Rate build please

[WambuCombu21]

I have a budget of 1217 and pushed it a bit more to 1235. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DhN7HN I plan to play games at 1440p at high - ultra settings. I don't do much video editing but i went with the Ryzen for three reason. 1. It's stock cooler is amazing. It has rgb lighting, it's quiet and most importantly it's not crappy. 2. When you overclock it, it's about the same as the i7 7700k. 3. It's good future-proofing. I wanted to build a pc which will last me long. The i7 is great for gaming but i'm willing to sacrifice performance a bit if it means it will last me longer, i mean 8 cores and 16 threads?! Not to mention the Ryzen 1700 does better on games which take advantage of the number of it's cores. That shows that it will probably perform better on newer games. It's still new so we have to wait for the updates and see if there is any improvement.

[Guest]

Looks good. 

[Matu20]

9/10 - no SSD.

 

Other than that, a very great build.

[Energycore]

Get the 6-core Ryzen. You won't notice a difference in games except Watch Dogs 2 maybe. And that'll open up room for other things. The Ryzen 5 1600 has the Wraith Spire too. Look, you can afford a 500GB SSD (not a hard drive, a full SSD)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($136.29 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($513.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: AMD Wraith Spire
Total: $1230.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 13:24 EDT-0400

[LienusLateTips]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r8ksJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r8ksJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($318.79 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($80.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  ($534.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.39 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Old 200GB HHD 
Other: AMD Wraith Spire 
Total: $1333.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 13:29 EDT-0400

[SteveGrabowski0]

3/10. The R7 cpus make no sense whatsoever for gaming and are a huge waste of money for it, and you can't overclock them to 7700k performance levels in gaming.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Now the R5 cpus are excellent value, but on that kind of budget there is no reason not to go i7.

[WambuCombu21]

2 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Now the R5 cpus are excellent value, but on that kind of budget there is no reason not to go i7.

What do you mean no reason to go for an i7 on that budget?

[SteveGrabowski0]

8 minutes ago, WambuCombu21 said:

What do you mean no reason to go for an i7 on that budget?

No reason not to go i7 on that budget. They're better gaming cpus.  And I don't think the R7 cpus will age better for gaming than the i7 because

 

(1) AAA games are targeted first and foremost toward the consoles (lowest common denominator, highest sales)

(2) The XBox One and PS4 (both regular and 4k mid-cycle revisions) use garbage octacore Jaguar cpus

(3) Those Jaguar CPUs have very low IPC and very low clockspeeds

(4) Hence, Intel's hyperthreading on the quadcore i7s can easily make up for that core count deficiency. It sounds nuts, but Digital Foundry has shown the quadcore Skylake i7 outperform the hexacore and even octacore Haswell i7 in gaming in everything but Crysis 3 in their tests, and even then the cpus traded blows.

(5) I don't imagine we'll see a new console generation until around 2020, which means we won't see games optimized for it until 2021 or 2022 probably.

 

For those reasons I think an i7 quadcore is the better buy strictly for gaming. Games have become well threaded enough that I wouldn't recommend an i5 on any budget over say $900 or so and I would recommend the R5 1600 over any unlocked i5. But short of an extremely early next generation console launch (that would give Sony and Microsoft tons of bad press so soon after launching the PS4 Pro and XBox Scorpio) I don't see games being written to take advantage of the extra physical cores of the R7 cpus. I don't see the R7 aging better than quadcore i7 does for gaming. Unless you're really worried about 5 years in the future. If you streamed or had a youtube channel you regularly produced videos for that would be a whole different scenario, but for straight-up gaming I'd go i7.

[WambuCombu21]

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

Get the 6-core Ryzen. You won't notice a difference in games except Watch Dogs 2 maybe. And that'll open up room for other things. The Ryzen 5 1600 has the Wraith Spire too. Look, you can afford a 500GB SSD (not a hard drive, a full SSD)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($136.29 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($513.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: AMD Wraith Spire
Total: $1230.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 13:24 EDT-0400

Is it worth it to get an 120mm aio and or case fans and 212 led evo? Also i don't need an ssd an 1tb hhd is enough for me.

[WambuCombu21]

16 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

No reason not to go i7 on that budget. They're better gaming cpus.  And I don't think the R7 cpus will age better for gaming than the i7 because

 

(1) AAA games are targeted first and foremost toward the consoles (lowest common denominator, highest sales)

(2) The XBox One and PS4 (both regular and 4k mid-cycle revisions) use garbage octacore Jaguar cpus

(3) Those Jaguar CPUs have very low IPC and very low clockspeeds

(4) Hence, Intel's hyperthreading on the quadcore i7s can easily make up for that core count deficiency. It sounds nuts, but Digital Foundry has shown the quadcore Skylake i7 outperform the hexacore and even octacore Haswell i7 in gaming in everything but Crysis 3 in their tests, and even then the cpus traded blows.

(5) I don't imagine we'll see a new console generation until around 2020, which means we won't see games optimized for it until 2021 or 2022 probably.

 

For those reasons I think an i7 quadcore is the better buy strictly for gaming. Games have become well threaded enough that I wouldn't recommend an i5 on any budget over say $900 or so and I would recommend the R5 1600 over any unlocked i5. But short of an extremely early next generation console launch (that would give Sony and Microsoft tons of bad press so soon after launching the PS4 Pro and XBox Scorpio) I don't see games being written to take advantage of the extra physical cores of the R7 cpus. I don't see the R7 aging better than quadcore i7 does for gaming. Unless you're really worried about 5 years in the future. If you streamed or had a youtube channel you regularly produced videos for that would be a whole different scenario, but for straight-up gaming I'd go i7.

So what is the more worth it combo? Gtx 1080 plus R7 1700 or Gtx 1070 I7 7700k. In terms of bang for the buck and longevity.

[SteveGrabowski0]

6 hours ago, WambuCombu21 said:

So what is the more worth it combo? Gtx 1080 plus R7 1700 or Gtx 1070 I7 7700k. In terms of bang for the buck and longevity.

Why not 1080 + 7700k? The i7-7700k is only about $20 more expensive than the R7 1700. If you want to save a few bucks get a locked i7-7700 and a B250 board with the GTX 1080. The quadcore turbo clock on the 7700 should be somewhere between 3.8 GHz and 4.0 GHz, which is what the chip will run at in any modern gaming load. I would guess the higher number based on how Intel has set their turbo boost clocks in the past (single core turbo is usually +200 MHz over quadcore turbo and single core turbo is 4.2 GHz on the i7-7700), but Intel hasn't published the official numbers for the 7th gen like they did 2nd-6th.

[WambuCombu21]

On 4/16/2017 at 1:05 AM, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Why not 1080 + 7700k? The i7-7700k is only about $20 more expensive than the R7 1700. If you want to save a few bucks get a locked i7-7700 and a B250 board with the GTX 1080. The quadcore turbo clock on the 7700 should be somewhere between 3.8 GHz and 4.0 GHz, which is what the chip will run at in any modern gaming load. I would guess the higher number based on how Intel has set their turbo boost clocks in the past (single core turbo is usually +200 MHz over quadcore turbo and single core turbo is 4.2 GHz on the i7-7700), but Intel hasn't published the official numbers for the 7th gen like they did 2nd-6th.

Well if i go with the GTX 1080 + i7 7700k. It makes my budget over 100 dollars. The reason i can fit the 1080 with the R7 1700 is because the 1700 has a free cooler, plus a b350 mobo is cheaper than a z270 mobo. 

[SteveGrabowski0]

52 minutes ago, WambuCombu21 said:

Well if i go with the GTX 1080 + i7 7700k. It makes my budget over 100 dollars. The reason i can fit the 1080 with the R7 1700 is because the 1700 has a free cooler, plus a b350 mobo is cheaper than a z270 mobo. 

You can find Z270 boards for $100, same price as B350. Your RAM kit is too expensive. Here is a killer 7700k + 1080 system in your budget:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270P-D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($100.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($107.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  ($479.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.89 @ OutletPC) 
Other: Old 200GB HHD 
Total: $1218.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-22 11:22 EDT-0400

 

So you get a better cpu, a 1080, better quality power supply, and a better cpu cooler at the price of slightly worse RAM.