2 ASUS better than the other ones. I see people voted for it and wonder why its better. @Avex @Princess Cadence @RGProductions I simply take Asus for motherboards over any other brand any day because if Asus does something right it is their motherboards... also I kinda hold prejudice over MSi for building only "okay-ish" hardware but marketing it for gamers so hardcore that the price you pay is more for the brand name and marketing than actual quality. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, Vandorlot said: I have 5 motherboard choices so please pick which one I should get. Don't consider price when deciding the best board. Also tell me what benefits are from each one. Thanks https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-KRAIT-GAMING.html#productSpecification-section https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-GAMING-PRO.html#productSpecification-section https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-SLI-PLUS.html#productSpecification-section https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z270-SLI.html#productSpecification-section https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-Z270-MARK-2/specifications/ This is my parts list. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QkPbD8 Have you bought any of this yet? Ryzen Ram Guide My Project Logs Iced Blood Temporal Snow Temporal Snow Ryzen Refresh CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5 Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200 GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Author Just now, stealth80 said: Have you bought any of this yet? No. My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Vandorlot said: No. Ok, what is your budget? Ryzen 5 is pretty much the go to chip now in that bracket Ryzen Ram Guide My Project Logs Iced Blood Temporal Snow Temporal Snow Ryzen Refresh CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5 Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200 GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 In my case it's just the result of a poor experience with a MSI motherboard and consistently positive experiences with ASUS hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Author Just now, stealth80 said: Ok, what is your budget? Ryzen 5 is pretty much the go to chip now in that bracket It's 1200. I'm currently making 2 plans for a PC, one Ryzen and one Kaby lake. Here's my Ryzen design https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2YqY7h Although Ryzen is a great all around chip with great performance in stuff like rendering, I'm mostly going to be doing gaming and not much streaming and rendering so I decided to try to make a plan with an intel chip. My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Vandorlot said: It's 1200. I'm currently making 2 plans for a PC, one Ryzen and one Kaby lake. Here's my Ryzen design https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2YqY7h Although Ryzen is a great all around chip with great performance in stuff like rendering, I'm mostly going to be doing gaming and not much streaming and rendering so I decided to try to make a plan with an intel chip. If you can't stretch to the 7700k, I would go Ryzen 5 - don't bother with the X, no point, just clock your CPU and you're off, I would add an AIO later down the line though PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.19 @ OutletPC)CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterAir Pro 4 66.7 CFM CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz)Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($133.99 @ Amazon)Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($142.55 @ NCIX US)Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Dual Series Video Card ($369.00 @ Amazon)Case: DIYPC D480-BK-Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.79 @ Newegg)Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($30.00)Total: $1178.49Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-19 19:27 EDT-0400 Ryzen Ram Guide My Project Logs Iced Blood Temporal Snow Temporal Snow Ryzen Refresh CPU - Ryzen 1700 @ 4Ghz Motherboard - Gigabyte AX370 Aorus Gaming 5 Ram - 16Gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200 GPU - Palit 1080GTX Gamerock Premium Storage - Samsung XP941 256GB, Crucial MX300 525GB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB PSU - Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W Case - INWIN 303 White Display - Asus PG278Q Gsync 144hz 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 All of the MSI boards are virtually identical other than the aesthetics (exact same VRM and features). Would not recommend the TUF board for poor audio setup and overclocking (seriously, MSI boards have deceptively bad VRM's, but just look at the one on the TUF). Because the TUF is the worst and the MSI's are all pretty much the same, just get the cheapest MSI board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, Nimrodor said: All of the MSI boards are virtually identical other than the aesthetics (exact same VRM and features). Would not recommend the TUF board for poor audio setup and overclocking (seriously, MSI boards have deceptively bad VRM's, but just look at the one on the TUF). Because the TUF is the worst and the MSI's are all pretty much the same, just get the cheapest MSI board. If the VRMs are bad on the MSI and TFU can you recommend another board? My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Vandorlot said: If the VRMs are bad on the MSI and TFU can you recommend another board? For overclocking and audio, the Gigabyte budget boards are quite good (UD3, K3, XP-SLI). MSI has good audio but okay VRM's, ASRock has decent VRM's with meh audio up until the Extreme4, Asus generally has good VRM's with poor audio on the budget side of the market. In other words, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128971 or https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 20, 2017 Yeah, whichever looks best t'you is the one to go with. In the high-end boards, they all end up performing similarly. Royal Rumble: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/N3v3r3nding_N3wb/saved/#view=NR9ycf "How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." -- Adolf Hitler "I am always ready to learn although I do not always like being taught." -- Winston Churchill "We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools." -- Martin Luther King Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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